Penn vs MacDonald

**Imsmarterthanu** · 06-06-12, 08:03 PM

I say Penn whoops his ass standing

**dww123** · 06-06-12, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by stefan084

As a die hard Penn fan I have to say, why? Why BJ? He stays in a division higher than his natural weight against guys much stronger, then accepts fights with the worst match ups for him possible.It's as if he's looking for ass whippings. Love Penn but have to say MacDonald w/ a Penn in 1st hedge in case BJ could catch him before he gets taken down and worn out again. I really hope I lose money on this fight

Yeah i agree. I'm a big Penn fan too but WW isn't his division. I mean he's only beaten 1 guy at WW in his entire career and now he wants to fight this monster? Don't get it.

**gabe** · 06-06-12, 11:55 PM

It feels like Rory should be a -900 fav and a lock-- but for some reason, I think BJ will submit him.

I think BJ could top him on the feet, and when taken down, catch him in an armbar or something...

**Vaughany** · 06-07-12, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by gabe

It feels like Rory should be a -900 fav and a lock-- but for some reason, I think BJ will submit him.

I think BJ could top him on the feet, and when taken down, catch him in an armbar or something...

yeah but when was the last time we saw BJ look dangerous off his back?

**PunisherIND** · 06-07-12, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

yeah but when was the last time we saw BJ look dangerous off his back?

never. But for arguments sake, he usually sweeps into top control or takes his opponent's back. Aside from gsp and fitch I dont recall anyone taking bj down and keeping him down.

**Vaughany** · 06-07-12, 07:37 AM

True

**Digo** · 06-07-12, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by stefan084

As a die hard Penn fan I have to say, why? Why BJ? He stays in a division higher than his natural weight against guys much stronger, then accepts fights with the worst match ups for him possible.It's as if he's looking for ass whippings. Love Penn but have to say MacDonald w/ a Penn in 1st hedge in case BJ could catch him before he gets taken down and worn out again. I really hope I lose money on this fight

I agree with you man, BJ is my favorite fighter ever, but he is fighting in the wrong division, i can't see he winning this one. I really hope he stay retired...

**sirchadwick1** · 06-07-12, 10:33 AM

I don't have to think too hard about this one... or even look for VALUE. Rory is going to smash BJ and make it look easy. BJ is a legend... but his best days are behind him. The only way I see him pulling off an upset is by sub. No way is Rory going to just let him outbox him on the feet... he will get it to the ground and work him. Ares by bacne.... to the death!

**gabe** · 06-07-12, 11:11 AM

Rory should win, but can't seem to shake off the feeling of a possible Ortiz vs Bader

btw- i was big on Ortiz at +400... locked it in at the monte carlo!!

**NunyaBidness** · 06-07-12, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Rory should win, but can't seem to shake off the feeling of a possible Ortiz vs Bader

btw- i was big on Ortiz at +400... locked it in at the monte carlo!!

I've passed the Monte Carlo one hundred times and its the only strip casino I've never been in. I've never heard of anyone going in there, or staying there, I always assumed it was a hologram.

**NunyaBidness** · 06-07-12, 11:22 AM

I think you guys are going to be surprised by the line on this.

**sirchadwick1** · 06-07-12, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Rory should win, but can't seem to shake off the feeling of a possible Ortiz vs Bader

btw- i was big on Ortiz at +400... locked it in at the monte carlo!!

I just can't see BJ's line at +400... seems to be about 60/40 in Rory's favor from the polls I've seen.

**gabe** · 06-07-12, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

I just can't see BJ's line at +400... seems to be about 60/40 in Rory's favor from the polls I've seen.

LOL that's crazy, rory should be a jon jones type favorite

**gabe** · 06-07-12, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I've passed the Monte Carlo one hundred times and its the only strip casino I've never been in. I've never heard of anyone going in there, or staying there, I always assumed it was a hologram.

I've stayed there twice now. I like the fast food they have there. Players Club doesn't give me good deals on the better hotels. I've only stayed at Mandalay Bay, Monte Carlo, Excalibur, MGM, and Mirage.

**Thor4140** · 06-07-12, 11:46 AM

Penn needs to hope this isn't a five rounder which it could possibly be. I think it will be tight thru one and a half rounds with Penn picking Rory apart. Then size and strength beats weak cardio 10 out of ten times. Of course Penn will say he is in the best condition of his life.

**sirchadwick1** · 06-07-12, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by gabe

LOL that's crazy, rory should be a jon jones type favorite

That's what I was thinking as well... but there are a ton of BJ nuthuggers out there who still think he'll be WW champ some day.
He's just got to come in "in shape" and "mentally ready". We've all heard the drill....

**gabe** · 06-07-12, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Thor4140

Penn needs to hope this isn't a five rounder which it could possibly be. I think it will be tight thru one and a half rounds with Penn picking Rory apart. Then size and strength beats weak cardio 10 out of ten times. Of course Penn will say he is in the best condition of his life.

Nah, it will be a co-main event

**Rubber Guard** · 06-07-12, 02:20 PM

I hope Penn kicks his ass. I have always liked Penn.

But lets not kid ourselves into think BJ will come in shape or even motivated.

What is worse than an older, unmotivated BJ Penn at 170lbs? An older, unmotivated, semi-retired BJ Penn at 170lbs.

He has lost time on his layoff from the sport. It isn't like he "retired" and was still working hard in the gym each day. He was probably coaching some guys up and laying on the beach the rest of the day. He wasn't too into working hard and being fully prepared before....now he has time lost to make up for.

BJ Penn at WW in today's MMA is just wrong. He shouldn't be there.

**The Fobfather** · 06-07-12, 02:35 PM

Its sad because there are so many great fights for him at 155. Probably start off with a hell of a 1st round, followed by a gassed BJ.

**NunyaBidness** · 06-07-12, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by gabe

I've stayed there twice now. I like the fast food they have there. Players Club doesn't give me good deals on the better hotels. I've only stayed at Mandalay Bay, Monte Carlo, Excalibur, MGM, and Mirage.

So you like the MGM properties then? I've always stuck with CET/Harrahs because the comps are off the charts there.

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 06-07-12, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by The Fobfather

Its sad because there are so many great fights for him at 155. Probably start off with a hell of a 1st round, followed by a gassed BJ.

agreed, 155 isn't the same division he left and after UFC 150 Edgar will most likely move to featherweight with a loss. None of his former LW opponents are even in the division anymore

Edgar - likely to FW
Sanchez - at WW
Florian - retired
Sherk - MIA
Stevenson - cut
Pulver - cut

**GunShard** · 06-07-12, 08:30 PM

I predict Penn announcing his retirement after this fight.

MacDonald is the next elite fighter.

**gabe** · 06-07-12, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

So you like the MGM properties then? I've always stuck with CET/Harrahs because the comps are off the charts there.

Yeah, I only get comped at MGM properties. I haven't built enough credit on my Venetian/Palazzo card.

**NunyaBidness** · 06-07-12, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Yeah, I only get comped at MGM properties. I haven't built enough credit on my Venetian/Palazzo card.

Venetian is dope, got married there. The steaks at Carnevino are the best I've ever had, and not that expensive either.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 06-07-12, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Venetian is dope, got married there. The steaks at Carnevino are the best I've ever had, and not that expensive either.

Woah...

**PunisherIND** · 06-07-12, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Woah...

goddamn. now i want steak.

**NunyaBidness** · 06-07-12, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Woah...

No doubt, that place is ridonkulous. Going to be the first place I hit when I get in town. Usually just hit the theatre menu, get the Carpaccio, and the Filet Mignon with a side of the parsnip dish they have and I'm in heaven.

**gabe** · 06-07-12, 11:05 PM

The title of this thread makes me think:

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**NunyaBidness** · 06-07-12, 11:07 PM

We're thinking about delicious steaks here and you're making me think about McDonald's instead?

**gabe** · 06-07-12, 11:12 PM

lol my bad i didn't see the posts haha

i still havent been to a steak joint in vegas... always plan to, but i neveer end up doing 90% of what i plan to do in vegas

**PunisherIND** · 06-09-12, 07:31 AM

this will most likely be a 3 round fight as they just announced JDS-Cain will be headlining UFC 152.

im going to have to try to make it to toronto for this event.

**darko3131** · 06-09-12, 10:40 AM

My God that steak looks like it would take 5 years off your life from clogging your arteries. Rory by Dec.

**illmatick** · 06-09-12, 11:56 AM

Depending on which welterweight-BJ shows up on the scales, I'd definitely consider backing him as sizeable dog here.

And I love me some Rory Hype, too.

**shady610** · 06-10-12, 02:29 AM

The prodigy will lose. He has beat only 1 fighter at 170. There is nothing he has shown me that suggests he can beat someone who will train much harder than him, and be more skilled.