Pacquiao - Margarito

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 11-14-10, 01:13 PM

Tight fight, now let's see the fight everyone wants to see!

**Flexin** · 11-14-10, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by frostno98

Floyd will beat Pacquiaio because he's not a better fighter, but because the judge will award it to him. Since Floyd is champ, it's Pacquiaio job to beat him decisively like the fight tonight. Unfortunately, I think Floyd will probably do his run and hit tactic that will work in his favor to get points. Unlike Magarito who went all out, despite a losing effort and getting beat down in the process.

Margarito didn't go all out, unless being a punching bag is going all out. Margarito keep coming but the didn't do much at all except when Manny was on the ropes. And there was only a few of those times that Margarito had much of a part in putting him there.

You say Floyd will run and hit. What he does is us movement. He will hit you two times and then move 15 degrees one way and hit you again. You turn to fight back and he has moved 30 degrees the other way and is hitting you again and then is gone. Thats the same thing Manny does and they both do it very well.

Floyd will also use defense and slip punches and is hard to hit then he can counter. That works great on a lot of fighters but Manny throws so many punches that he will not be able to do that exactly like he does with a slower fighter.

I believe Floyd will win that fight but it could possibility be his toughest fight. I can't see anyone that Manny has fought that has the size, speed and power of Floyd. But I also don't feel that Floyd has fought a fighter that has everything that Manny is bringing to the table.

I think this could be a fight of the year type of fight. This is the biggest fight in boxing right now. The numbers this fight should do will be unbelievable.

I can only see them both fighting maybe 2 or 3 more fights. This is one fight that should be on that list for them. Boxing needs this fight. If this fight happens everyone needs to buy this fight if you even half like boxing. If they do the PPV numbers they should get it will be more of an incentive to put together big fights.

James

**csm506** · 11-14-10, 01:36 PM

Margarito's face looks like Joan Rivers

**csm506** · 11-14-10, 01:37 PM

He better stick to masonry work it is safer

**Flexin** · 11-14-10, 01:39 PM

I agree that Paul is too tall. But everyone is too this or that for Manny and he pretty much walks through them. If Paul could keep his distance he would destroy Manny but can he do that?

I agree with Berto. He is another fighter that should get a chance at Manny.

James

**Ian** · 11-14-10, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

easy money. pacman will never fight paul williams. he is just too tall. maybe another marquez fight or possibly berto if floyd doesn't happen.

I agree Pacquiao will probably avoid Williams in favor of other boxers, but that would be an amazing action fight. The line would probably offer great value on Paul. Berto is imo deserving of a shot at either Floyd or Paq because of his record, but I think he would be slaughtered by either of those guys, especially Pacquiao.

**Maxmillion** · 11-14-10, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Ian

I agree Pacquiao will probably avoid Williams in favor of other boxers, but that would be an amazing action fight. The line would probably offer great value on Paul. Berto is imo deserving of a shot at either Floyd or Paq because of his record, but I think he would be slaughtered by either of those guys, especially Pacquiao.

yeah i guess berto could be bext but i think the next fight is a floyd one or nothing. manny would be able to name the round where he kos berto

**Maxmillion** · 11-14-10, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Flexin

Margarito didn't go all out, unless being a punching bag is going all out. Margarito keep coming but the didn't do much at all except when Manny was on the ropes. And there was only a few of those times that Margarito had much of a part in putting him there.

You say Floyd will run and hit. What he does is us movement. He will hit you two times and then move 15 degrees one way and hit you again. You turn to fight back and he has moved 30 degrees the other way and is hitting you again and then is gone. Thats the same thing Manny does and they both do it very well.

Floyd will also use defense and slip punches and is hard to hit then he can counter. That works great on a lot of fighters but Manny throws so many punches that he will not be able to do that exactly like he does with a slower fighter.

I believe Floyd will win that fight but it could possibility be his toughest fight. I can't see anyone that Manny has fought that has the size, speed and power of Floyd. But I also don't feel that Floyd has fought a fighter that has everything that Manny is bringing to the table.

I think this could be a fight of the year type of fight. This is the biggest fight in boxing right now. The numbers this fight should do will be unbelievable.

I can only see them both fighting maybe 2 or 3 more fights. This is one fight that should be on that list for them. Boxing needs this fight. If this fight happens everyone needs to buy this fight if you even half like boxing. If they do the PPV numbers they should get it will be more of an incentive to put together big fights.

James

manny beats floyd, i was not a manny believer but i am now. floyd's one two punches and out wont get it done against manny. manny is just too active, he throws more combinations. he may not hurt floyd but i can see him getting a close nod.

also, i dont see a bigger man beating manny. it just does not work. speed and precision can beat him. hell i give marquez a decent chance of beating manny than a berto or khan

**Flexin** · 11-14-10, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Maxmillion

manny beats floyd, i was not a manny believer but i am now. floyd's one two punches and out wont get it done against manny. manny is just too active, he throws more combinations. he may not hurt floyd but i can see him getting a close nod. also, i dont see a bigger man beating manny. it just does not work. speed and precision can beat him. hell i give marquez a decent chance of beating manny than a berto or khan

Floyd has that speed and precision. And he will not throw 1 and 2 punches against Manny. I believe Manny can hurt Floyd but Floyd would win this fight. Manny does stand a chance. Manny will make Floyd fight like he has never fought before.

You have to remember, most guys can plant their feet to hit Manny really hard. Manny makes it hard to hit him and will hit you many times when you go for your shot. This is something that Floyd can do as well.

This is not an easy fight for ether fighter. But I think if I picked a side for my money it would be on Floyd.

James

**unde0087** · 11-14-10, 02:27 PM

another decision, what a joke, boxing is dead

**Flexin** · 11-14-10, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

another decision, what a joke, boxing is dead

LOL. Yeah ok. Some fights go the distance. It happens in MMA as well so I guess that is dead.

James

**iQon** · 11-14-10, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by frostno98

Floyd will beat Pacquiaio because he's not a better fighter, but because the judge will award it to him. Since Floyd is champ, it's Pacquiaio job to beat him decisively like the fight tonight. Unfortunately, I think Floyd will probably do his run and hit tactic that will work in his favor to get points. Unlike Magarito who went all out, despite a losing effort and getting beat down in the process.

Dude, we're talking about Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather.

And Manny's the one who actually has a belt. WBO Welterweight and WBC Super Middleweight to be exact. He's also dropped a 135 and 140 pound belt in the last 3 years.

**GJMike** · 11-14-10, 08:02 PM

well... i got that wrong...congrats on those who hit it.

**BobHarvey** · 11-14-10, 08:54 PM

Margarito's decision to go the distance likely cost him his career. His trainer should never have allowed him to come out for the 10th round.

His words "I'm a Mexican, I'm a warrior" were as macho as it comes. If going 12 rounds and having your face used as a speed bag is being a "Warrior"...I'll pass.

At least Manny tried not to hit him in the last three rounds...but the damage had been done by then. If macho is the mark of a man, then Margarito has many marks on his face that didn't have to be there.

Last I heard he was still in the hospital and is going to have surgery on his eye, nose and cheek. Sad.

**Maxmillion** · 11-15-10, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by Flexin

Floyd has that speed and precision. And he will not throw 1 and 2 punches against Manny. I believe Manny can hurt Floyd but Floyd would win this fight. Manny does stand a chance. Manny will make Floyd fight like he has never fought before.

You have to remember, most guys can plant their feet to hit Manny really hard. Manny makes it hard to hit him and will hit you many times when you go for your shot. This is something that Floyd can do as well.

This is not an easy fight for ether fighter. But I think if I picked a side for my money it would be on Floyd.

James

i hope we get to see it in 2011.

**Maxmillion** · 11-15-10, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by BobHarvey

Margarito's decision to go the distance likely cost him his career. His trainer should never have allowed him to come out for the 10th round. His words "I'm a Mexican, I'm a warrior" were as macho as it comes. If going 12 rounds and having your face used as a speed bag is being a "Warrior"...I'll pass. At least Manny tried not to hit him in the last three rounds...but the damage had been done by then. If macho is the mark of a man, then Margarito has many marks on his face that didn't have to be there. Last I heard he was still in the hospital and is going to have surgery on his eye, nose and cheek. Sad.

they should have thrown in the towel after the 9th or 10th. margarito has NO CHANCE to win the fight

i could not agree with you more.....i would think margarito got paid well because he is done, first the mosely beatdown and now this one, i am sure margarito will fight on and i guess we will see what if anything he has left

**NYSportsGuy210** · 11-15-10, 01:52 AM

Floyd Mayweather doesn't want any part of Manny Pacquiaio. He's gonna be out skilled big time.

**Flexin** · 11-15-10, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210

Floyd Mayweather doesn't want any part of Manny Pacquiaio. He's gonna be out skilled big time.

Out skilled? There are not many fighters out there with better defense then Mayweather and he has power and a accurate punch. Mayweather has much better defense, Manny is more aggressive on defense. Mayweather seems to be able to adjust well. Mayweather will have to fight a different fight when fighting Manny.

For the most part both of these fighters make other fighters look like they don't belong in the ring with them. It will be interesting to see what happens when they square off.

The speed and power that will be displayed in this fight will be amazing.

James

**Cuse0323** · 11-15-10, 03:21 AM

It'll be a shame if we never get to see the two fight is all I know.

**NYSportsGuy210** · 11-15-10, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by Flexin

Out skilled? There are not many fighters out there with better defense then Mayweather and he has power and a accurate punch. Mayweather has much better defense, Manny is more aggressive on defense. Mayweather seems to be able to adjust well. Mayweather will have to fight a different fight when fighting Manny.

For the most part both of these fighters make other fighters look like they don't belong in the ring with them. It will be interesting to see what happens when they square off.

The speed and power that will be displayed in this fight will be amazing.

James

Pacquio has improved tremendously on defense as well. The simple fact is that Mayweather has been ducking Manny ever since he saw what Pac Man did to Miguel Cotto (who is supposed to be a bull in power boxing) and he knows that Manny can take whatever Mayweather throws at him cause of Pac man's iron chin....but when it comes to absorbing Manny's combos Floyd knows he a gonner after round 8 or 9.

**pat venditto** · 11-15-10, 04:44 AM

Pacquiao doesn't have an iron chin. He just usually out speeds most.

Manny's body is vulnerable he seems to take headshots well but not body shots.

Pacquiao mayweather fight will never happen for business reasons.

Pacquiao is willing to fight but mayweather really isn't because he knows his 30 million dollar pay days will be 5 million once he gets a loss if he ever does.

**Daveyboy** · 11-15-10, 05:49 AM

Another rather enjoyable Pacquiao fight

**Flexin** · 11-15-10, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by pat venditto

Pacquiao doesn't have an iron chin. He just usually out speeds most. Manny's body is vulnerable he seems to take headshots well but not body shots. Pacquiao mayweather fight will never happen for business reasons. Pacquiao is willing to fight but mayweather really isn't because he knows his 30 million dollar pay days will be 5 million once he gets a loss if he ever does.

Even with a loss I don't believe Floyds payday drops that much. It comes down to who he is fighting. If he fights another big name he gets another big payday. Fight a tune up and you get a smaller check. Mayweather doesn't have to fight. If he beats Manny he may not even fight again. Who else is there at that point that he will feel like he needs to fight? There could be a rematch clause for both fighters in there.

IF he loss to Manny and fought a rematch he would be paid well again.

Money will not be an issue.

Manny is a very tough fighter. Yes Manny can take a shot but for the most part he doesn't get hit. Floyd has been shook in a fight before but that was one of the few good shots the guy got in on him. You can't hurt what you can't hit.

One of these fighters will be hit more then they are used to getting hit. It will be a great fight I believe. I don't really cares who wins I just want to see this fight.

James

**Flexin** · 11-15-10, 01:30 PM

BTW don't forget that Manny refused to agree to blood testing before the fight. Thats what stopped the first fight. Floyd refused the next one.

James

**NYSportsGuy210** · 11-15-10, 03:01 PM

Pacquiao is right now the best pound-for-pound boxer in the sport. He will clearly be the odds on favorite to beat Floyd Mayweather.

**Socrates** · 11-15-10, 04:33 PM

Pacquaio is on steroids. No way a fighter can move up in weight (we're talking almost 50lbs) and not lose any speed or power. The truth will come out some day, it always does.

Until then, better keep betting on PacRoid before he retires. Eazy money.

**Flexin** · 11-15-10, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Socrates

Pacquaio is on steroids. No way a fighter can move up in weight (we're talking almost 50lbs) and not lose any speed or power. The truth will come out some day, it always does. Until then, better keep betting on PacRoid before he retires. Eazy money.

I thought there was already something said about roids with him years ago?

He is 5'6' and weights 144lbs. He didn't put on 50lbs. He started fighting at the age of 16 and boxed at 107. You do know that most boxers cut weight to fight in a lower weight class right? Now at the age of 31 he is fighting at 144lbs. Find a few people that are 5'6" and see what they weight. Let me know how many weight 94lbs.

I'm not saying he is on them or not but your argument about him being on them because he went up 50lbs (which really was only 37 lbs over 15 years) from when he started fighting is wrong. Do you weight the same as you did when you were 16? I know I don't.

James

**playa420** · 11-15-10, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210

Pacquiao is right now the best pound-for-pound boxer in the sport. He will clearly be the odds on favorite to beat Floyd Mayweather.

i really doubt that, a floyd vs manny line has been up several times and it was either a pick em or floyd as the favorite.

**Flexin** · 11-15-10, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210

Pacquiao is right now the best pound-for-pound boxer in the sport. He will clearly be the odds on favorite to beat Floyd Mayweather.

The odds don't help you stop someone from hitting you in the ring. The odds only matter when it comes to how much money you will make when you pick the winner.

Wasn't Lesnar the favorite for his last fight?

James