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  • Jca6000
    SBR High Roller
    • 12-05-08
    • 124

    #1
    Sure College Football Bet Of The Year
    I currently attend Vanderbilt, and I am the biggest University of Maryland fan on the planet so I follow all ACC teams and SEC teams very very carefully. To basically put it Vanderbilt stands no chance. Boston College -3 against Vanderbilt. Boston College was in the ACC championship game and has won 4/5 last games including wins at Florida State, agaisnt Maryland and at Wake Forest. Vanderbilt started 5-0 but has lost 6 of its last 7 including getting dominated by Wake Forest, losing to Tennessee and Duke. Vanderbilts offense has been un existent since about week 4 (except one exception) and is showing no signs of improvement, Vanderbilt is way out of their league in this game and will just get out powered by Boston Colleges o-line and Vanderbilt doesn't have a chance against BC's defense. Hell Vanderbilt only put up 7 on Duke 10 on wake and 10 on Tennessee. Basically to sum it up Vanderbilt lost to two lower tier teams in the ACC already this year including Duke who has only won 2 of their last 40 conference football games. BC has been a top tier team in the ACC for several years, Vanderbilt stands no chance, If they cant beat a team in a conference who's winning percentage is 5% over the last 5 years, how are they going to compete with one of the top 2 teams in that same conference?

    Yes BC's QB is injured but he was not that great, and BC did beat Maryland with him, and yes Maryland has had its up and downs this year but they played a very well game against Boston College in which Maryland lost, and as we all know when Maryland actually plays well they rarely lose. BC's back up QB will be just as good as Crane he just has not got the reps and practice that he needs BUT this bowl game is not until the very end of the month, I believe new years eve, being able to work 1 on 1 with this QB for so long will prove very positive for the eagles. The people picking these lines I think are relying to heavily on the game being played in Nashville. I think they have forgotten that we are a SMALL PRIVATE school FULL of kids who do NOT care about football. We cant even fill a half ass student section corner of the stadium for the UF game. In fact every time we play UF or LSU or any other big SEC schools there are MORE fans of the apposing team at our own stadium than our own fans. I know ESPN made it seem like the town embraced Vanderbilt, but the fact is people in Nashville dont care about Vanderbilt most are long time UT fans. Vanderbilts offense has been DEAD except for the kentucky game since week 5. Wake Forest dominated us, the score doesnt seem too too bad but the problem is there is no flow to our offense, we cant make simple plays or have any sustained drives. We cant decide on a QB as both have been shaky all year and against Wake we decided hell lets let our third string QB give it a go. I man honestly we had some early momentum and got lucky to get to go to 5-0 and sneak out one more win to get a bowl game. We lost to DUKE at home. The ****ing Duke Blue Devils. Not to mention BC has WON their last 8 bowl games. We are playing a team who generally plays well in bowl games, is getting hot at the right part of the season and we are falling apart by the seems. Everyone is saying ohh Vandy will be so excited its their first bowl game in 25 years, ****ing excited? Yeah so excited we couldnt even get our 6th win to put us in a bowl against DUKE. Vandy averaged just 11.5 points in six losses in its final seven games. We arent even sure what quarterback we will use, Mackenzi Adams, Larry Smith or Chris Nickson. Maybe we should be favored we get to play 3 different Quarter Backs
    And you can say yes BC's QB Dominique Davis had a horrible game against Va tech, but va tech has a good defense and seems to always show up for the ACC champ game. I mean Vanderbilts D is nothing compared to Va tech's D. BC is also just much bigger and powerful in the trenches. Dominique Davis also played a key role in BC's win over Wake Forest at Wake.

    Whats the best cure for Vandys ailing offense?
    Quarterback shuffle: Missing from practice was quarterback Mackenzi Adams, who is hobbled by a bursa sac injury in his knee and a chest injury. Adams split time with Chris Nickson against Wake Forest before redshirt freshman Larry Smith was called into action to finish the game after Nickson also went down with a shoulder injury.

    "We're trying to monitor Mackenzi to see if he's going to be ready to go,'' Johnson said.

    The game will be Boston College 24-10, and it will be another year of Vandy football, we caught a lucky break or two early on in order tog et 6 wins, but the big step is getting to a bowl not winning a bowl, thats far away in our program.

    So the Lock is Boston College -3.5 against Vandy
    I bought 1/2 point and put $2,000 on it. Figured it was worth about a $200 difference for that half a point on a $2,000 bet
  • jackpot269
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-24-07
    • 12827

    #2
    I agree that B.C. is the play here and im an sec homer ill be playing this one heavy also but not as heavy as you, that being said,I still can not say that vandy has no chance, if this were true no need to tee it up the books could go ahead and pay us now. This game -3.5 to 4 right now I think it will move up more I figured it at -7.5 to 8. I think this game on B.C. has great value but not a lock how much would you have put on USC @ pick em earlier in the year against Oregon St. hell i took em and laid the points I would have bet the house on them straight up and now would be homeless!!! Glad it was not @ a pick this way I just lost $250.00
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    • Jca6000
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-05-08
      • 124

      #3
      Yeah nothing is ever a sure bet, but if it feels like a sure bet for a month and then doesnt feel like a sure bet at half time then hell it felt pretty damn good for a month lol I jumped on the line at -3.5 and bought a point, I think Vandys chances of winning are probably equal to Boise St beating Oklahoma in a BCS bowl game
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      • irishdude
        SBR High Roller
        • 11-05-08
        • 103

        #4
        yes very good information
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        • cruzanbeast
          SBR High Roller
          • 11-29-08
          • 102

          #5
          Jca, great info. I'm an old screaming eagle alum and was going to stay away, but you have peeked my interest. What are your thoughts on the over 41.
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          • Jca6000
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-05-08
            • 124

            #6
            I usually dont mess with over and unders but considering vandy has no flow to their offense and BC;s defense is better than Tennessee, dukes, and wakes I couldnt see vandy scoring more than 14-17 points most likely scoring closer to 10. Yes vandy did score alot on Kentucky but kentucky came out dead and kept turning over the ball. I would honestly think it would be on the under. But the problem is watching vanderbilt play is the most frustrating thing in the world, vandy is the team who you know you think hey finally were getting some momentum then they drop the snap, or fumble, or throw a stupid interception, I think I lose years on my life just watching vanderbilt play sometime. honestly I think BC will put up 21-24 points I dont many more cause vandys defense isnt horrible but it certainly isnt that great but since QB situation is in the air for both teams I would have to say its the under in a 24-10 game, the fact that 27-14 ties the under makes me think there is no way in hell its over.
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            • Jca6000
              SBR High Roller
              • 12-05-08
              • 124

              #7
              In their last 8 games Vandy has scored more than 17 once, and I promise you BC's Defense is up there among the top few best defenses in that 8 game stretch. What I would most worry about is BC wanting to go out of the year with a bang. Being up 21-10 going into the forth and scoring midway through 28-10 to seal it, then things kinda opening up and one team gets another big play, I could see BC taking the lid off the game and winning big but since you have to think vandy isnt going to score more than 14, it comes down to do you put BC over or under 27?
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              • Jca6000
                SBR High Roller
                • 12-05-08
                • 124

                #8
                I would just take BC -4, I actually took BC -6 when they played Maryland, and it was the worst feeling in my life haha I have only ever bet against maryland once in my life and that was it, I have faith in BC, they are overall one of the most talented teams in the ACC especially when it comes to power and size, Vandy got over hyped because they beat an over rated Auburn team by a point. Terps will win the ACC next year though :P. Everyones back, and im sure it will be like 10-1 for them to win ACC
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                • The Seer
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-29-07
                  • 10641

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jca6000
                  BC;s defense is better than Tennessee, dukes, and wakes I couldnt see vandy scoring over.
                  I would not say BCs defense is any better than Wake's or Vandy's by any means.
                  ppg total yds
                  Wake 18.3 300.3
                  Vandy 20.1 318.7
                  BC 18.5 273.4

                  Plus, it doesn't matter as much whether the fans are excited as the players in the game. The fans aren't on the field. Do u think the BC fans will be pumped to play Vandy? We are looking at a Vandy team that has never been in a bowl and a disappointed BC team that just blew a shot at the conference title and a BCS bowl. BC is settling here. I'm taking the more excited team here that plays in a tougher conference with the points as I feel they will win straight up.
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                  • teaserpleaser
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-14-08
                    • 26016

                    #10
                    Vandy's read option will have trouble picking up chunks against B.C. ... Brace and BJ Raji at up the middle going to be hard for vandy to run the ball.
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                    • M.W.
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-07-08
                      • 1668

                      #11
                      I'm taking the more excited team here that plays in a tougher conference with the points as I feel they will win straight up.
                      I agree with the excitement aspect, but the ACC is the better conference this year. Vandy already lost to two teams from the bottom half of the conference. Still, I like Vandy here because of the motivational edge.
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                      • Cougar Bait
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                        • 10-04-07
                        • 18282

                        #12
                        B.C. giving up almost 50 yards less a game? Hmmm. I think that points to a better defense. Good point on the conference though...I'll have to look more into it, but my initial lean is B.C. here.
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                        • Jca6000
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 12-05-08
                          • 124

                          #13
                          Motivation?

                          We start 5-0 and our motivation leads us to finish the year losing 6/7?

                          Motivation? We need one more win to be bowl eligible and cant beat Duke??

                          Vandy has already lost to Duke and was dominated by Wake Forest, how about BC's defense compared to Duke and tennessee? Vandy is only averaging just over 10 points in their 6 losses and those include to teams like Duke, Tennessee and Wake Forest. Haha Tennessee lost to Wyoming, WYOMING lost to a team whos 1-7 in the MWC.

                          Throw out Alabama and Florida which are the two best SEC teams and the ACC has dominated straight up destroyed the SEC.
                          I threw out looking at Alabama and Florida because no team in the ACC compares to them and theres no 3rd team in the SEC close to them.
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                          • The Seer
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-29-07
                            • 10641

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jca6000
                            We start 5-0 and our motivation leads us to finish the year losing 6/7?

                            Motivation? We need one more win to be bowl eligible and cant beat Duke??

                            Vandy has already lost to Duke and was dominated by Wake Forest, how about BC's defense compared to Duke and tennessee? Vandy is only averaging just over 10 points in their 6 losses and those include to teams like Duke, Tennessee and Wake Forest. Haha Tennessee lost to Wyoming, WYOMING lost to a team whos 1-7 in the MWC.

                            Throw out Alabama and Florida which are the two best SEC teams and the ACC has dominated straight up destroyed the SEC.
                            I threw out looking at Alabama and Florida because no team in the ACC compares to them and theres no 3rd team in the SEC close to them.
                            The schedule caught up with Vandy. They got beat up on by SEC teams and don't have much depth. That is the main difference between Vandy and most schools. Depth won't be a factor after the layoff. Laugh if you want but Tennessee's Defense IS better than BC's. These stats INCLUDE FL, GA, and AL games too which is much better than anybody BC played. I'm saying Vandy will be more motivated than BC. We'll just see what we'll see.

                            pts yds
                            Tennessee....16.8 263.5
                            Boston C......18.5 273.4

                            It's not like there is gonna be a ton of points scored here. BCs offense is pathetic too. Vandy may only need to score 16 to cover.
                            Last edited by The Seer; 12-15-08, 01:27 AM.
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                            • The Seer
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-29-07
                              • 10641

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cougar Bait
                              B.C. giving up almost 50 yards less a game? Hmmm. I think that points to a better defense. Good point on the conference though...I'll have to look more into it, but my initial lean is B.C. here.
                              The scoreboard doesn't display yds given up. Vandy gives up less than 2 points more.
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                              • insmgg
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 12-01-08
                                • 46

                                #16
                                BC looks better on paper, but did you see them in their most recent game against Virginia Tech? BC looked AWFUL. Tech's running back ran all over them easily, and the Tech quarterback consistently ran for first downs. BC's replacement QB, Dominique Davis, played like total crap. Couldn't make a completion if his life depended on it. There's no way I'm trusting Davis in another game.

                                Go with Vandy
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                                • Jca6000
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 12-05-08
                                  • 124

                                  #17
                                  ive watched every game by every team this year, I also go to vandy and talk with several players on a regular basis, its a joke to take vandy but if you want to lose money go with vandy, ive posted my opinion, and we will see who all made money on new years
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                                  • Jca6000
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 12-05-08
                                    • 124

                                    #18
                                    You can look at all the BS averages on yards and points but it doesnt say shit, alot of that is reflective of how a team plays, a couple years ago Maryland dominated Purdue in the champs sports bowl and maryland was picked to get their ass kicked cause they were rated almost dead last in offense yet somehow they won 7 or 8 games that year, i remember South Carolina being the so called 5th best defense in college football and it was what 28-0 at the end of the first quarter in the maryland game? and then clemson racked up 31 against them. and if anyone knows clemson thats the most points they have scored all year in any real game, Its alot easier to hold teams to less points when your already getting your ass kicked, just because vandy loses 21-10, 17-7, 10-7, against shit teams doesnt make their defense amazing. and I know you think tennessee had a tough schedule but look at the non existence offensive teams they played , UCLA, Wyoming (whos ****ing 1-7 in the MVC), UAB, Mississippi state, Vandy, Northerin illinois, and auburn. Tennessee really played 4 teams this year that can even score and all of those put up 30 on tennessee. In terms of numbers of good teams BC had a tougher schedule.
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                                    • Boy Jeenyus
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 08-29-08
                                      • 159

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Jca6000
                                      But the problem is watching vanderbilt play is the most frustrating thing in the world, vandy is the team who you know you think hey finally were getting some momentum then they drop the snap, or fumble, or throw a stupid interception, I think I lose years on my life just watching vanderbilt play sometime.

                                      From a Vandy alum to a future Vandy alum: I'm afraid you are dead-on in your analysis. Regarding your quote above: Welcome to the world of Vandy football!

                                      I was a senior in HS in 1982 and the Dores had just put up an 8-3 season. I remember thinking "I'm going to attend a college with a good football program!" The next year they were 2-9. My Soph year they started out 4-0, broke into the top 20 and promptly lost at home to a winless Tulane en route to a 1-6 finish and a nationwide scandal on steriod distribution. We all know what has happened in the TWENTY-SIX year's since 82.

                                      I also agree with your analysis that the SEC is down this year. Florida & Bama are good, but the league just isn't as deep as normal. That allowed two weak teams (Vandy & UK) to get bowl eligible. Vandy did have a good second half against SoCar and got some lucky plays to beat Ole Miss, but that was long ago and certainly nothing to hang your hat on if you wanted to justify a Vandy bet here. I was at the VU/UK game in Lexington. You did mention that they were able to score some points, but they were beneficiaries of THREE roughing the kicker calls sustaining drives that led to points. At the end they needed a fortuitious roughing the passer call to nullify a UK int and preserve their win.
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                                      • The Seer
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                                        • 10-29-07
                                        • 10641

                                        #20
                                        I'm just saying after 20 years experience this is no sure bet. I think if it was so easy then the line wouldn't be 3.5 or 4 point line.
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                                        • 10mDive08
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 12-12-08
                                          • 79

                                          #21
                                          I'll take my chances with my school. Vandy is playing with emotion. We're 6 of 8 in underdog situations. Let's make it 7 of 9!
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                                          • Jca6000
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 12-05-08
                                            • 124

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Boy Jeenyus
                                            From a Vandy alum to a future Vandy alum: I'm afraid you are dead-on in your analysis. Regarding your quote above: Welcome to the world of Vandy football!

                                            I was a senior in HS in 1982 and the Dores had just put up an 8-3 season. I remember thinking "I'm going to attend a college with a good football program!" The next year they were 2-9. My Soph year they started out 4-0, broke into the top 20 and promptly lost at home to a winless Tulane en route to a 1-6 finish and a nationwide scandal on steriod distribution. We all know what has happened in the TWENTY-SIX year's since 82.

                                            I also agree with your analysis that the SEC is down this year. Florida & Bama are good, but the league just isn't as deep as normal. That allowed two weak teams (Vandy & UK) to get bowl eligible. Vandy did have a good second half against SoCar and got some lucky plays to beat Ole Miss, but that was long ago and certainly nothing to hang your hat on if you wanted to justify a Vandy bet here. I was at the VU/UK game in Lexington. You did mention that they were able to score some points, but they were beneficiaries of THREE roughing the kicker calls sustaining drives that led to points. At the end they needed a fortuitious roughing the passer call to nullify a UK int and preserve their win.


                                            Haha awesome. Well I will be at the bowl game cheering for Vandy, but I know we have no chance. Our goal was making a bowl this year, which we are very lucky, this is probably the worst vandy team in about 5 years and we finally make a bowl? How ironic, we cant make a bowl with Jay Cutler, and now that we have 3 QB;s that we cant even decide on who all 3 couldnt combine to be as good as Jay and we make a bowl. Uhg lets get this game over and get into baseball season, theres our strong point, baseball and womens bowling.
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                                            • The Seer
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                                              • 10-29-07
                                              • 10641

                                              #23
                                              Dude,I tried to tell you. Vandy won this for all of the reasons I stated above. I don't get every bowl game right but I've been doing this a long time and this was one of the easier reads.
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                                              • mattypiper
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                                                • 10-11-08
                                                • 22

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Seer
                                                Dude,I tried to tell you. Vandy won this for all of the reasons I stated above. I don't get every bowl game right but I've been doing this a long time and this was one of the easier reads.
                                                Oh come on! Bringing up this old thread to say "told you so" ?

                                                Vandy won because of a fluke punt that touched a BC player for 7 quick pts. Without that one wild play, BC would've covered -4. This was a good write up and a good attempt at a handicap from someone who obviously studied both programs. This kind of insight is helpful for all of us. This is what I'd call a "bad beat", there was nothing in Vandy's record that indicated they would beat BC (including BC consistently winning bowl games and Vandy hasn't won since 1955),
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                                                • 10mDive08
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 12-12-08
                                                  • 79

                                                  #25
                                                  A win is a win. Vandy, O hell yea!
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                                                  • The Seer
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                                                    • 10-29-07
                                                    • 10641

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by mattypiper
                                                    Oh come on! Bringing up this old thread to say "told you so" ?

                                                    Vandy won because of a fluke punt that touched a BC player for 7 quick pts. Without that one wild play, BC would've covered -4. This was a good write up and a good attempt at a handicap from someone who obviously studied both programs. This kind of insight is helpful for all of us. This is what I'd call a "bad beat", there was nothing in Vandy's record that indicated they would beat BC (including BC consistently winning bowl games and Vandy hasn't won since 1955),
                                                    Woulda, shoulda, coulda....i'm sorry you are crying but my point was THERE IS NO SURE BET in any game especially these bowls and telling people this was is irresponsible. Vandy played much better competition all year and if you ever watched them you would know their defense would keep them in it and they would find a way to make itclose. 6 points was TOO many, period. Sorry about your bet.
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                                                    • MartinBlank
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                                                      • 07-20-08
                                                      • 8382

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by mattypiper
                                                      Oh come on! Bringing up this old thread to say "told you so" ?

                                                      Vandy won because of a fluke punt that touched a BC player for 7 quick pts. Without that one wild play, BC would've covered -4. This was a good write up and a good attempt at a handicap from someone who obviously studied both programs. This kind of insight is helpful for all of us. This is what I'd call a "bad beat", there was nothing in Vandy's record that indicated they would beat BC (including BC consistently winning bowl games and Vandy hasn't won since 1955),

                                                      Vandy did not win because of a fluke. Turnovers and boneheaded decisions are part of every single game. There is a lesson to be learned here, and it is a simple one. There is no "sure thing". The original poster's own judgment was clouded by his emotional attachment to the ACC. He was convinced BC was better because they made the ACC championship game. I wouldn't have placed much stake in that. Also he failed to understand how jacked Vanderbilt would be playing in their first bowl game in a million years.
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