[redvilla]

hi, new to the forum but long time lurker. I created an account specifically to actually ask this question.

I've been exploring getting into mma sports betting. I do however have a few questions I'd like to clarify,

1/ what is the maximum amount that can be wagered on a single fight? I don't mean the maximum bet size, I mean actual total amount of money that can be realistically wagered. Could I for example make $1000 bets with multiple books and exchanges? I'm guessing that if I bet enough this would eventually move the lines. How quickly would this happen across all sites? If I bet the max and moved the line at one bookmaker will I have time to place bets with other sites before they move their lines?

2/ Traders looking to arb books get limited really quickly. What if I'm making value bets but am a long term winner? Will they also eventually limit my account? If so, how do people get around this? Are there special bookmakers that cater for large bettors? What about the exchange sites? Other than pinnacle, do exchanges also impose betting limits once you are known to be a winning player?

3/ How many sites/venues exist to be able to make substantial wagers on mma fights?

4/ How much would a main card ufc fight (lets say non headliner) be able to absorb before a line is moved significantly. 10k, 20, 50k?

Thanks for any answers.

[turbozed]

hi, new to the forum but long time lurker. I created an account specifically to actually ask this question.

I've been exploring getting into mma sports betting. I do however have a few questions I'd like to clarify,

1/ what is the maximum amount that can be wagered on a single fight? I don't mean the maximum bet size, I mean actual total amount of money that can be realistically wagered. Could I for example make $1000 bets with multiple books and exchanges? I'm guessing that if I bet enough this would eventually move the lines. How quickly would this happen across all sites? If I bet the max and moved the line at one bookmaker will I have time to place bets with other sites before they move their lines?

2/ Traders looking to arb books get limited really quickly. What if I'm making value bets but am a long term winner? Will they also eventually limit my account? If so, how do people get around this? Are there special bookmakers that cater for large bettors? What about the exchange sites? Other than pinnacle, do exchanges also impose betting limits once you are known to be a winning player?

3/ How many sites/venues exist to be able to make substantial wagers on mma fights?

4/ How much would a main card ufc fight (lets say non headliner) be able to absorb before a line is moved significantly. 10k, 20, 50k?

Thanks for any answers.

1. Depends on the profile of the fight. If it's high profile, then some books will let you max wager 15k on a single fight (e.g. Cormier vs Stipe) as long as the line has been out for a while. On the flip side, there are smaller cards where your account may be limited to $20 or $50 on openers which gradually grows to $250-$500 or so come fight time. The size of the event and whether or not you have been flagged will determine how much you move the line.

2. They will limit your account quickly if they know that you are getting good opening lines. Sometimes the book will (intentionally or inintentionally) put out a bad line. Once they've identified the bettors who jumped on the line, they have a net full of people that are ripe for limiting and to be used as de factor linesmakers by letting them move lines with small bets (as mentioned in #1). I'm surprised this hasn't worked against them because all it takes is a handful of these limited accounts to band together and swing the line one direction heavily before dropping the hammer on the other side. I don't see why exchanges would limit players since you are winning from other players and they earn a commission. Winning from books means winning 'their' money so they would limit.

3. Hundreds from online books and exchanges, to brick and mortar books like in Vegas, to local books.

4. Depends on the specific fight and what you mean by 'significantly.' But lines move with less volume than other major sports (NFL, NBA, NCAAF).

[getlucky2win]

5dimes will severely limit u

[Degenregen]

hi, new to the forum but long time lurker. I created an account specifically to actually ask this question.

I've been exploring getting into mma sports betting. I do however have a few questions I'd like to clarify,

1/ what is the maximum amount that can be wagered on a single fight? I don't mean the maximum bet size, I mean actual total amount of money that can be realistically wagered. Could I for example make $1000 bets with multiple books and exchanges? I'm guessing that if I bet enough this would eventually move the lines. How quickly would this happen across all sites? If I bet the max and moved the line at one bookmaker will I have time to place bets with other sites before they move their lines?

2/ Traders looking to arb books get limited really quickly. What if I'm making value bets but am a long term winner? Will they also eventually limit my account? If so, how do people get around this? Are there special bookmakers that cater for large bettors? What about the exchange sites? Other than pinnacle, do exchanges also impose betting limits once you are known to be a winning player?

3/ How many sites/venues exist to be able to make substantial wagers on mma fights?

4/ How much would a main card ufc fight (lets say non headliner) be able to absorb before a line is moved significantly. 10k, 20, 50k?

Thanks for any answers.

1. Depends on the book. Some of the biggest books will let you bet the "max" as many times as you want in my experience, even after being limited, you can get a significant amount in. Be advised there's usually a wait time after betting the limit, where the line is adjusted, afterwards you can bet again with the adjusted line if you want to. I've gotten 20k on a fight, betting 1k at a time after being limited at one of the bigger books. This was a main card fight. Undercard fights for the UFC at these same books that limited my main card fights to 1k were limited to 500 for me. Usually the line would move 5 cents after every max limit bet. As far as I'm aware, the actual limit to how much you want to bet depends on your willingness to sit in front of the computer betting the limit each time and if you want to at the new price.

Other books have a hard limit, where once you bet the max, that's all you can bet. And after you get limited, beware you will only be able to bet 5-25 bucks a fight.

Also props have the softest lines, and as such, expect to have crippling limits placed on these if you do well with them enough to take a few withdrawals. Even at the biggest books, you will have double digit limits at best.

If you're looking to hammer the max across multiple sites at once, you can do that. I have been successful loading up a few sites at once and betting the max all at once within 10secs or so. Since the software isn't connected it should be ok. If you are trying to do the same with sister sites of the same sportsbook though, IIRC that will not work.

Also as another poster said, openers have very low limits compared to limits the day of. You should be fine getting as much money as you want on a fight if you wait til close to fight time.

2. If you win, you get limited in my experience, at every book except maybe Bookmaker? I forget what they say about winners on Bookmaker. You can win at least 6 digits without getting limited if you don't bet the exotic stuff on BM. Even if you are limited, you can still get a decent sized wager doing what I said in #1 on the A books that don't have hard limits. Pinnacle and exchanges may be ok, I don't have experience with these.

4. Hell if you're limited to 5 bucks, you can move the line betting the max of 5 bucks, haha. At least in the short term and on that specific site. If the line gets off thanks to the movement, I suspect they leave it after the change or move it back after a review, or if someone bets the other side to balance things out it will move back as well. In my opinion, you can get a significant wager on the moneyline of any of the UFC fights if you want to. Over 5 digits though, I'm not sure. The only time limits really kill you and make it so you will disregard lines on something is on props. I think you'll always be able to get a few K on the side of a fight, and most likely low 5 digits will be pretty easy to do as well. Props on the other hand, you will be betting 5 bucks and moving a line 15 cents each time, you can imagine why it won't be worth your while there.

Good luck, I wouldn't worry about limits until you get there, it's hard enough to do that, and keep winning even at the new limits. If you lose your ass off after winning you can get delimited too.