Will the UFC address draws now?

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  • FlashinLeather
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-04-11
    • 573

    #1
    Will the UFC address draws now?
    After two high profile fights ending in a draw (Fitch vs Penn and Maynard vs Edgar) will the UFC do something to address draws, either adding a round (much like TUF and Kickboxing) or adding a tie break judge
  • teaserpleaser
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-14-08
    • 26016

    #2
    No they wont they would have done it by now. draws been going on for a while i dont like em.
    Last edited by teaserpleaser; 02-27-11, 12:39 AM.
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    • bogbat
      SBR MVP
      • 03-21-10
      • 1843

      #3
      Some people here will be happy with it because I saw some post that they took the +5000 draw prop.
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      • JuicedUp
        SBR MVP
        • 01-20-10
        • 3396

        #4
        the ufc doesn't control the judging in any way so....no. They won't add a round either.
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        • Cuse0323
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-09-09
          • 30169

          #5
          they're not gettin a cent from me after this night of bullshit judging.
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          • iQon
            SBR MVP
            • 04-08-10
            • 1483

            #6
            An extra round or judge doesn't fix the "problem". The 4th judge could score it a draw as well. The extra round could be another draw. And a 6th round could be disastrous.
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            • beanbag
              SBR MVP
              • 01-21-10
              • 2364

              #7
              draws are bullshit.. shouldnt of even been played
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              • FlashinLeather
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-04-11
                • 573

                #8
                Originally posted by JuicedUp
                the ufc doesn't control the judging in any way so....no. They won't add a round either.
                What the UFC does do is go around the United States and rest of the world to get MMA sanctioned, so they do have some say in the rules, much like they choose to have elbows on the ground or not (see strikeforce). If the UFC really wanted to address the issues of breaking a draw i'm pretty sure that they could put in place some kind of system to do so.
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                • FlashinLeather
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-04-11
                  • 573

                  #9
                  Originally posted by iQon
                  An extra round or judge doesn't fix the "problem". The 4th judge could score it a draw as well. The extra round could be another draw. And a 6th round could be disastrous.
                  The 4th judge would not have to score the fight round by round but could look at the fight as a whole in order to decide on the winner. Almost every major sport has something in place as a tie breaker why not MMA?
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                  • RaiderNation MMA
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-05-10
                    • 598

                    #10
                    i dont mind draws, shit rarely happens anyways.sometimes its just that close. extra round wud b sweet tho
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                    • Kaladarus
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-11-09
                      • 1876

                      #11
                      UFC wont do anything. They make more money off draws for the most part. Also with all the rules they have it would be hard to add a round or a judge without changing what the sport is. The UFC already has a predetermined outline they've made and it would be hard to change it with the commissions accepting the changes.
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                      • bracerman
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 01-07-11
                        • 469

                        #12
                        Less than 1% of all UFC fights have ended in a draw. That being said, as judges wake up and start awarding 10-8 rounds, we're going to start seeing more of them.

                        I have no problem with draws as long as it's the right call.
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                        • rocky mattioli
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-26-10
                          • 1263

                          #13
                          i never liked even rounds in boxing...imo,it`s a judging cop-out...


                          if you really want to avoid draws,just add a stipultion to the rule book that states that no rounds will be scored even...probably should be implemented in all combat sports...makes the judges earn their money....maybe they`ll pay closer attention...

                          inform the commissions that sanction ufc fights that they have a rule change....
                          i seriously doubt that state commissions are gonna boycott the "cash cow" ufc over such a rule change....

                          you could still have draws...but it should diminish the possibility even more...

                          just a thought..

                          and btw...imo,takedowns(without significant damage done) get waaaayyy to much weight in the ufc...so many fights seem to be scored on takedowns...it gives wrestlers too much of an advantage over guys that actually engage...


                          don`t get me wrong...takedowns should be a part of mma..it`s a huge advantage to have a guy on his back.....but,with all dana`s crying about lack of action in fights,trying to mitigate the value of takedowns that result in no significant action,might change the mindset that most judges have....and that is that takedowns seem to hold too much sway over scoring.....


                          just my opinion...
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                          • 99Boxster
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-22-10
                            • 2461

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Cuse0323
                            they're not gettin a cent from me after this night of bullshit judging.
                            Hey man. You are definitely in the wrong here. The athletic commissions are who hire the judges and refs, NOT UFC. This is a huge problem in MMA. Get with the program...
                            Guess who's stackin' gold and silver? THIS GUY
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                            • RaiderNation MMA
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-05-10
                              • 598

                              #15
                              i feel like atheltic comisson people dont really even follow mma, you need fans in there
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                              • NickTheGrip
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 10-18-10
                                • 33

                                #16
                                draws are part of the game. It would be nice to see an extension round for main card fights though.
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                                • urge2kill
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-27-09
                                  • 1722

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                  i never liked even rounds in boxing...imo,it`s a judging cop-out...


                                  if you really want to avoid draws,just add a stipultion to the rule book that states that no rounds will be scored even...probably should be implemented in all combat sports...makes the judges earn their money....maybe they`ll pay closer attention...
                                  How are the judges supposed to decide which fighter gets the round if they think it was an even round?
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                                  • Poppa Catfish
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-22-10
                                    • 3352

                                    #18
                                    All draws and split decisions from here on out should be counted as Nick Ring victories

                                    I think draws aren't called enough, to be honest. Plenty of fights where neither fighter really did that much, I don't want them to flip a coin. A victory should mean something
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                                    • kiefynugs
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-20-10
                                      • 572

                                      #19
                                      I think I just need to be putting a half unit or so down on the draw for some of these more competitive fights. I never bet the draw and it's screwed me several times
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                                      • sportsfanatic
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-10-07
                                        • 3967

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by bogbat
                                        Some people here will be happy with it because I saw some post that they took the +5000 draw prop.
                                        which book was this?
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                                        • MMAdisciple
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 02-16-11
                                          • 227

                                          #21
                                          More draws = less robberies
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                                          • MMAdisciple
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 02-16-11
                                            • 227

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sportsfanatic
                                            which book was this?
                                            It was me who played the Penn/Fitch draw, +5500 at 5Dimes.
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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                                              All draws and split decisions from here on out should be counted as Nick Ring victories

                                              I think draws aren't called enough, to be honest. Plenty of fights where neither fighter really did that much, I don't want them to flip a coin. A victory should mean something
                                              Yeah I agree, draws happen all the time in soccer and nobody bats and eyelid...I'd much rather see a fight declared a draw than the Ring/Fukuda atrocity the other night.
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                                              • Poppa Catfish
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-22-10
                                                • 3352

                                                #24
                                                Its hardwired into us Americans for some reason, the feeling that draws are some terrible shitty thing. We dread it, and I don't know why. We have silly rules in our Football where the game boils down to who can drive the field a few yards and kick a field goal, and in baseball they will play a good 8-10 hours if need be just to get a winner.

                                                so in honor of our great sport Football (or hand egg to you Europeans) I propose another rule, that winner of matches that are deemed to be draws within regulation time, will be decided by best 2-3 thumb wrestling matches.
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                                                  Its hardwired into us Americans for some reason, the feeling that draws are some terrible shitty thing. We dread it, and I don't know why. We have silly rules in our Football where the game boils down to who can drive the field a few yards and kick a field goal, and in baseball they will play a good 8-10 hours if need be just to get a winner.

                                                  so in honor of our great sport Football (or hand egg to you Europeans) I propose another rule, that winner of matches that are deemed to be draws within regulation time, will be decided by best 2-3 thumb wrestling matches.
                                                  ha yes, guess it the "Lombardi" theory engrained in American sport.
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                                                  • FlashinLeather
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-04-11
                                                    • 573

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                                                    Its hardwired into us Americans for some reason, the feeling that draws are some terrible shitty thing. We dread it, and I don't know why. We have silly rules in our Football where the game boils down to who can drive the field a few yards and kick a field goal, and in baseball they will play a good 8-10 hours if need be just to get a winner.

                                                    so in honor of our great sport Football (or hand egg to you Europeans) I propose another rule, that winner of matches that are deemed to be draws within regulation time, will be decided by best 2-3 thumb wrestling matches.
                                                    Its about money for me...If its a draw i loose for sure, if someone wins it's only a good chance that i loose
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