UFC 260: Miocic vs. Ngannou 2 (March 27, 2021)

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  • Hugo de Naranja
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    • 04-14-16
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    #71
    Originally posted by magpie878
    Do you see any way that Stipe wins outside of a decision?
    Knockout. Do you see any way Ngannou wins outside of a KO in the first 10 minutes?
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    • PaperTrail07
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      • 08-29-08
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      #72
      Fixed it--- Who you on Hugo----Stipe for me all the way....Ngannou just not well rounded enough for me...
      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
      Knockout. Do you see any way Ngannou wins outside of a KO in the first 3.5 minutes?
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      • Hugo de Naranja
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        • 04-14-16
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        #73
        I've got Stipe (+170) with a R1 Ngannou hedge
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        • PaperTrail07
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          • 08-29-08
          • 20423

          #74
          Takedown and G+P ===otherwise NO.....Stipe is smart...I don't see him messing with Francis for a solid 3- 4 minutes....
          Originally posted by magpie878
          Do you see any way that Stipe wins outside of a decision?
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          • PaperTrail07
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            • 08-29-08
            • 20423

            #75
            Love it
            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
            I've got Stipe (+170) with a R1 Ngannou hedge
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            • Thrilla
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              • 03-10-15
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              #76
              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
              I've got Stipe (+170) with a R1 Ngannou hedge
              Maybe hedge solely with KO/TKO just to be more effective also Nganou still had lil bit of energy in R2 last time. Maybe add R3 there too assuming the improvements, will probably pace himself better.
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              • Thrilla
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                • 03-10-15
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                #77
                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                Knockout. Do you see any way Ngannou wins outside of a KO in the first 10 minutes?
                Stipe by Dec and by Sub best value. Ngannou gave his back once or twice if I remember correctly. What's the odds for Stipe by Sub? Should be insane.
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                • Thrilla
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                  • 03-10-15
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                  #78
                  Ooh aaah Stipe even attempted and armbar in the early going
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                  • Thrilla
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                    • 03-10-15
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                    Fixed it--- Who you on Hugo----Stipe for me all the way....Ngannou just not well rounded enough for me...
                    Stipe the dog what are we missing here considering the dominant win in the first fight? Don't understand.
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                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                      • 04-14-16
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Thrilla
                      Maybe hedge solely with KO/TKO just to be more effective also Nganou still had lil bit of energy in R2 last time. Maybe add R3 there too assuming the improvements, will probably pace himself better.
                      I'm seeing (-105) on that. Not enough value to take it was a hedge imo.
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                      • Thrilla
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                        • 03-10-15
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                        I'm seeing (-105) on that. Not enough value to take it was a hedge imo.
                        Yeah I meant the individual early rounds and method (exclude the sub)

                        Not entire fight. -105 is for the entire fight right? That's complete crap odds.
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                        • JC2008
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                          • 02-27-08
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by Thrilla
                          Stipe the dog what are we missing here considering the dominant win in the first fight? Don't understand.
                          - He's only fought one opponent since, even if it was three times against the same person. Cormier looked like shit and his cardio was garbage. Stipe took some bombs since and I'm not too convinced he's gonna have the same durability. Stipe is also a bit leaner. It's at the APEX, Stipe's stick and move boxing may not be QUITE as effective. Oh and Francis has 30 lbs. on him which doesn't help. I also want Stipe to win so Francis will probably win lol.
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                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                            • 04-14-16
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                            #83
                            Originally posted by Thrilla
                            Yeah I meant the individual early rounds and method (exclude the sub)

                            Not entire fight. -105 is for the entire fight right? That's complete crap odds.
                            Ah I see. Yeah R2 KO/TKO, I'd consider.
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                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                              • 04-14-16
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                              #84
                              Originally posted by JC2008
                              - He's only fought one opponent since, even if it was three times against the same person. Cormier looked like shit and his cardio was garbage. Stipe took some bombs since and I'm not too convinced he's gonna have the same durability. Stipe is also a bit leaner. It's at the APEX, Stipe's stick and move boxing may not be QUITE as effective. Oh and Francis has 30 lbs. on him which doesn't help. I also want Stipe to win so Francis will probably win lol.
                              Definitely not man. Not sure what fights you were watching my guy.
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                              • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                • 01-02-12
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                                #85
                                I like Stipe but Francis improved way more than the last time they fought.

                                Can Stipe keep him down for 5 rounds? If he doesn't he'll get KO'd
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                                • thedenthead
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                                  • 05-14-15
                                  • 826

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                  I like Stipe but Francis improved way more than the last time they fought.

                                  Can Stipe keep him down for 5 rounds? If he doesn't he'll get KO'd
                                  Improved where? How do you know that exactly? Just media saying it? Lol
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                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                    • 04-14-16
                                    • 14140

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by thedenthead
                                    Improved where? How do you know that exactly? Just media saying it? Lol
                                    Did you see my question about your free bet?
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                                    • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                      • 08-25-08
                                      • 7237

                                      #88

                                      Stipe Miocic and Francis Ngannou

                                      Tyron Woodley and Vicente Luque


                                      Sean O'Malley and Thomas Almeida


                                      Gillian Robertson and Miranda Maverick


                                      Jamie Mullarkey and Khama Worthy


                                      Alonzo Menifield and Fabio Cherant
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                                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                                        • 04-14-16
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                                        #89
                                        Thanks as always for your contribution Locky. Much appreciated.
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                                        • UncleChael
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                                          • 10-30-13
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          Stipe better lean on his wrestling in this rematch...

                                          Francis Ngannou by Round 1 TKO/KO.
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                                          • Sanity Check
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                                            • 03-30-13
                                            • 10962

                                            #91
                                            Ngannou's command of the english language.

                                            Puts americans like Stipe and I to shame.


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                                            • Thrilla
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                                              • 03-10-15
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                                              #92
                                              Listen to Ngannou interviews to relax and fall asleep. Such a soothing voice. ASMR effect I believe is what it's called.

                                              Last edited by Thrilla; 03-26-21, 06:40 PM.
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                                              • Thrilla
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                                                • 03-10-15
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                                                #93
                                                I'm going to bed. Ngannou did it again. Only had to listen for 4 minutes this time. Goodnight SBR
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                                                • Sanity Check
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                                                  • 03-30-13
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                                                  #94
                                                  Drinking smart water on UFC embeddeds might be one indication.

                                                  Your MMA nutritionist isn't worth shit btw.





                                                  Water acidity is important.

                                                  Smart water has some of the worst independent test scores iirc.
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                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                    • 04-14-16
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                                                    #95
                                                    Left Hook Luque is coming for that Woodley chin.
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                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                      • 12-10-09
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                                                      #96
                                                      Luque and Stipe for me as well. I am concerned that Stipe is getting up in age now and could get clipped on the chin in this second go around though.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        • 12-10-09
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                                                        #97
                                                        Luque wins by KO against Tryon Woodley +275.. There is a gift for you boys...

                                                        Woodley is old now and that chin is suspect. Bank it..

                                                        Luque not afraid of black guys ..








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                                                        • hankcream
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                                                          • 06-30-10
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                                                          #98
                                                          Almeida looked washed up on the scales & face-offs. Woodley must have been taking better vitamins when he was in Strikeforce & early UFC years, his body looks alot softer now and no intensity.

                                                          2 units O'Malley by KO/TKO/DQ +100
                                                          1 unit Luque by KO/TKO/DQ + 275
                                                          1.25 units Bukaukus / Oleksijak won't start Rd 3 -125
                                                          .5 unit Gooden +205
                                                          3.9 units Ngannu -130
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                                                          • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                            • 01-02-12
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by thedenthead
                                                            Improved where? How do you know that exactly? Just media saying it? Lol
                                                            Most important thing in fighting, his mindset
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                                                            • Allure
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                                                              • 08-18-10
                                                              • 7606

                                                              #100
                                                              Barriault over Azaitar is definitely worth a shot at reasonable odds.
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                                                              • hankcream
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                                                                • 06-30-10
                                                                • 2048

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Allure
                                                                Barriault over Azaitar is definitely worth a shot at reasonable odds.
                                                                Be careful if it goes to decision, a lot of funny money behind the Azaitar boys. Apparently the UFC just happened to forgive their little incident on Fight Island
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                                                                • Thrilla
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                                                                  • 03-10-15
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                                                                  #102


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                                                                  • Sanity Check
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                                                                    #103




                                                                    Ngannou gym stories.



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                                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                      • 04-14-16
                                                                      • 14140

                                                                      #104
                                                                      UFC 260: Miocic vs. Ngannou II Picks:
                                                                      Marc-Andre Barriault Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                                                                      Omar Morales Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
                                                                      Michal Oleksiejczuk Round 1 KO (Punches)
                                                                      Abubakar Nurmagomedov Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                                                                      Alonzo Menifield Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                                                                      Khama Worthy Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                                                                      Miranda Maverick Round 1 TKO (Elbows and Punches)
                                                                      Sean O’Malley Round 1 TKO (Wheel Kick and Punches)
                                                                      Vicente Luque Round 2 TKO (Punches)
                                                                      Stipe Miocic Unanimous Decision (49-46 x3)
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                                                                      • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 04-14-16
                                                                        • 14140

                                                                        #105
                                                                        UFC 260: Miocic vs. Ngannou II

                                                                        Fight Pass Early Prelims:

                                                                        Fight #1: Barriault vs. A. Azaitar
                                                                        Barriault (-125) 0.5u to win 0.4u

                                                                        ESPN Prelims:

                                                                        Fight #2: Morales vs. S. Young
                                                                        No Bet

                                                                        Fight #3: Oleksiejczuk vs. Bukauskas
                                                                        Oleksiejczuk (-138) 1.75u to win 1.27u
                                                                        Oleksiejczuk+Bukauskas Under 2.5 (-142) 0.5u to win 0.35u
                                                                        Oleksiejczuk KO/TKO (+210) 0.25u
                                                                        Oleksiejczuk Round 1 KO/TKO (+486) 0.5u

                                                                        Hedge(s):
                                                                        Bukauskas Round 2 (+1000) 0.1u
                                                                        Bukauskas Round 3 (+1400) 0.1u

                                                                        Fight #4: A. Nurmagomedov vs. Gooden
                                                                        A. Nurmagomedov Decision (+120) 0.25u

                                                                        Fight #5: Menifield vs. Cherant (DEBUT)
                                                                        No Bet

                                                                        Main Card:

                                                                        Fight #6: Worthy vs. Mullarkey
                                                                        Worthy Decision (+460) 0.25u

                                                                        Hedge:
                                                                        Mullarkey KO/TKO (+500) 0.25u

                                                                        Fight #7: Maverick vs. Robertson
                                                                        Maverick+Robertson Ends in Submission (+270) 0.4u
                                                                        Maverick ITD (+320) 0.35u
                                                                        Maverick Round 1 (+900) 0.1u
                                                                        Maverick Submission (+1100) 0.1u

                                                                        Fight #8: O’Malley vs. Almeida
                                                                        O’Malley KO/TKO (+170) 2u

                                                                        Hedge(s):
                                                                        Almeida Scorecards = No Action (+250) 0.3u
                                                                        Almeida ITD (+400) 0.1u

                                                                        Fight #9: Luque vs. Woodley
                                                                        Luque+Woodley Under 2.5 (+130) 0.35u
                                                                        Luque KO/TKO (+303) 1u

                                                                        Fight #10: Miocic (C) vs. Ngannou
                                                                        Miocic (+170) 1.5u
                                                                        Miocic Wins, Most Takedowns, Most SS (+250) 0.2u

                                                                        Hedge:
                                                                        Ngannou Round 1 (+243) 0.7u

                                                                        Multi-Event Parlays:
                                                                        Ankalaev/O’Malley (-115) 1.15u to win 1u
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