Lesnar out... Dos santos vs carwin...

sweepem · 05-12-11, 04:20 PM

Carwin will get ktfo. He's way to slow and has no gas tank.

King Mayan · 05-12-11, 04:24 PM

Dos Santos whooping that ass...

Sucks for Brock though.

Ladle · 05-12-11, 04:28 PM

Carwin will get ktfo. He's way to slow and has no gas tank.

I wouldn't be so sure. JDS has a decent chin, but he keeps his hands low and is a rather hittable fighter.

Very intriguing fight.

rocky mattioli · 05-12-11, 04:41 PM

all that effort put into the" jon olav einemo" thread for naught?...

at least we had bj penn`s "norwegian"

panel....classic....

sirchadwick1 · 05-12-11, 04:53 PM

Shit. I've had $ tied up in JDS/Brock for a long time now... was getting excited for it. Now I have to rethink things.

Vaughany · 05-12-11, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by rocky mattioli

all that effort put into the" jon olav einemo" thread for naught?...

at least we had bj penn`s "norwegian"

panel....classic....

brooks85 · 05-12-11, 04:55 PM

dam that sucks, UFC is in a rut lately with all these replacements

koscheckbaby · 05-12-11, 04:58 PM

God, the level of standup skill is so drastic in this fight. JDS does leave himself open a bit, but he's a way better boxer than Carwin. Carwin has that huge lucky puncher's chance in this fight as always though. He may try and stall against the cage like he did with Mir, since he's not gonna want to go blow for blow with JDS.

jin2daj · 05-12-11, 05:14 PM

equally good replacement imo.

presents a different challenge to jds but the matchup is just as interesting.

still really excited for this fight.

Ladle · 05-12-11, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

Shit. I've had $ tied up in JDS/Brock for a long time now... was getting excited for it. Now I have to rethink things.

Yeah, I had money on both JDS and Carwin. Bit irritating.

Vaughany · 05-12-11, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Ladle

Yeah, I had money on both JDS and Carwin. Bit irritating.

Yeah ruined that great value on Carwin by KO we got on paddy

NunyaBidness · 05-12-11, 05:32 PM

-260/+200

Kaladarus · 05-12-11, 05:48 PM

This kind of sucks I had a lot of money on the Lesnar fight.

Chairib · 05-12-11, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

God, the level of standup skill is so drastic in this fight. JDS does leave himself open a bit, but he's a way better boxer than Carwin. Carwin has that huge lucky puncher's chance in this fight as always though. He may try and stall against the cage like he did with Mir, since he's not gonna want to go blow for blow with JDS.

fail

Majoravsfan · 05-12-11, 05:53 PM

Shane carwin probably wont be quick enough, his best chance is a first round knockout. I cant see him controlling the fight or beating Jds in round 2 or 3.

Kaladarus · 05-12-11, 05:54 PM

Like Carwin at +190 right now, but I think I'll just wait for props for this one.

brooks85 · 05-12-11, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Chairib

fail

instead of saying fail you should start saying the name of that thread of yours "Mixed Martial Arts and Crafts"

It would put a lot more emphasis on failing but it would require you too type out some more letters

Kaladarus · 05-12-11, 06:25 PM

I guess Lesnar is loving the May 9 right now.

Ladle · 05-12-11, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

instead of saying fail you should start saying the name of that thread of yours "Mixed Martial Arts and Crafts"

It would put a lot more emphasis on failing but it would require you too type out some more letters

Ohhhhhhh!

RaiderNation MMA · 05-12-11, 06:54 PM

close fight now im thinking carwin might actually pull it out

jacktheknife · 05-13-11, 12:44 AM

Anyone care to recall that Carwin is a Div II wrestling legend? +190 is insane.

Chairib · 05-13-11, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

instead of saying fail you should start saying the name of that thread of yours "Mixed Martial Arts and Crafts"

It would put a lot more emphasis on failing but it would require you too type out some more letters

Yawn. What's wrong Brooks that time of the month? You acting like bigger bitch than you usually are.

bogbat · 05-13-11, 03:26 AM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

God, the level of standup skill is so drastic in this fight. JDS does leave himself open a bit, but he's a way better boxer than Carwin. Carwin has that huge lucky puncher's chance in this fight as always though. He may try and stall against the cage like he did with Mir, since he's not gonna want to go blow for blow with JDS.

Originally posted by Chairib

fail

Why not explain nicely why you think he failed? You come across an mma elitist asshole. Gives casual fans a break, not everyone is going to make the sport their obsession enough to know the true mechanics of the sport and clash of styles.

Anyway, I don't see Carwin taking the middle of the octagon and trading with JDS if he can help it. I think he'll opt to bully him up against the fence and unload with the same short but brutal uppercuts he destroyed Mir with.

Has Carwin lost a significant amount of muscle mass? If not he will probably gas again a Carwin Round 1 KO prop bet along with a straight wager on JDS may be profitable.

Camdemonium · 05-13-11, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

God, the level of standup skill is so drastic in this fight. JDS does leave himself open a bit, but he's a way better boxer than Carwin. Carwin has that huge lucky puncher's chance in this fight as always though. He may try and stall against the cage like he did with Mir, since he's not gonna want to go blow for blow with JDS.

I don't understand the stalling claim. Carwin finished Mir in the first round after hitting him in the ear with the shortest knockout punches I've ever seen. I fail to see how using your fist to make someone unconscious in the first round is stalling.

Vaughany · 05-13-11, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by Camdemonium

I don't understand the stalling claim. Carwin finished Mir in the first round after hitting him in the ear with the shortest knockout punches I've ever seen. I fail to see how using your fist to make someone unconscious in the first round is stalling.

I thought it was more the short right hand uppercuts that Carwin landed tht dropped Mir. But ur right he didnt stall Mir for too long against the cage, perhaps what he's sayin is the general strategy was to pin Mir against the cage in the first place.

Ladle · 05-13-11, 07:52 AM

I wouldn't say Carwin stalled in the Mir fight whatsoever. Miragliotta's separation was dumb.

Chairib · 05-13-11, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by bogbat

Why not explain nicely why you think he failed? You come across an mma elitist asshole. Gives casual fans a break, not everyone is going to make the sport their obsession enough to know the true mechanics of the sport and clash of styles.

Anyway, I don't see Carwin taking the middle of the octagon and trading with JDS if he can help it. I think he'll opt to bully him up against the fence and unload with the same short but brutal uppercuts he destroyed Mir with.

Has Carwin lost a significant amount of muscle mass? If not he will probably gas again a Carwin Round 1 KO prop bet along with a straight wager on JDS may be profitable.

Okay let's get something straight, I am a MMA elitist asshole and I've never claimed to be anything other than that. It probably has something to do with the fact I've been following the sport since it's inception but also been training off and on in BJJ since the 90's.

Most opinions I read about the sport are complete shite, and I will continue to treat those opinions and the people who hold them with either ridicule, scorn, and/or derision.

Now if I only addressed other posters here with one line responses you might have a point. But the fact of the matter is I also write posts filled with thoughtful well reasoned analysis on both the fighters and their past fights. It's why people ask me in my thread or by directly messaging me for my opinions. So forgive me if I'm curt in my response to a particular poster, obviously it's clear I don't put much into his or her opinion on the matter. There have been plenty of times where I've given one word response only to follow it up with an exhaustive analysis in a later piece. HAVE YOU EVER DONE THAT? By the way, who are you to even question me, my response, or the manner in which I address something?

If what I write really bothers you, then I suggest you stop being such a MMA emo bitch and get over it. Honestly, grow some balls. This is is the last time I will address this or you directly. Do you understand plebeian?

Now I gotta catch a flight to LA for my nephew's college graduation.

Have a nice weekend.

cheeese · 05-13-11, 12:59 PM

You guys couldn't see but he dropped tha mic and walked out after that post.

bogbat · 05-13-11, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Chairib

Okay let's get something straight, I am a MMA elitist asshole and I've never claimed to be anything other than that. It probably has something to do with the fact I've been following the sport since it's inception but also been training off and on in BJJ since the 90's. Most opinions I read about the sport are complete shite, and I will continue to treat those opinions and the people who hold them with either ridicule, scorn, and/or derision. Now if I only addressed other posters here with one line responses you might have a point. But the fact of the matter is I also write posts filled with thoughtful well reasoned analysis on both the fighters and their past fights. It's why people ask me in my thread or by directly messaging me for my opinions. So forgive me if I'm curt in my response to a particular poster, obviously it's clear I don't put much into his or her opinion on the matter. There have been plenty of times where I've given one word response only to follow it up with an exhaustive analysis in a later piece. HAVE YOU EVER DONE THAT? By the way, who are you to even question me, my response, or the manner in which I address something? If what I write really bothers you, then I suggest you stop being such a MMA emo bitch and get over it. Honestly, grow some balls. This is is the last time I will address this or you directly. Do you understand plebeian? Now I gotta catch a flight to LA for my nephew's college graduation. Have a nice weekend.

BRB writing a three page essay on a GSP vs Shields when even the most casual of fan predicted it in a sentence or two.

brooks85 · 05-13-11, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by bogbat

BRB writing a three page essay on a GSP vs Shields when even the most casual of fan predicted it in a sentence or two.

haha, I almost couldn't believe someone spent that much time but it is chairib, so he has to act like he knows what he is doing. So a long-winded writeup on a very easy fight to call will trick some people.

good to know im not the only one who sees that chairib is full of shit, ive noticed it since day 1. I scratch my head as to why people ask him for info, like it is actually worth something?

You would better off flipping a coin, at least then you would know the real results. Instead of some kid online who hasn't made one pick yet

chair reminds me of when I was 14 and had AOL, I was the king at BSing. Probably why Im so good at detecting it nowadays.

koscheckbaby · 05-13-11, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

I thought it was more the short right hand uppercuts that Carwin landed tht dropped Mir. But ur right he didnt stall Mir for too long against the cage, perhaps what he's sayin is the general strategy was to pin Mir against the cage in the first place.

Yes. Carwin didn't want to do anything with Mir other than clinch work. It worked out for him ultimately, but that fight was starting to drag until those short punches woke everybody up and put Mir out. I doubt Carwin will have the same success against JDS, but if he refused to trade with Mir, I have serious doubts he's gonna want to trade with JDS. He will stall with clinch work, I believe.

NunyaBidness · 05-14-11, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by cheeese

You guys couldn't see but he dropped tha mic and walked out after that post.

bogbat · 05-14-11, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

haha, I almost couldn't believe someone spent that much time but it is chairib, so he has to act like he knows what he is doing. So a long-winded writeup on a very easy fight to call will trick some people. good to know im not the only one who sees that chairib is full of shit, ive noticed it since day 1. I scratch my head as to why people ask him for info, like it is actually worth something? You would better off flipping a coin, at least then you would know the real results. Instead of some kid online who hasn't made one pick yet chair reminds me of when I was 14 and had AOL, I was the king at BSing. Probably why Im so good at detecting it nowadays.

Yep I'd tail you over him any day of the week. He acts like he has something to prove and constantly insults others. He's very petty and I wouldn't be surprised if there is something very wrong with him mentally, maybe a narcissistic disorder of sorts.

Varker · 05-14-11, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by Chairib

Okay let's get something straight, I am a MMA elitist asshole and I've never claimed to be anything other than that. It probably has something to do with the fact I've been following the sport since it's inception but also been training off and on in BJJ since the 90's.

Most opinions I read about the sport are complete shite, and I will continue to treat those opinions and the people who hold them with either ridicule, scorn, and/or derision.

Now if I only addressed other posters here with one line responses you might have a point. But the fact of the matter is I also write posts filled with thoughtful well reasoned analysis on both the fighters and their past fights. It's why people ask me in my thread or by directly messaging me for my opinions. So forgive me if I'm curt in my response to a particular poster, obviously it's clear I don't put much into his or her opinion on the matter. There have been plenty of times where I've given one word response only to follow it up with an exhaustive analysis in a later piece. HAVE YOU EVER DONE THAT? By the way, who are you to even question me, my response, or the manner in which I address something?

If what I write really bothers you, then I suggest you stop being such a MMA emo bitch and get over it. Honestly, grow some balls. This is is the last time I will address this or you directly. Do you understand plebeian?

Now I gotta catch a flight to LA for my nephew's college graduation.

Have a nice weekend.

LOL I smell a troll.