I've decided to stay away from this fight and Mendes Swanson fight due to their being no value. Mendes is -400 on my book which is a definite no go seeing as I was only gonna play him at -225 or better! And the Jorgensen Pickett fight isnt even available on paddypower yet for some reason so will just sit back and enjoy the fight I think!
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VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#71Comment -
BIGDAYSBR Aristocracy
- 02-17-10
- 48245
#72I think Joseph Benavidez rolls tonight. Layed a few units at +200.Comment -
Educ8d Degener8SBR MVP
- 01-12-10
- 3177
#73Everybody's thoughts for the likeliest FOTN???
Here's what 5dimes odds are at the moment:
4001 Benavidez/Cruz award winner +250
4003 Pettis/Roller award winner +400
4005 Swanson/Mendes award winner +400
4007 Pickett/Jorgensen award winner +425
4009 Micklewright/Palaszewski award winner +500
4011 Jewtuszko/Njokuani award winner +750
4013 Semerzier/Vasquez award winner +600
4015 Lamas/Jansen award winner +725
4017 Caraway/Paixao award winner +1200
4019 Poirier/Castillo award winner +1300Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#74Everybody's thoughts for the likeliest FOTN???
Here's what 5dimes odds are at the moment:
4001 Benavidez/Cruz award winner +250
4003 Pettis/Roller award winner +400
4005 Swanson/Mendes award winner +400
4007 Pickett/Jorgensen award winner +425
4009 Micklewright/Palaszewski award winner +500
4011 Jewtuszko/Njokuani award winner +750
4013 Semerzier/Vasquez award winner +600
4015 Lamas/Jansen award winner +725
4017 Caraway/Paixao award winner +1200
4019 Poirier/Castillo award winner +1300Comment -
snake11eyesSBR Wise Guy
- 07-28-10
- 618
#75Gotta go with the main event on this one.Comment -
KCJMACSBR High Roller
- 08-03-10
- 133
#76I agree with Snake. 5 rounds, main event, close fight last time.Comment -
EccocideSBR MVP
- 01-12-09
- 2126
#77Everybody's thoughts for the likeliest FOTN???
Here's what 5dimes odds are at the moment:
4001 Benavidez/Cruz award winner +250
4003 Pettis/Roller award winner +400
4005 Swanson/Mendes award winner +400
4007 Pickett/Jorgensen award winner +425
4009 Micklewright/Palaszewski award winner +500
4011 Jewtuszko/Njokuani award winner +750
4013 Semerzier/Vasquez award winner +600
4015 Lamas/Jansen award winner +725
4017 Caraway/Paixao award winner +1200
4019 Poirier/Castillo award winner +1300Comment -
snake11eyesSBR Wise Guy
- 07-28-10
- 618
#78Lamas 29-28 across the board. Great way to start off the card.Comment -
RichardMossSBR MVP
- 11-27-08
- 2162
#79Danny Castillo vs. Dustin Poirier
Official scores: 30-27 (twice) and 29-28 for Castillo, the winner by unanimous decision.
Fredson Paixao vs. Bryan Caraway
Official scores: 29-28 Caraway and 29-28 (twice) for Paixao, the winner by split decision.
Ricardo Lamas vs. Dave Jansen
Official scores: 29-28 across the board for Lamas, the winner by unanimous decision.Comment -
ChairibSBR Wise Guy
- 03-08-10
- 917
#80I apologize for being so late but there's been a boatload of stuff going on.
Both these guys are talented fighters no doubt and I can't believe they haven't been moved over to the UFC yet. I think this fight will be Roller by decision but after watching tape on these guys, it's going to be a lot closer fight than I originally believed.
Roller's strengths are definitely suited towards the grappling aspect in MMA. He reminds me a lot of Ben Askren but with a little better stand up. That's the one thing that worries me about Roller is the fact he'll throw strikes during stand up. He's slow with his hands and doesn't know much about angles as he moves either straight back or straight forward while striking. It could be something that comes back and bites him square in the ass against Pettis.
Roller's grappling is pretty nice. Though his strengths in grappling is definitely his top game from the clinch, to passing guard, as well as side control, and even the full mount. He's crafty as hell the moment it goes from to clinch. Loves working the front headlock and understands how to work off of it. I really like that about his Jiu-Jitsu, that headlock. Specifically the headlock and the full mount. I've had issues with BJJ guys who tend to go for the mount far too early in MMA fights. If you watch Askren's last fight, every time he got that full mount he ended up getting swept. When Roller goes for that full mount but he gets that headlock first. That's huge because it makes it much harder for the guy on the bottom to effectively sweep the guy on the top. Furthermore, that guy on the bottom has to make sure he isn't going to get choked out before he can even think about a proper sweep.
And if you give your back to the guy, you might as well quit. Because he'll get his hooks in and deliver some exceptional ground and pound. Roller's got a great ability to deliver powerful and accurate strikes with his hooks in. And he'll also switch to that figure four body lock and once he does that you're in a lot of trouble.
While Pettis is a striker and has exceptional stand up, his background is TKD and American Kickboxing. That's a big big factor. Because TKD guys don't fight in the clinch and they don't know a whole lot about how to fight out of it. Pettis needs to create some distance and space for his strikes and that is where Pettis' biggest issue against Roller is. His offense practically shuts down when he gets into the clinch. Interestingly enough Pettis will go for a guillotine before striking in the clinch. If Roller can close the distance and clinch up with Pettis pushing him up against the fence it can decide much of the fight. Against the fence Roller can take Pettis down avoiding his closed guard and find himself in side mount or even take Pettis' back.
Pettis' BJJ is nice, while he really hasn't shown much of the top game, it's his guard work that really stands out. That kid has one of the slickest guards I've seen in a long time. He's got a great closed guard but importantly he knows how to work that Rubber Guard as well. If Roller hasn't been training on the Rubber Guard and how to counter it, that could be a serious serious issue. And if Roller does end up in his closed guard it's wouldn't be surprising to see him tap to that triangle choke. Pettis' guard is that good. Pettis has the ability to chain his submissions together and I haven't seen anyone able to flow from an armbar or triangle choke submission attempt so cleanly since Carlos Newton's early MMA days. Roller better hope he ends up in Pettis' half-guard after the takedown because I don't know if he's good enough to pass Pettis' closed guard. If I'm Roller, I might play this fight conservatively and not look to pass unless I'm already in Pettis half-guard and let the ref stand us back up again. What I do NOT do if I'm Roller is look throw punches while in Pettis closed guard.Comment -
babyanniSBR MVP
- 09-23-09
- 1780
#81i'd like to see joe get the w but dont think it will be soComment -
laskerSBR MVP
- 01-27-10
- 1683
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laskerSBR MVP
- 01-27-10
- 1683
#83Maciej Jewtuszko def. Anthony Njokuani via TKO (punches) - Round 1, 1:35
Now THAT is a good way to start the night...Comment -
snake11eyesSBR Wise Guy
- 07-28-10
- 618
#84Dam I didnt get in on that I can't believe it. I was sold on the Njokuani hype. Well at least his price was too high and i didnt lose anything.Comment -
RichardMossSBR MVP
- 11-27-08
- 2162
#85Javier Vazquez vs. Mackens Semerzier
Vazquez by submission
Anthony Njokuani vs. Maciej Jewtuszko
Jewtuszko by TKOComment -
NickBaragonaSBR Wise Guy
- 01-29-09
- 555
#893 Units on Shane Roller (-192)
$66 to win $34.38
3 Units on Dominick Cruz (-215)
$66 to win $30.70
1 Unit with both of them
$22 to win $25.67Comment -
RichardMossSBR MVP
- 11-27-08
- 2162
#90Comment -
NickBaragonaSBR Wise Guy
- 01-29-09
- 555
#91Lol I bet on Bart twice in the past, and he lost both times. So tonight I stay away from him, and he wins. Figures lol.Comment -
RichardMossSBR MVP
- 11-27-08
- 2162
#92Scott Jorgensen vs. Brad Pickett
Official scores: 30-27 across the board for Jorgensen, the winner by unanimous decisionComment -
RichardMossSBR MVP
- 11-27-08
- 2162
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HandjuiceSBR Sharp
- 05-11-10
- 329
#94pettis looking good so far"Real fight don't start till round 13, in round thriteen ya asshole locks up, ya balls get tight, and ya don't wanna go another second, that's when the real fight starts"- Mike MccalumComment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
- 44709
#9510-9 pettisComment -
NickBaragonaSBR Wise Guy
- 01-29-09
- 555
#96Dammit Roller...cmon....Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
- 44709
#97roller is getting desperateComment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
- 44709
#98pettis has so tricks up his sleeve
roller has to get a RNC in round 3Comment -
HandjuiceSBR Sharp
- 05-11-10
- 329
#99c'mon pettis knock this guy out for your boy handjuice"Real fight don't start till round 13, in round thriteen ya asshole locks up, ya balls get tight, and ya don't wanna go another second, that's when the real fight starts"- Mike MccalumComment -
VarkerSBR Sharp
- 04-03-10
- 283
#1002nd round is Roller's.Comment -
WeinketoWarrickSBR MVP
- 05-30-09
- 1698
#101these little guys go balls to the wall.Comment -
NickBaragonaSBR Wise Guy
- 01-29-09
- 555
#102If Roller loses, should I put in an additional 3 Units on Cruz? Gimme advice guys..lolComment -
GoGoGadgetSBR Wise Guy
- 03-18-09
- 570
#103Where was that 3rd round power takedown in the 1st and 2nd. He looked very very very weak.Comment -
stefan084SBR MVP
- 07-21-09
- 1490
#104roller gassed and getting dominated---subbed as i type thisComment -
GoGoGadgetSBR Wise Guy
- 03-18-09
- 570
#105Never seen such a weak wrestler lolComment
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