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  • Crassus
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    • 01-08-12
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    #36
    Originally posted by bogbat
    Well apparently he had the flu for that fight. I haven't watched it since it originally aired but all I recall is a gassed Lombard laying on Shlemenko for 90% of the fight. Also, didn't Shlemenko also sweep or get a take down or two himself?
    Does Boetsch have as good a chin as Shlemenko? iirc, for 2 rounds lombard landed some friggin bombs on him then got tired when Shlemenko went all eastern european chernoble-caused chin on him.
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    • bogbat
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      • 03-21-10
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      #37
      Originally posted by bjpenn85
      Ok, maybe not great shape. But he seemed tired but ok in 4th round. But most fighters are, if he also had a flu its impressive. But i dont feel like this will be like a huge problem, in a three round fight. Schlemenko may have swept him, i cant remember, but not in the first four as far as i am concerned. I watch 4 rounds yesterday, shlemenko had no answers. It looked so easy to get a takedown on him. My prediction is that he will easily be able to takedown tim boetsch as well. Its not because of his unique technique or a power dobbel or singel leg. I have never wrestled and dont know so much about that. But the thing with lombard is, that he has so quick hands. When he throw those combos, people never seem to even try to counter them. They curl up, and when they do, he either connect with some punches, make the opponents reverse or go down or he just take them down. Because when people are walking back, its ridiculously simple to go for a takedown, and even easier if you are a quick and strong wrestler like lombard. But my concern if any with this matchup is the willpower of tim boetsch in the later rounds. But thats is his only chance. Try to counter those punches...goodnight.
      Yeah, I think its most likely Lombard will do enough to win the first two rounds and take the decision. That's if he doesn't finish in the first. I just can't justify the juice when there is a chance Boetsch could do enough in the second and third to sway the judges. Surely, there are better spots on the card... Speaking of which it looks like lines for the full card are out on sportsbook. hmm..
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      • Imsmarterthanu
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        • 05-02-12
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        #38
        i predict a ko in the first round which one ko's the other I'm not sure

        but i'm leaning towards lombard by ko 1st round
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        • bogbat
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          • 03-21-10
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          #39
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          • bogbat
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            • 03-21-10
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            #40
            I was seriously going to put half a unit on Boetch by decision at +1800 or something absurd the other night when I was high. But then I canceled last second deciding it probably only seemed like a good bet because of the joint had smoked.
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            • Educ8d Degener8
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              • 01-12-10
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              #41
              Originally posted by Rod1010
              you guys are clueless


              hilarious
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              • JoshB
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                • 03-24-11
                • 354

                #42
                Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                Hahaha!
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                • Educ8d Degener8
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by Rod1010



                  Lombard fooled all you noobs


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                  So says this mush...

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                  • Imsmarterthanu
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                    #44
                    lombard didn't lose that fight
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                    • Nick Papageorgio
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                      • 01-07-12
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                      #45
                      mma cappers are really bad on SBR.
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                      • TheCalculator
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                        • 10-10-11
                        • 1683

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                        lombard didn't lose that fight
                        Yes -- the live books had Lombard winning until the end. The judging blew it. That being said Lombard's performance SUCKED!
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                        • Nick Papageorgio
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                          • 01-07-12
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                          #47
                          blocking mma forum, weakest cappers on SBR live here.
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                          • Imsmarterthanu
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                            • 05-02-12
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio
                            mma cappers are really bad on SBR.
                            Wrong MMA judging is semi corrupt
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                            • gabe
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                              • 09-12-11
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio
                              blocking mma forum, weakest cappers on SBR live here.
                              I didn't have the best night tonight, but I had a perfect night last night, and hit 15 out of 17 last weekend. Jesus did great last week, too. This week, everyone was off. Relax.

                              Hope Jesus bounces back strong from his 0-4 night.
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                              • gabe
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                                • 09-12-11
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                                #50
                                If Lombard had won, I would be + money, but instead, down big.

                                If Lombard AND Ebersole had won, I would be too happy right now...
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                                • bogbat
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                                  • 03-21-10
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                                  #51
                                  Despite what I said in this thread about it being wise to stay away from Lombard I still ended up putting him in several parlays. I actually missed the first two rounds of the fight but from what I can see EVERYONE scored it for Lombard. I still had made a profit on the night but if Lombard had of won it would have been my most profitable night of the year.
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio
                                    blocking mma forum, weakest cappers on SBR live here.
                                    lol
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                                    • Vaughany
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 03-07-10
                                      • 45563

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by bogbat
                                      I was seriously going to put half a unit on Boetch by decision at +1800 or something absurd the other night when I was high. But then I canceled last second deciding it probably only seemed like a good bet because of the joint had smoked.
                                      lol bet u regret tht bro!
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                                      • Beelzebubzy
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                                        • 06-06-11
                                        • 6995

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                        If Lombard had won, I would be + money, but instead, down big.

                                        If Lombard AND Ebersole had won, I would be too happy right now...
                                        IF I bang Oprah, I am not using a condom. I call that my 401k
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                                        • NunyaBidness
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                                          • 07-26-09
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by gabe
                                          If Lombard had won, I would be + money, but instead, down big.

                                          If Lombard AND Ebersole had won, I would be too happy right now...

                                          If Ifs and buts was candies and nuts, we'd all have a very merry christmas.
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                                          • Educ8d Degener8
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                                            • 01-12-10
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio
                                            blocking mma forum, weakest cappers on SBR live here.
                                            Nick Phagageorgio... we may be the weakest, but by all reports, we are the funniest, so you may want to reconsider... and by reconsider, I'm referring to that gay ass avatar you have...

                                            Later sweetie pie,
                                            ED
                                            Last edited by Educ8d Degener8; 07-22-12, 07:30 AM.
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                                            • Crassus
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                                              • 01-08-12
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio
                                              blocking mma forum, weakest cappers on SBR live here.

                                              NOOOOOOOO we've lost the insight and brilliance of Nick Papageorgio! Whatever shall we do in the MMA forum. There shall never again be a winning bet here without his sage advice.
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                                              • DeFactoCrippler
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                                                • 03-30-12
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio
                                                mma cappers are really bad on SBR.
                                                I've been trying to tell this to some of these guys this but they just don't want to listen. I swear, if they started playing Cricket in bright pink speedos the "more sports" sub forum would be full of these kids in masks acting like they invented the focking game.

                                                You really have to question their competence don't you? Especially when they make utterly ridiculous predictions like the OP did in this thread. 75% chance, lol, he really stuck it to the books on that line error. Its actually a little naive to tell you the truth. But when you read shit like this you really gotta question these kids grasp on reality

                                                Originally posted by fosho14
                                                Sorry Boetsche, not this time...You are utterly outmatched in this fight, and Lombard isn't going to lose to you by being outmuscled like a rag doll the way Grove was.
                                                Does he think he is talking to Boetsche or something? Yeah, you told him kid. I'm sure these kids aren't at all emotionally involved with these fighters either, lol.

                                                Kelley criterion > Spano system

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                                                • fosho14
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-25-12
                                                  • 554

                                                  #59
                                                  He didn't even beat boetsche, it was a bad decision. And I was right Lombard didn't lose by being out-muscled like Grove was. Your not always going to be right in this game, and I guess the octagon jitters really got to Lombard because he didn't fight like he has in all his previous tape. There's no way of predicting that just like there's no way of predicting that anderson silva would dance with Maia for 5 rounds when theoretically he should've knocked him out easily. Spend less time hating and more time getting out of your parents basement... last week you were calling everyone stupid for grabbing huge value in garcia and loaded up on khan at a terribly over-valued, juiced price. That's the one solitary bet or pick you've made on this forum and it's been dead wrong...congrats defacto!
                                                  Last edited by fosho14; 07-26-12, 01:04 PM.
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by fosho14
                                                    He didn't even beat boetsche, it was a bad decision. And I was right Lombard didn't lose by being out-muscled like Grove was. Your not always going to be right in this game, and I guess the octagon jitters really got to Lombard because he didn't fight like he has in all his previous tape. There's no way of predicting that just like there's no way of predicting that anderson silva would dance with Maia for 5 rounds when theoretically he should've knocked him out easily. Spend less time hating and more time getting out of your parents basement... last week you were calling everyone stupid for grabbing huge value in garcia and loaded up on khan at a terribly over-valued, juiced price. That's the one solitary bet or pick you've made on this forum and it's been dead wrong...congrats defacto!
                                                    He fought pretty much how he always fights...flat-footed just looking for power punches to KO his opponent with no combinations and variety...which is why I didn't play Lombard or put him in any parlays (and ended up actually playing Boetsch by decision). And it was obvious he wasnt going to get outmuscled by Boetsch like Grove was...kind of goes without saying
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                                                    • fosho14
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-25-12
                                                      • 554

                                                      #61
                                                      Not disputing his style man. I watched a lot of footage on him and he's been much much more active in all of his other fights. He has never been close to as inactive as he was in the boetsche fight. This was a mix of the octagon jitters getting to him, and boetsche literally doing nothing, making lombard and his naive coach belive they were winning the fight. Nice job playing boetsche by decision. I believe Lombard did enough to win though.
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                                                      • PunisherIND
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                                                        • 02-24-11
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                                                        #62
                                                        dont get on the defensive fosho, because im not trying to start anything with you. i just wanted to point out that when you started this thread saying there was a 75% chance that lombard wins ITD, this is what i said

                                                        Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                        careful. lombard didnt have the easiest time KO'ing falaniko vitale. i was at that event live, and i remember lombard did not look impressive. fight was very close going into the third. He was -700 in that fight.

                                                        again, this is falaniko vitale i'm talking about.
                                                        notice that i was polite to you, and didnt come off condescending as you were with gabe on the jordan/kongo argument. i merely offered you some insight that you might not have considered, and didnt make it sound as if you were some kind of moron.

                                                        also notice that i didnt throw this in your face after the fact (which would have been very easy to do, and is always easy to talk shit in hindsight), and i didnt act like you were some imbecile for not listening to my sage advice. in fact, i didnt even bring it up until now, and im only doing it now to try and show you why you took so much heat for that jordan/kongo argument and how you should handle these situations in the future. to put it simply, just dont be a dick, especially when you have acknowledged that you are not an expert or a guru.

                                                        anyway, i hope you understand the point im trying to make and dont get defensive. and again, i dont really have any issues with you aside from not understanding your friendship with dr. creepy.
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                                                        • PunisherIND
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                                                          • 02-24-11
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                                                          #63
                                                          oh, and btw, the boestch fight played out a lot like the falaniko fight. only difference is lombard didnt get that 3rd round KO this time.

                                                          sorry, couldnt resist a little self-adulation
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                                                          • fosho14
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 01-25-12
                                                            • 554

                                                            #64
                                                            I have no beef with you but understand that it only gets to these heated points because your loser friend dephaggo loves bashing me after fights BEFORE I've even logged into this forum. How are you not seeing this? Do you not realize that all of these stupid arguments start because that degenerate DFC posts something related to something I failed on, completely unprovoked by me. I respond to him and then somehow I get reprimanded by you without you seeing who the original instigator was from the beginning. The best part, is he offers none of his own breakdowns, predictions or thoughts and contributes nothing, but for some reason you respect him a lot, hmmm . At least you gave an opinion before the fight where as Vaughany said nothing but of course could'nt wait to post "I took boestch by decision" and call me out on all my short-sights after the fight. It's always after the fight, which makes it painfully obvious that he is full of shit and had no idea what was gonna happen... And what exactly are you talking about with Kongo. The only person who I talked to about that after the fight was one idiot who told me to F*uck off when I was trying to help him, and then Karma bit him in the ass for 2 reasons: 1. being a cunty prick, and 2. not listening to my insight which wouldv'e saved him $300. I think your misinterpreting the situation on more than 1 level unfortunately.
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                                                            • fosho14
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                                                              • 01-25-12
                                                              • 554

                                                              #65
                                                              BTW, not taking away from your call on Boetsche punisher. you were one of the few who expressed your beliefs before the fight, rather than chirp me after like V and phaggo with no comment before. I respect that.
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                                                              • DeFactoCrippler
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                                                                • 03-30-12
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by fosho14
                                                                That's the one solitary bet or pick you've made on this forum and it's been dead wrong...congrats defacto!
                                                                Lol this is why you get no respect here. it either you are in a "fog" and can't really grasp reality, or you are a child who thinks repeating something over and over again will make it come true. I bet 500sbr points on Khan for jokes, and I wasn't going around calling anyone stupid either, lol.

                                                                But even if I did you know that isn't the "one solitary pick I've made on this forum" because you were holding Wannabet's hand all through the thread where I picked Rich Franklin, lol.

                                                                So either your memory got really "foggy". or you are just a liar.
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                                                                • PunisherIND
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                                                                  • 02-24-11
                                                                  • 4979

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by fosho14
                                                                  BTW, not taking away from your call on Boetsche punisher. you were one of the few who expressed your beliefs before the fight, rather than chirp me after like V and phaggo with no comment before. I respect that.
                                                                  thanks bud, appreciate that. and im not going to respond to your other post. dont want to start any unnecessary drama.

                                                                  only thing im going to say, is that i dont recall ever reprimanding you except for the time you talked down to gabe. but maybe im wrong.
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                                                                  • fosho14
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-25-12
                                                                    • 554

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                                    thanks bud, appreciate that. and im not going to respond to your other post. dont want to start any unnecessary drama.

                                                                    only thing im going to say, is that i dont recall ever reprimanding you except for the time you talked down to gabe. but maybe im wrong.
                                                                    All good thanks.
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                                                                    • Crassus
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                                                                      • 01-08-12
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by AdamBowden
                                                                      Wow dude it's like we share the same brain because thats exactly what I think! Lombard clearly won that fight. These inept judges cost me big time again.
                                                                      I wouldn't be claiming to share Fosho's brain on this forum bro. We might forgive you cause you're new but no guarantee.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
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                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #70
                                                                        I want to let all my fans know. I fought mu last fight injured. i wasnt 100% sure but i when to the doctors... I have a fracture sternum with a torn cartilage, i got this injure in training for my fight with Tim Boetsch. I have to be out of training for 6weeks i should never have fought like that, but i didnt want to let my fans and the UFC down, love you all. - Hector Lombard
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