Sergio Martinez Vs Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

**The HOFF** · 09-15-12, 11:21 PM

Dodged a fukkin bullet there!! I thought Lopez might stop that.

**Imsmarterthanu** · 09-15-12, 11:23 PM

he hit him clean but he also tossed his head with his arm to get the knockdown

**latinrus** · 09-15-12, 11:24 PM

Martinez what a nice fight!

But that ending wa scary he could have lost in the last round!

Chavez is overrated, most of the fight he just received the punches of Martinez!

**sideloaded** · 09-15-12, 11:24 PM

chavez sucks

**Bdolan33** · 09-15-12, 11:25 PM

$700 on martinez -700 live bet almost bit me hard

**onlooker** · 09-15-12, 11:25 PM

JCJR is lazy. If you watch 24/7 on HBO, you would know this.

**Bdolan33** · 09-15-12, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by latinrus

Martinez what a nice fight!

But that ending wa scary he could have lost in the last round!

Chavez is overrated, most of the fight he just received the punches of Martinez!

Could of lost? He was a referee split second decision from stopping it, twice.

**sideloaded** · 09-15-12, 11:26 PM

chavez uses his size, fight in his real weight class he gets killed

**latinrus** · 09-15-12, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by Bdolan33

Could of lost? He was a referee split second decision from stopping it, twice.

I mean u never know what can the refs think!

I liked the fight Martinez did great

I like to see Chavez punched so many times on the face

**The HOFF** · 09-15-12, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu

he hit him clean but he also tossed his head with his arm to get the knockdown

Yeah, he hurt him bad but I saw the forearm push too.

**sideloaded** · 09-15-12, 11:35 PM

Sergio fired back in the last 20 seconds and hurt Chavez, Sergio was still there

**benibrowns** · 09-15-12, 11:38 PM

Chavez was taking to school by old ass Martinez, Martinez is going to have to change his name to Sergio Sandusky....

**JamesKim** · 09-15-12, 11:45 PM

Wow, I'm royally f**ked. I went huge on Martinez ITD. I was so convinced that Chavez would open up more and get corner stopped after taking the beating of his lifetime. Instead he covered up for 11 rounds and then almost finished Martinez in the 12th. Never would I have expected this. Props to Martinez for not covering up and fighting til the end, people were complimenting Chavez's heart, but I think people should be praising Martinez's heart more. That was the best 12th round I think I've ever seen. Can't blame Martinez for not getting the finish, Chavez just refused to throw til the end.

**Dillonious Monk** · 09-16-12, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by sideloaded

chavez sucks

lol ok keyboard warrior.

This was a massive step up in competition for him against a guy with way, way more experience than him...so please, quit talking out of your ass and respect both of these warriors.

People questioning the knockdown is hilarious. You can clearly see Sergio's legs buckle pretty badly after the first huge right hook Chavez JR. lands. Probably best for Martinez he got those 8 seconds to recover. Huge hearts from both guys.

All you people who said JCCJR has no heart and is pampered are eating your words now.

Going from Andy Lee to Sergio...yeah that's a massive F ucking step up. So quit acting like he isn't shit just because he couldn't quite finish Sergio at this young stage in his career.

**The HOFF** · 09-16-12, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by Dillonious Monk

lol ok keyboard warrior.

This was a massive step up in competition for him against a guy with way, way more experience than him...

Martinez 51-2-2
Chavez 46-1-1

**Dillonious Monk** · 09-16-12, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by The HOFF

Martinez 51-2-2
Chavez 46-1-1

Fights fought are one thing but fights fought against better competition is another. Would you not agree Sergio has fought the better competition?

lol Or do you think fights against lesser opponents are just as valuable as those against higher ranked fighters...

MD · 09-16-12, 12:21 AM

First parts of two parlays just came through.

Jones, Bisping, Benavidez and Martinez: 2u to win 7u.

Then a ridiculous, over-the-top parlay for laughs; Jones, Bisping, Benavidez, GSP, Anderson Silva, Story, Erick Silva, Travis Browne, Miocic, Martinez: 1u to win 31u.

I had around 15u on Martinez, but only ended up profiting around 6u, as I had a portion of my money on Martinez ITD. Would have had a much better night with that outcome, but I'm happy with how things turned out, regardless.

**dww123** · 09-16-12, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by Dillonious Monk

Fights fought are one thing but fights fought against better competition is another. Would you not agree Sergio has fought the better competition?

lol Or do you think fights against lesser opponents are just as valuable as those against higher ranked fighters...

So then you meant experience against quality opponents? You didn't say that. Chavez got his butt kicked by a fighter 11 years older and 20 lbs lighter. He won 1 round. The rest weren't even close. He sucks.

**walv89** · 09-16-12, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by JamesKim

Wow, I'm royally f**ked. I went huge on Martinez ITD. I was so convinced that Chavez would open up more and get corner stopped after taking the beating of his lifetime. Instead he covered up for 11 rounds and then almost finished Martinez in the 12th. Never would I have expected this. Props to Martinez for not covering up and fighting til the end, people were complimenting Chavez's heart, but I think people should be praising Martinez's heart more. That was the best 12th round I think I've ever seen. Can't blame Martinez for not getting the finish, Chavez just refused to throw til the end.

i agree i thought martinez showed more heart by not clinching the rest of the round after he got knocked down and instead fought back. JCC jr's was more of desperation more than anything.

**walv89** · 09-16-12, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by Dillonious Monk

Fights fought are one thing but fights fought against better competition is another. Would you not agree Sergio has fought the better competition?

lol Or do you think fights against lesser opponents are just as valuable as those against higher ranked fighters...

this is one of the reasons people think chavez got pampered. He climb his way up through weaker opponents. This fight could only make him better though.

**Dillonious Monk** · 09-16-12, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by dww123

So then you meant experience against quality opponents? You didn't say that. Chavez got his butt kicked by a fighter 11 years older and 20 lbs lighter. He won 1 round. The rest weren't even close. He sucks.

lol I shouldn't even need to say that. It's obvious that fights against better opponents are more valuable in terms of experience.

lol whatever you say captain keyboard warrior. F ucking nut hugging/hating douchebag. Hate douches like you who say "fighter A sucks" just because you wanted the other guy to win. Have some respect, he's obviously got room to improve but he did pretty good for such a big step up in competition and showed alot of heart.

I mean if he really sucks then your boy hit him with everything he had and couldn't finish him and then got knocked flat on his ass an almost got stopped by a guy who sucks so say whatever you like. lol dude was stumbling around the ring falling all over the place even after the knock down...

Originally posted by walv89

this is one of the reasons people think chavez got pampered. He climb his way up through weaker opponents. This fight could only make him better though.

I agree completely. Fights against top competition is huge as far as development for a fighter. He sees that he is beatable in his current form...but at the same time the last round proves to him that victory over such opponents is definitely possible. You can say he has been pampered to a degree as a boxer, but as a person, his fight tonight showed otherwise imo...

I didn't have money on this fight but I wanted JCCJR to win...but I knew it would be tough as it was a big step up. IDK how a fighter couldn't get motivated from a loss like this...and it did seem like JCCJR could have showed up in better shape...and that last round showed something to both of them...so a rematch is intriguing to me.

**BallaHolic777** · 09-16-12, 01:10 AM

would of won 775 on a 5$ 7 fight parlay if Alcine had beat Macklin. Also had Martinez itd to win 250 in a parlay from last week. same old same old as far as me and parlays go

**walv89** · 09-16-12, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by Dillonious Monk

lol I shouldn't even need to say that. It's obvious that fights against better opponents are more valuable in terms of experience.

lol whatever you say captain keyboard warrior. F ucking nut hugging/hating douchebag. Hate douches like you who say "fighter A sucks" just because you wanted the other guy to win. Have some respect, he's obviously got room to improve but he did pretty good for such a big step up in competition and showed alot of heart.

I mean if he really sucks then your boy hit him with everything he had and couldn't finish him and then got knocked flat on his ass an almost got stopped by a guy who sucks so say whatever you like. lol dude was stumbling around the ring falling all over the place even after the knock down...

I agree completely. Fights against top competition is huge as far as development for a fighter. He sees that he is beatable in his current form...but at the same time the last round proves to him that victory over such opponents is definitely possible. You can say he has been pampered to a degree as a boxer, but as a person, his fight tonight showed otherwise imo...

I didn't have money on this fight but I wanted JCCJR to win...but I knew it would be tough as it was a big step up. IDK how a fighter couldn't get motivated from a loss like this...and it did seem like JCCJR could have showed up in better shape...and that last round showed something to both of them...so a rematch is intriguing to me.

he definitely needs to come in in better form and most definitely work on his footwork. He's too stagnant and by the time he unloads, Martinez is gone! If ever there's a rematch, i would put my money on KO or on UNDER.

**AdamB** · 09-16-12, 04:55 AM

Heart was in my throat a bit in that last round, penetrate. Nice fight, Chavez showed that his toughness is pretty hard to match but as expected Martinez outboxed him all day.

**iQon** · 09-16-12, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Dillonious Monk

All you people who said JCCJR has no heart and is pampered are eating your words now.

Jr. was pampered. He didn't go from "Andy Lee to Sergio", he fought a shitload of hand-selected bums the first 44 fights. And he somehow won Sergio's belt without ever fighting him in the process.

Doesn't take "heart" to fight at 160 when you literally dwarf every opponent, either.

There's honestly nothing to respect about Chavez Jr.'s resume. When he jumps to 168, then we'll see what kind of heart he has.

**Dutch** · 09-16-12, 01:17 PM

What does itd mean? In the decision?

**ShotgunRua** · 09-16-12, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Dutch

What does itd mean? In the decision?

In the distance

**JamesKim** · 09-16-12, 08:30 PM

In the distance might be confusing (it sounds like it means after the distance), it means inside the distance.

**illmatick** · 09-17-12, 05:40 AM

not really interested in a rematch with Chavez.

Golovkin vs. Martinez on the other hand, now that's a real fight

**DeFactoCrippler** · 09-19-12, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by JamesKim

Wow, I'm royally f**ked. I went huge on Martinez ITD. I was so convinced that Chavez would open up more and get corner stopped after taking the beating of his lifetime. Instead he covered up for 11 rounds and then almost finished Martinez in the 12th. Never would I have expected this. Props to Martinez for not covering up and fighting til the end, people were complimenting Chavez's heart, but I think people should be praising Martinez's heart more. That was the best 12th round I think I've ever seen. Can't blame Martinez for not getting the finish, Chavez just refused to throw til the end.

Goddamit Kim you really are a square. People could see this coming a mile off. Tell me, wtf does a Korean kid know about the fight game? If I wanted some tips on how to dress up in pajamas and flick my legs in the air like the focking Rockettes I would ask a Korean.

We all know you phagets can't fight, but can you just stfu about boxing in general? I don't mean just you, I mean all Koreans. I'm sick of listening to that phaget Steve Kim as well. Inb4 you say doo kuk kim was "inspirational" when the only thing he "inspired" people to do was water down boxing and try and ban it altogether.

If it wasn't for him we could have got to see 15 rounds of REAL championship boxing, not a 12 round dance competition. Wonder who would have won that?

**Vaughany** · 09-19-12, 10:07 AM

lol

**Vaughany** · 09-19-12, 10:08 AM

DFC, I've not seen a comment from you yet in the 152 preview thread about Kalikas' shirt and how it's fitted?!

**DeFactoCrippler** · 09-19-12, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

DFC, I've not seen a comment from you yet in the 152 preview thread about Kalikas' shirt and how it's fitted?!

Lol, I had some shit to take care of in this thread first. But one a serious note, after reading the comments here I think there might be a slight bias going on in SBR.

For instance people are saying that Martinez took Chavez to school for 11.5 rounds and him kissing canvas didn't really change that. A position I can agree with totally, Martinez was really a step above Chavez in the skill dept.

But on this upcoming UFC card the squares are all over Stann with the logic being Bisping wont be able to handle his power. Now, I get the feeling that if Bisping eludes Stann and gives him a "lesson" for nearly 3 rounds and gets caught near the end and stopped, people who bet Stann would say "See i was right, I told you so".

It's funny because I had to listen to numerous people (including fury) say that Wanderlei was the smart play because he caught Franklin with one lucky punch the entire fight and nearly finished.