Bellator 72 (July 20, 2012)

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-20-12, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

psycho +167 on reduced

letting it ride cause Im drunk
gf " Your funny when your drunk" I call BS on that, cause Im funny 24/6, I take a day off like JC did

**BIGDAY** · 07-20-12, 09:13 PM

+170 now. Could arb easily.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-20-12, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

+170 now. Could arb easily.

Ammousou wore a pink blazer and is from France. I would not respect my self in the morning if I arb out

**PunisherIND** · 07-20-12, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Ammousou wore a pink blazer and is from France. I would not respect my self in the morning if I arb out

lol thought that was kinda pimp on his part.

but he is french, however.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-20-12, 09:18 PM

wow striking speed is not even close.

**BIGDAY** · 07-20-12, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Ammousou wore a pink blazer and is from France. I would not respect my self in the morning if I arb out

100% agreed. Lol!

Dont have enough on Baker anyhow.

**PunisherIND** · 07-20-12, 09:19 PM

wow

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-20-12, 09:19 PM

Ouch! Baker looked scared to be honest.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-20-12, 09:19 PM

lol

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-20-12, 09:20 PM

quickest tap I have ever seen

**killawookie** · 07-20-12, 09:20 PM

Can't believe i took OVER 2.5 round on this shit main card fight... guess my fault for trying to get late night action

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-20-12, 09:26 PM

Lost 4u, time to miss Jack and Wine

**NunyaBidness** · 07-20-12, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

lol. in all honesty, i think vegh won that. i think jimmy smits poised all of your opinions.

I didn't have the audio on. I think it was a close fight. Vegh landed the better/harder shots, but Newton was moving forward and had some flash. I'm not arguing that he should've won the fight if fights were scored fairly, but if you reran the video of that fight in front of 100 sets of 3 judges, Newton wins it 66+ times.

**PunisherIND** · 07-20-12, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I didn't have the audio on. I think it was a close fight. Vegh landed the better/harder shots, but Newton was moving forward and had some flash. I'm not arguing that he should've won the fight if fights was scored fairly, but if you reran that fight in front of 100 sets of 3 judges, Newton wins it 66+ times.

intersting perspective. i wasnt thinking of it from that point of view.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-20-12, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I didn't have the audio on. I think it was a close fight. Vegh landed the better/harder shots, but Newton was moving forward and had some flash. I'm not arguing that he should've won the fight if fights was scored fairly, but if you reran the video of that fight in front of 100 sets of 3 judges, Newton wins it 66+ times.

"Racism is still alive, they just be concealin it"
-Kanye

**TheCalculator** · 07-20-12, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Ouch! Baker looked scared to be honest.

He should be scared.

Heel hooks are the second most dangerous submission (after neck cranks). It only takes about 2 inches past the "breaking point" to destroy the meniscus (and possibly the ACL) of the knee and essentially give a PERMANENT injury.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-20-12, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

He should be scared.

Heel hooks are the second most dangerous submission (after neck cranks). It only takes about 2 inches past the "breaking point" to destroy the meniscus (and possibly the ACL) of the knee and essentially give a PERMANENT injury.

I meant from the opening bell.

I have torn my ACL and MCL, I do not wish that recovery trip on anyone not even my worst enemy or gabe

**TheCalculator** · 07-20-12, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

I meant from the opening bell.

I have torn my ACL and MCL, I do not wish that recovery trip on anyone not even my worst enemy or gabe

Yes -- it's a long nightmarish road that should be avoided at all costs.

**PunisherIND** · 07-20-12, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I didn't have the audio on. I think it was a close fight. Vegh landed the better/harder shots, but Newton was moving forward and had some flash. I'm not arguing that he should've won the fight if fights were scored fairly, but if you reran the video of that fight in front of 100 sets of 3 judges, Newton wins it 66+ times.

nunya, is this how you generally analyze a decision to determine if you got screwed or caught a break? rather than simply asking whether it was a fair decision?

honestly never looked at it this way, but i have to say it got me thinking.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-20-12, 09:51 PM

.......,.

**NunyaBidness** · 07-20-12, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

nunya, is this how you generally analyze a decision to determine if you got screwed or caught a break? rather than simply asking whether it was a fair decision?

Yeah, definitely. And I try to think this way when capping fights as well.

Now that referee information is more readily available prior to fights too, this should probably be included as well, but haven't done the work to include it, myself.

**TheCalculator** · 07-20-12, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Yeah, definitely. And I try to think this way when capping fights as well.

Now that referee information is more readily available prior to fights too, this should probably be included as well, but haven't done the work to include it, myself.

I concur.

The fact that Yves Lavigne was the ref for the Silva fight influenced my play BIG TIME. I knew this would favor Silva because as soon as any sort of flurry would come in -- he would jump in. On the other side, you have Josh Rosenthal. If 2 guys are fighting that are tough -- the odds of the fight going the distance are much higher with him as ref.

**Crassus** · 07-20-12, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

1.5U on Karl Amoussou at +115 to win 1.7WU

0.5U on Waachim Spiritwolf at +225 to win 1.1WU

3U on Travis Wiuff at -255 to win 1.2WU

2U Parlay on

Paul Daley (-485)
Travis Wiuff (-255)
Atilla Vegh (-125)

to win

4.05U

Good night, around 92% ROI unless my math is off.

**NunyaBidness** · 07-20-12, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

Good night, around 92% ROI unless my math is off.

Congrats. How did Vegas go? Did you do that thing we talked about?

**Grabaka** · 07-20-12, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I didn't have the audio on. I think it was a close fight. Vegh landed the better/harder shots, but Newton was moving forward and had some flash. I'm not arguing that he should've won the fight if fights were scored fairly, but if you reran the video of that fight in front of 100 sets of 3 judges, Newton wins it 66+ times.

Yeah, Jimmy is a turd. He made it sound like a beatdown the moron.

**Crassus** · 07-20-12, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Congrats. How did Vegas go? Did you do that thing we talked about?

I did some of it, the low end ones. The other ones weren't too appealing in our group cause of the 1-year thing so we didn't end up doing it. Ended up coming up around like $300 after paying off the costs. So not too bad and it got us two awesome meals so not bad for a weekend.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 07-21-12, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

He should be scared.

Heel hooks are the second most dangerous submission (after neck cranks). It only takes about 2 inches past the "breaking point" to destroy the meniscus (and possibly the ACL) of the knee and essentially give a PERMANENT injury.

You sound smart like sum' kind of doctor or summin'? You make $400k per year?

**NunyaBidness** · 07-21-12, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Crassus

I did some of it, the low end ones. The other ones weren't too appealing in our group cause of the 1-year thing so we didn't end up doing it. Ended up coming up around like $300 after paying off the costs. So not too bad and it got us two awesome meals so not bad for a weekend.

Good, now where's my 25% homeboy? Did you check out the Cosmo buffet?

**NunyaBidness** · 07-21-12, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

You sound smart like sum' kind of doctor or summin'? You make $400k per year?

Isn't he a physical therapist in south america? I think he makes 400k pesos.

**Crassus** · 07-21-12, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Good, now where's my 25% homeboy? Did you check out the Cosmo buffet?

Pretty sure I said 20% brotha-man! paypal in a week or two sound good?
nah, we went to Wynn and Bellagio buffet's. Good good stuff. Is Cosmo up to those standards?

**NunyaBidness** · 07-21-12, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

Pretty sure I said 20% brotha-man! paypal in a week or two sound good?
nah, we went to Wynn and Bellagio buffet's. Good good stuff. Is Cosmo up to those standards?

Can't blame me for trying (or remembering wrong). Cosmo blows Wynn and Bellagio away, IMO.

Check it:

yelp.com

http://www.yelp.com/biz/wicked-spoon-buffet-las-vegas

**Crassus** · 07-21-12, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Can't blame me for trying (or remembering wrong). Cosmo blows Wynn and Bellagio away, IMO.

Check it:

http://www.yelp.com/biz/wicked-spoon-buffet-las-vegas

damn that does look better than bellagio anyway. Next time I will for sure.

**omalley21** · 07-21-12, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

I concur.

The fact that Yves Lavigne was the ref for the Silva fight influenced my play BIG TIME. I knew this would favor Silva because as soon as any sort of flurry would come in -- he would jump in. On the other side, you have Josh Rosenthal. If 2 guys are fighting that are tough -- the odds of the fight going the distance are much higher with him as ref.

I remember Yves Lavigne let marcus davis take that wickid kick to the neck from paul taylor and didnt stop it. Don't know if its that clear cut.

**NunyaBidness** · 07-21-12, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by omalley21

I remember Yves Lavigne let marcus davis take that wickid kick to the neck from paul taylor and didnt stop it. Don't know if its that clear cut.

Yeah, you've always got to be careful with anecdotal evidence. But, it'd be pretty trivial to compile the data into something useful.

**TheCalculator** · 07-21-12, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

You sound smart like sum' kind of doctor or summin'? You make $400k per year?

Been training MMA/street-fighting for 16 years. Been in the business side of the health field (I'm not a Doctor) for over a decade (I have a couple of degrees in the fitness field). That combo taught me how to break every joint in the body and how joints get fawked. lol