MWC vs Pac 10

[BigdaddyQH]

The next two bowl games feature teams from the Mountain West Conference against teams from the Pac 10 conference. BYU faces Oregon State tonight in what could be a soggy, and will be a cold Las Vegas. Tomorrow night Utah faces Cal in San Diego. According to Sagarin and his system, the Pac 10 should have no problem covering these games, but just what does his system fail to compute?

Here is the deal. Both BYU and Utah are looking to strengthen their arguments for joining the Pac 10. They are natural rivals, a condition that the Pac 10 has set for admission into the conference. Both teams have good athletic programs. What could these two teams do to convince the Pac 10 that they can play with any Pac 10 team? How about defeating them in back to back bowl games. BYU is 4-3 vs the Pac 10 in their last 4 years, with 3 of those games against UCLA. Utah is 2-3 against the Pac 10.

If you are debating as to which teams to wager on, you may want to remember this. Oregon State lost out on the Rose Bowl by losing their last game, for the 2nd time in two seasons. Cal has been very up and down. Yet both teams are 8-4, along with three other Pac 10 teams. A win here by both BYU and Utah makes a strong statement to the Pac 10, who will be forced to expand if the Big 10 adds a team.

[tcarn01]

Any win against UCLA in any bowl game in the last couple of years needs to be thown out of the equation. They are horrible..

[Seattle Slew]

Tough games, but I have to go against the Pac 10 teams. Even though Oregon State has won 5 straight bowl games, I'm with BYU on this one. OSU missing the Rose Bowl might lead to a letdown in this lesser game.

As for Utah, eight straight bowl wins and Cal is so up and down, I'm taking the better coached team, Utah.

[ezmoney]

the fav in BYU Bowl game 7-0, 5-2 ATS. Take Org St.

Also, Riley 7-1 ATS when team scores 28 or more.

1 TD per qtr=winner, ORG ST -2 and 1/2 !

Not sure about total, leaning UNDER.

[8badtuna]

osu -2.5

[porterkid69]

Trends for both conference, not that it has anything to do with this year. But here we go:

Pac 10
The Pac 10’s recent success in bowl games has caught the attention
of oddsmakers, who have established six of the seven league
representatives as favorites for their respective bowl games. The only
underdog is Stanford, a prohibitive one too, taking on Oklahoma in
the Sun Bowl. The Pac 10 boasts a 7-1 ATS record as a favorite over the
last two bowl seasons, although USC might have some trouble laying
the big wood to Boston College based upon recent data. Oregon will
look to extend this league’s success against the Big Ten in the Rose
Bowl. Here’s some Pac 10 bowl game trends to chew on:
- The Pac 10 has enjoyed two solid bowl game seasons in a row, going
9-2 SU & ATS (82%) combined in ’07 & ’08, including 7-1 ATS (88%) as
a favorite.
- As a bowl game underdog, the Pac 10 has really produced 12-13
SU & 20-5 ATS (80%) since ’97. When getting 5.5-points or more, the
record is an incredible 13-1 ATS (93%) since ’96.
- Laying big points is not something you’ll want to do with Pac 10
teams over the net few weeks. As favorite of more than a TD, Pac 10
teams are just 4-14 ATS (22%) over their L22 opportunities.
- The Pac 10 has swept the L3 games ATS against non-BCS, or lesser,
conferences, slowing a trend that saw them go 2-13 ATS in the
previous 15. The L12 games of this variety have been surprisingly lowscoring
as well, 9-3 UNDER in the L12.
- Simply put, the Pac 10 dominates the Big Ten in bowl games, 14-7
SU & 17-3-1 ATS (85%) dating back to ’96, including a current streak of
eight straight ATS wins.
- The Pac 10 has not covered a bowl game pointspread vs. the
WAC since prior to ’92, owning a record of 4-6 SU & 0-9 ATS (0%).
Unfortunately, the last matchup was ’06.

Mountain West
For the second straight season, TCU is the only one of five Mountain
West Conference bowl teams that is favored. That is actually good
news in one respect however, as the Horned Frogs are representing
the league in the Fiesta Bowl in January, sporting an undefeated
record. Wyoming appears to be in a good spread covering spot vs.
Fresno State based upon the MWC’s record as a large underdog, while
that game and the TCU-Boise State showdown are expected to be
lower scoring tilts.
- The Mountain West has been one of the more consistent performing
bowl teams this decade, going 19-14 ATS (58%) overall.
- The MWC defenses have stepped up in bowl games of late, holding
nine of their L14 opponents to 20 points or less, resulting in 10
UNDER’s (71%). As a bowl game favorite, Mountain West teams can
really be counted on to go UNDER the total, 11-2 (85%) since ’02.
- As underdogs of a TD or more in bowl games, Mountain West teams
have covered six straight games (100%) and are a money-making 3-3
SU in those games.
- In expected lower scoring bowl games, or those with posted totals
of less than 47, Mountain West teams have been very successful, 8-2
SU & ATS (80%).

Mountain West
For the second straight season, TCU is the only one of five Mountain
West Conference bowl teams that is favored. That is actually good
news in one respect however, as the Horned Frogs are representing
the league in the Fiesta Bowl in January, sporting an undefeated
record. Wyoming appears to be in a good spread covering spot vs.
Fresno State based upon the MWC’s record as a large underdog, while
that game and the TCU-Boise State showdown are expected to be
lower scoring tilts.
- The Mountain West has been one of the more consistent performing
bowl teams this decade, going 19-14 ATS (58%) overall.
- The MWC defenses have stepped up in bowl games of late, holding
nine of their L14 opponents to 20 points or less, resulting in 10
UNDER’s (71%). As a bowl game favorite, Mountain West teams can
really be counted on to go UNDER the total, 11-2 (85%) since ’02.
- As underdogs of a TD or more in bowl games, Mountain West teams
have covered six straight games (100%) and are a money-making 3-3
SU in those games.
- In expected lower scoring bowl games, or those with posted totals
of less than 47, Mountain West teams have been very successful, 8-2
SU & ATS (80%).

[porterkid69]

[quote=porterkid69;2797067]Trends for both conference, not that it has anything to do with this year. But here we go:

Pac 10
The Pac 10’s recent success in bowl games has caught the attention
of oddsmakers, who have established six of the seven league
representatives as favorites for their respective bowl games. The only
underdog is Stanford, a prohibitive one too, taking on Oklahoma in
the Sun Bowl. The Pac 10 boasts a 7-1 ATS record as a favorite over the
last two bowl seasons, although USC might have some trouble laying
the big wood to Boston College based upon recent data. Oregon will
look to extend this league’s success against the Big Ten in the Rose
Bowl. Here’s some Pac 10 bowl game trends to chew on:
- The Pac 10 has enjoyed two solid bowl game seasons in a row, going
9-2 SU & ATS (82%) combined in ’07 & ’08, including 7-1 ATS (88%) as
a favorite.
- As a bowl game underdog, the Pac 10 has really produced 12-13
SU & 20-5 ATS (80%) since ’97. When getting 5.5-points or more, the
record is an incredible 13-1 ATS (93%) since ’96.
- Laying big points is not something you’ll want to do with Pac 10
teams over the net few weeks. As favorite of more than a TD, Pac 10
teams are just 4-14 ATS (22%) over their L22 opportunities.
- The Pac 10 has swept the L3 games ATS against non-BCS, or lesser,
conferences, slowing a trend that saw them go 2-13 ATS in the
previous 15. The L12 games of this variety have been surprisingly lowscoring
as well, 9-3 UNDER in the L12.
- Simply put, the Pac 10 dominates the Big Ten in bowl games, 14-7
SU & 17-3-1 ATS (85%) dating back to ’96, including a current streak of
eight straight ATS wins.
- The Pac 10 has not covered a bowl game pointspread vs. the
WAC since prior to ’92, owning a record of 4-6 SU & 0-9 ATS (0%).
Unfortunately, the last matchup was ’06.

Mountain West
For the second straight season, TCU is the only one of five Mountain
West Conference bowl teams that is favored. That is actually good
news in one respect however, as the Horned Frogs are representing
the league in the Fiesta Bowl in January, sporting an undefeated
record. Wyoming appears to be in a good spread covering spot vs.
Fresno State based upon the MWC’s record as a large underdog, while
that game and the TCU-Boise State showdown are expected to be
lower scoring tilts.
- The Mountain West has been one of the more consistent performing
bowl teams this decade, going 19-14 ATS (58%) overall.
- The MWC defenses have stepped up in bowl games of late, holding
nine of their L14 opponents to 20 points or less, resulting in 10
UNDER’s (71%). As a bowl game favorite, Mountain West teams can
really be counted on to go UNDER the total, 11-2 (85%) since ’02.
- As underdogs of a TD or more in bowl games, Mountain West teams
have covered six straight games (100%) and are a money-making 3-3
SU in those games.
- In expected lower scoring bowl games, or those with posted totals
of less than 47, Mountain West teams have been very successful, 8-2
SU & ATS (80%).




Tuesday, December 22nd
LAS VEGAS BOWL - (207) BYU vs. (208) OREGON ST [-2, 60.5]: The Las
Vegas Bowl has seen the favored team win but fail to cover in four of the
11 lined games. In fact, overall, the underdog owns a 6-4-1 ATS edge in that
span. This bowl series has also proven to be a low-scoring one as well, as the
UNDER is 8-3 since ’98 with the losing team scoring just 15.4 PPG. BYU could
make Las Vegas its second home, as it is appearing in this game for the fifth
straight time, having gone 2-2 SU & ATS

[booya]

Mnt west playz for me.