Boise State @ Tulsa Early thoughts...

iLogan · 10-13-09, 11:06 PM

Also seen 'em play some mediocre offense, which scares me from the over, but I'm leaning that way...

renojoe · 10-13-09, 11:08 PM

yeah over ok to me.... or is it? let's take a careful look.....

Tulsa was recently shut down and out by Oklahoma.... that killed an expected over. So I think Boise is the play.... not so fast. Boise is ranked #5 ..... and expectations are high, but ... i am leaning towards...... Tulsa and take the points (+10).... we'll see how i feel about this tommorow... this is just my early thoughts.... good night

RICHIE801 · 10-13-09, 11:13 PM

Well if I had to pick a side I would take Tulsa +10, I only saw them (Boise) play mediocre offense against UC Davis though, tell me they werent a little bored with that match-up, they also struggled in the red zone that particular day.

RICHIE801 · 10-13-09, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by iLogan

Also seen 'em play some mediocre offense, which scares me from the over, but I'm leaning that way...

I've seen Tulsa play mediocre offense...Don't think that will be the case at home though

twincities77 · 10-13-09, 11:20 PM

This game is tough to cap as Boise St's looked so good, but their SoS is really weak. Same goes for Tulsa.

iLogan · 10-13-09, 11:22 PM

Yeah, I think this smells shootout. Already booked Boise St to cover though...

RICHIE801 · 10-13-09, 11:26 PM

I mean Boise St is 5th in the nation in scoring, Tulsa no slouch at 26th... these teams average a combined 72+ points a game I believe...Shit they avg. 73 pts a game on the dot combined.

Ralphie1412 · 10-13-09, 11:26 PM

Who has Tulsa played? Sam Houston? They played oklahoma and you saw what happened.

RICHIE801 · 10-13-09, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by Ralphie1412

Who has Tulsa played? Sam Houston? They played oklahoma and you saw what happened.

A shutout. I am by no means saying Tulsa is a great team I just think they can muster up 24-28 pts at home against Boise. I think Boise State has the potential to blow them out at home scoring any from 31-35 even in the 40's maybe. I hate takin WAC teams on the road as 2 score favorites I don't care who they are playin. I want to see more of where the line for Boise is too...

RICHIE801 · 10-13-09, 11:48 PM

I'm gonna Book Boise St/Tulsa over 52 (-130) right now kinda light and watch these lines for tomorrow.

Odraca · 10-13-09, 11:51 PM

i like the team total for boise to be way over, i dont know what it is but ill take it, boise defense is for real

boise covers easily in a route, 48-17

GatorFan · 10-13-09, 11:51 PM

leaning over but have to wait to see if the weather is good enough

GatorFan · 10-13-09, 11:58 PM

Tulsa could be suck on the road, but when they playing at home, they will play their heart out....leaning Boise st. but I can not go against Tulsa at home

Shortstop · 10-14-09, 12:38 AM

I like the Under 53.

There will be a lot of running the ball and a couple of turnovers in the Red Zone. I'm seeing a 28-21 type of game.

stocker08 · 10-14-09, 12:38 AM

I do not believe this game will be an asswhooping but like others have said, getting shut out by oklahoma does not bode well for tulsa. I have my bet on Boise state, probably wont touch the o/u.

ImmaBammer12 · 10-14-09, 12:52 AM

Yeah, Tulsa may be leading their division of C-USA but I mean look at what it's made up of too. Tulsa can't hang with ranked, fully rounded opponents like Oklahoma and especially Boise St. 10 is a gift if my opinion. I see 30 being hung on Tulsa. Just my opinion and that's not be worth much this season either.

Stoic · 10-14-09, 03:04 AM

Maybe, maybe not

*Boise is the play here, here's my thoughts why:
1. The line easily should have opened at -14, I believe it opened low because Boise
wasn't as dominate as they should have been against Davis, but keep in mind Boise probably took Davis lightly plus Peterson was playing his college coach probably had a little sympathy.
2. Tulsa hasn't played a worthy opponent besides OU who rolled them with Jones at QB not Bradford (not that Jones is terrible but he's not bradford)
3. Tulsa's QB GJ Kinne is a first year starter (transfer from texas) against OU he had 106 yd's, 0 td's, and 2 int's, besides that game his stats are good but he still only has 2 passing td's and really hasn't played anybody significant
4. If your worried about Boise on the road they went into Fresno State which is an extremely hostile environment, plus the 3rd ranked rushing team in the country and bet them by 17
5. I know Boise's D is suspect but they're not asked to shut teams out just try and hold them while there offense rolls, and lets face it in a shoot out Tulsa simply wont be able to keep up with Boise.
6. Some Stats: Boise 5th ranked offense, Tulsa 25th
Boise 13th ranked defense, Tulsa 21st
Boise 25th special teams, Tulsa 60th
Boise is better in every aspect of the game.
7. If your worried about weather it is supposed to rain but the stadium is fieldturf so slippery but not sloppy

So i've already locked it in at -10 (-8.5 now over 53) but if your still on the bubble may I suggest that you take the spread and the over in a 6 pt. teaser. You'll get Boise -2.5 and O 47 at -110 same as a straight bet. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK!

**I forgot to mention that this is Boise's last somewhat strong opponent (besides Nevada the WAC is awful)
and since they didn't absolutely roll Davis they need to beat Tulsa soundly and they know it to stay in the top 5**

Shortstop · 10-14-09, 04:14 AM

Nice info and a good cap Stoic, but if you and many others that I've seen here are expecting a "shootout" why is the line only 53? I may be wrong, but I love the Under here. Good luck either way.

pags11 · 10-14-09, 04:21 AM

as much as I like a good home dog and believe in Todd Graham I can't bring myself to bet against Chris Peterson and company...

aekdb1130 · 10-14-09, 06:54 AM

Tulsa has allowed zero rushing TDs this season... That right, ZERO.. including the OU game. I was at that game and Tulsa easily could be up 21-17 by half-time. the homefield advantage in norman is rediculous and remember OU beat #2 texas tech at home 65-21 last year. Tulsa had 3 starting O-linemen injured prior to the OU game and had to play a true freshmen, a juco transfer and a walkon.. The oline should be in better shape for the Boise game. Tulsa went to Rice and beat them 21-10 during a heavy downpour while houston lost to UTEP that same weekend. The Tulsa defense this year is alot better than most people think.

The recuiting for Tulsa and Boise state are on the same level and Tulsa could be the BCS buster within two years.

aekdb1130 · 10-14-09, 07:22 AM

one more thing, 4-6 boise state starters COULD be sick with the swine flu, and Tulsa's starting QB GJ kinne MIGHT be a little under the weather too.

This game is basically a coin-flip and Tulsa's first true home game of the season.

MSUSpartan32 · 10-14-09, 07:53 AM

Tulsa +9.5 for one unit for me tonight.

frpm00 · 10-14-09, 08:09 AM

I locked Boise in @ -10.5. If Boise has any shot and i mean its prob 500-1 to begin with to have any shot if the cards fall right for them to be in the National Championship Game they got to take care of business against teams like this. I think they will handle Tulsa high powered Offense tonight and still manage to cover the spread handily i'm looking @ 45-24 final.

aekdb1130 · 10-14-09, 08:10 AM

I'll be at the game tonight and $20 on Tulsa moneyline for entertainment. There should be a light drizzle on and off during the game.

snipeshow23 · 10-14-09, 08:17 AM

supposed to be a 30-40% chance of rain from 11 until 9 tonight in tulsa...

blackbeSSt · 10-14-09, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by snipeshow23

supposed to be a 30-40% chance of rain from 11 until 9 tonight in tulsa...

yup thats why im teasing and taking the under. the rain screwed me last night.

aekdb1130 · 10-14-09, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by blackbeSSt

yup thats why im teasing and taking the under. the rain screwed me last night.

I live in Tulsa and the rain will be nowhere close to as of ASU-ULM last night. The weather should have minimal effect on the outcome of this game.

TheCommish · 10-14-09, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by aekdb1130

I live in Tulsa and the rain will be nowhere close to as of ASU-ULM last night. The weather should have minimal effect on the outcome of this game.

Thanks. that's good to know.

Mac4Lyfe · 10-14-09, 10:19 AM

Folks - don't get too hyped up over rain and the under. Just because the under hit 2 weekday games in a row doesn't mean you need to be Willie the Weatherman. You can get killed betting on weather.

BigdaddyQH · 10-14-09, 10:25 AM

Boise is down to 8.5 now, which is a great value. This is it for Boise. Win, and they are in a BCS game, because there is absolutely no one left on their schedule to challenge them. Lose, and they are out. Boise did beat a pretty good Oregon team. Tulsa got destroyed by OU minus Sam Bradford. I think that Boise wins this game going away. The WAC is much better than CUSA as a whole.

twincities77 · 10-14-09, 10:41 AM

Boise St. just jumped back up to 9.5

investor · 10-14-09, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

Boise is down to 8.5 now, which is a great value. This is it for Boise. Win, and they are in a BCS game, because there is absolutely no one left on their schedule to challenge them. Lose, and they are out. Boise did beat a pretty good Oregon team. Tulsa got destroyed by OU minus Sam Bradford. I think that Boise wins this game going away. The WAC is much better than CUSA as a whole.

See, it's even dropped to 8.5 although on my site it still says 9. It's moved a full point in Tulsa's Favor. it opened at 10, and now 8.5. That means that 23% of the people betting on Tulsa moved it 1.5 points. Wow, so that 23% heavily out weighs the 77% on Boise State.

So this is an easy play for me. I will follow the big betters who are taking boise state and i will stay away from the public on this one.

Always watch out for reverse line movements.... it's an easy way to see where the big money is going.

Good luck

BigdaddyQH · 10-14-09, 10:49 AM

I think you had better rethink your posts. Don't you mean go on Tulsa? If 23% of the bettors outweigh's 77%, I would think that the big bettors are on Tulsa. I can also tell you that by game time, the line will be back up to 10 or more.

Boddhissatva · 10-14-09, 10:55 AM

I'm taking Boise State.

Tulsa appears to have a very dynamic offense...but when faced against Oklahoma...we saw what happened..

There are two questions to answer here.

Can Boise shut down the Tulsa offense similar to what Oklahoma did?

and/or

Can Tulsa grind it out in a firefight way into the fourth quarter? (something Fresno St couldn't do.