A Case for the MWC to the BCS

[BigdaddyQH]

Without going into any great detail, here is a proposal to get the MountainWest Conference into the BCS. It is a two part proposal.

First, the MWC plays as many non-con BCS teams as most conferences, when you factor in the fact that they have 9 teams, and play a round robin Conference schedule. This past season, The MWC played 13 BCS teams in the regular season, going 5-8. Those teams included Oregon, Oklahoma, and Texas. They also played and defeated two Pac 10 teams in Bowl Games. A victory by TCU in the Fiesta Bowl will give the MWC two straight BCS Bowl victories, a 5-0 Bowl season, and two straight #2 ranked teams in the nation. The MWC should be part of the BCS.

Next. we are fully aware of the BCS's desire to get as many "at large" teams into their Bowl games. This is, after all, about money. To accomplish this, the BCS should add a 6th game. The game should be the Cotton Bowl, played in the largest and most modern facility in the nation, Jerryworld. The BCS can shift the Big 12's automatic berth to the Cotton Bowl, and give the Fiesta Bowl the MWC's automatic berth. This also opens up another "at-large" berth. With a maximum of two teams per conference in BCS games, this will give the other non-BCS Conferences a greater shot at a BCS game, if they earn it.

Any comments you guys have would be greatly appreciated. This proposal is going to be written up formally, by people who are a lot smarter than I am, and will be given to the BCS, the MWC, and to Jerry Jones, who is already behind this idea.

[MartinBlank]

I love the idea of the Cotton Bowl being involved Bigdaddy.

And I think you made a good case that their top 4 is every bit as tough as the Big East's top 4.

And that Cowboy stadium is the perfect venue for a bowl game.

The big problem I foresee is the current BCS conferences doing whatever they can to protect their self-interests.

In my perfect world the BCS would be torn apart and a playoff would be created. But that isn't going to happen anytime soon.

[Serbone]

Do not disagree completely with your opinion.
Certainly we all agree they should get BCS game this yr.
But, IMO, TCU would have 2 losses if they were in the SEC. 8-9 teams can knock them off in grueling schedule.
If they had to face FL-GA-SC-Tenn-LSU-Miss, etc, in a row, some on the road, they get knocked off.
In MWC, they can peak for a few games.
Some yrs, same would go if they were in Pac-10 or Big 12... though not necessarily this yr, both are down.
No way to know that for a fact.

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[daneblazer]

They usually have a team run the table anyway. They are just as good as the Big East. Give them a bowl spot. The Cotton or Peach Bowl has the goods to be the other BCS game.

[daneblazer]

and get rid of that ridiculous rule that only 2 teams from a conference can make the BCS

[Mac4Lyfe]

I agree to some extent but there's also some very bad teams in the MWC and the WAC. Colorado St, New Mexico, San Diego St., San Jose St, La Tech, Utah St, New mexico st in my opinion are not BCS level schools. If you give the WAC and MWC bids you now make every team in the conference a BCS school. Those programs are not in the same league, especially in terms of facilities. Why would a Texas or Ohio State travel to any of these schools? Most of their stadiums couldn't handle the opposing fanbase. These teams have to come to the big boys without a return trip guaranteed.

The top teams in both conferences either need to merge or join a BCS conference. Real simple.

[jsmithj88]

this is why this BSC crap is stupid
there needs to be a playoff

[S.K.M.]

MWC obviously has some good teams but they are too top heavy to be considered with the big boys. When you play in a BCS conference you have to play a tough game almost every week (unless you are playing the team in my avatar). In the mountain west, there are too many crappy teams that cannot be taken seriously. TCU or Boise only has a few games on their schedule that they have to take seriously. This is why we have been seeing more undefeated teams in these conferences like utah, hawaii, along with boise and tcu. If any of these teams played in a power conference i doubt they would be undefeated. Maybe TCU this year would have been.

[BiffTFinancial]

If it keeps the sport from being ruined with a playoff, then i suppose it's the lesser of two evils. The proposal makes more sense if Boise State moves to the MWC. This and, at worst, the addition of a plus-one playoff should shut up all the casual college football fans who are evidently so in love with egalitarianism that they must have a 16-team playoff that would ruin the regular season.

[MartinBlank]

If it keeps the sport from being ruined with a playoff, then i suppose it's the lesser of two evils. The proposal makes more sense if Boise State moves to the MWC. This and, at worst, the addition of a plus-one playoff should shut up all the casual college football fans who are evidently so in love with egalitarianism that they must have a 16-team playoff that would ruin the regular season.

But the regular season is already a joke.

You are allowed to lose early in the season but not late.

Which has resulted in teams having garbage non-conference schedules and 8 home games.

Texas beat Oklahoma in the regular season last year----and yet it was OU that was selected for the Big 12 title game and the BCS title game----rendering the regular season game absolutely meaningless.

[BigdaddyQH]

Thanks for you comments guys. Here is my take on some of them. First, you talk about these teams being undefeated in power conferences. Well, there is no way TCU could be undefeated in the SEC. I will be the first person to admit that. The Big 12? Rather doubtful, though Texas would be the only team standing in their way. The ACC? Quite possible. The Big East? Quite possible. The Big 10 and Pac 10, possible. But why do they have to be undefeated to play in a BCS Bowl. Ohio State and Iowa both lost two games, as did Oregon and Ga. Tech. So two of the 5 BCS Bowls had teams with two losses each in them. Why should the MWC be forced to go undefeated if the Big East is not?

Next, the argument that the MWC is top heavy. Let's see. The MWC has 9 teams, 5 of which were bowl eligable. That left 4 teams, two of which went 5-7. That is not a top heavy conference. Now the Pac 10 is a Top heavy conference, and USC is that team. This was a terrible year for USC, and yet they end up with the 2nd best record in the conference (9-4). So for the past 8 seasons, USC has 7 Championships and the 2nd best record in the year they miss. What about Ohio State in the Big 10. How many Big 10 Championships have they won recently?

As far as playing a tough game every week in a BCS Conference, let'slook at #2 Texas's schedule. Their non-con schedule consisted of 4 non-BCS teams, 3 of which were played at home. They also played Kansas, Baylor, and Colorado, 3 Big 12 teams that were not bowl eligable. Then add on Texas A&M, a bowl eligable team that finished 6-7. To me, that adds up to 8 soft games. It appears that Texas played more soft games than tough ones.

As far as the MWC having some bad schools, I agree. Every cnference has bad schools. Washington State and Washngton were terrible for the past tow years on the Pac 10. Indiana, Purdue, Michigan and Illinois have been a joke in the Big 10 the past two years. Every conference has them.

Now the second part of pur recommendation is probably just as important as the first. THe inclusion of the Cotton Bowl into the BCS. You are not going to replace any of the current sites, and I do not see how the BCS can miss out on such a huge payday that 100,000 fans would bring to the Cotton Bowl. It also opens up another At-large bid. It also get's Cingress off the BCS's tail. As much as I would like to see a playoff, an 8 team playoff actually eliminates teams from a big payday. Right now you have 10 teams in BCS Bowl games, not eight. Go to 16 teams, and you eliminate non-conference games,which bring in revenue to the host schools. Travelling would also be a nightmare for these teams. A playoff is just not in the cards, so we may as well make the best of what we have.

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[thechaoz]

If it keeps the sport from being ruined with a playoff, then i suppose it's the lesser of two evils. The proposal makes more sense if Boise State moves to the MWC. This and, at worst, the addition of a plus-one playoff should shut up all the casual college football fans who are evidently so in love with egalitarianism that they must have a 16-team playoff that would ruin the regular season.

I've never met one person who liked the BCS...not one. I'm sure you've heard all the arguments against a million times but I'll add this. Name one relevant (or not) sport in the world at any level that does not have some sort of playoff system. From baseball to Pro darts and all in between. I believe we have missed out on so many great games b/c of this system. For example, Florida despite a bad loss would easily get in to the championship game, while I don't believe Texas would have what it takes.

Granted Boise wouldn't make it to the big game most likely, but there is a chance I am certain they would win a playoff game or two and it would lead to some great moments with the david-goliath matchups as well as the big powerhouses battling each other as well. We are missing so much.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^I agree... We the fans are being cheated out of epic matchups. Even a plus 1 would add another game. Who could be against more football??? The society is blood thirsty in it's lust for football. ESPN is showing HS football for pete's sake. We are obsessed with this game. The more you show it, the more we watch. CFB is missing the boat. Schedule more games = make more money...