UFC Fight Night (November 18, 2017) Tybura vs Overeem

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  • TPowell
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    • 02-21-08
    • 18842

    #1
    UFC Fight Night (November 18, 2017) Tybura vs Overeem
    This isn't meant to be the official thread just want to get some thoughts down.

    Keep in mind I started watching film expecting to play Wieczorek over the absolutely awful Hamilton but I'm starting to have second thoughts for sure. Have watched Adam Wieczorek's last 3 fights including his big win over Zoumanan Cisse (the guy that beat Francis Ngannou). What I can tell you for sure is that this guy is WAY too comfortable being pushed up against the cage and his takedown defense against bigger HW's isn't good. Cisse got him down multiple times early and bombed away but couldn't land the big GnP shots. He was definitely losing the round until mid way through when he got a well timed TD and showcased some pretty good BJJ to attack with subs and strikes until he got the finish. Same deal in his last fight, he was pushed against the cage for a while and then a guy missed some type of dumb head and arm throw and he landed on top in good position and got the sub quickly. His striking is very Muay Thai based as most Polish fighters are. It isn't bad but nothing special for sure and he seems to be very inactive on the feet and easily forced to fight off his back foot. In that same respect, he tends to be more willing to throw later on in fights so possibly a slow starter. Will have to see if there is more tape past round one on him. He's also a smaller frame type of HW. In his last fight, he was 227 pounds against Ernesto Papa who was 224. In the Cisse fight, he was 243 and outweighed by over 20 pounds. Against Wiwatowski, he was 227 pounds again and his oppponent was a little under 230 himself. Just finished the Wiwatowski fight that was 1.5 minutes from going the distance and he won with an armlock from the bottom. His BJJ is slick but if he doesn't hit that, he is in a tight decision with this guy that has been beaten in 1 round by 3 fighters that will never ever see the UFC.
  • TPowell
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    • 02-21-08
    • 18842

    #2
    Another thing to be aware of in the Coulter/Tuivasa fight is that Tuivasa is NOT undefeated in reality. He was beaten in 2013 by Peter Graham and finished. The reason it didn't count is it wasn't an official MMA fight but the only real differences were the round length (2.5 minutes I think) and you could only grapple for 30 seconds. He started off really well nailing Graham and nearly finishing him but he gassed badly and was eventually finished out on his feet. Tuivasa fought 7 times as a pro boxer and went 5-2. Interestingly enough, he went 5-2 and 6 fights were one night tournament fights. He won the 1st and 2nd rounds both times but was then beaten by decision in the final fight. His technique isn't bad on the feet but he tends to get sloppy lunging in. He uses knees and elbows pretty well at times but his ground game is laughable. I watched him go for a head and arm throw and end up on the bottom in one of his last couple fights. He was able to scramble back up somehow but I think a lot had to do with the quality of competition. He won his last fight by a weird retirement after round one because the other guy said he couldn't see out of nowhere really. In his corner, you see him huffing and puffing horribly before he knew it was over.
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    • Hugo de Naranja
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      • 04-14-16
      • 14140

      #3
      Isn't this card Werdum vs. Tybura? Overeem is facing Ngannou next month
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      • TPowell
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        • 02-21-08
        • 18842

        #4
        I see Coulter as a similar type of fighter as Tuivasa but I think Coulter is certainly the quicker guy in this fight. Coulter should NOT be fighting at 265. The guy is 6'0 and has made 205 and 187 for MW before. He typically comes into fights around 240 or so (give or take 5 pounds) but he'll be giving up some size to Tuivasa who literally has to cut weight to get down to 265 at 6'2. Tuivasa is only 24 years old to Coulter's 35 but Coulter has only been a pro fighter about a year or so longer. This is the perfect fight to stay away from IMO. Coulter got his leg chewed up last fight for sure but he was gassed and out on his feet cardio wise as well in the 2nd round. With Tuivasa, ANY amount of clinching/grinding will have him falling down gassing as well after 1 round. When they gas, I think you have to give the edge to Tuivasa because he should be the more powerful striker but Coulter has a ton of heart. I could definitely see this fight seeing the back end of round two and depending on the odds, I may make a small play on it but these guys are so unathletic and out of shape that one could fall down from exhaustion and quit.
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        • GoBlue77
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          • 03-20-11
          • 9166

          #5
          come on bro lol. Reem aint fighting him you fool
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          • TPowell
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            • 02-21-08
            • 18842

            #6
            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
            Isn't this card Werdum vs. Tybura? Overeem is facing Ngannou next month
            It is. Was scrambling to get thoughts down and just started typing out a title line.
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            • TPowell
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              • 02-21-08
              • 18842

              #7
              I'll project this line as Tuivasa -150 but I expect it to open closer to a PK due to Coulter showcasing a ton of heart against a very dumb Chase Sherman in that last fight.
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              • Demonata
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                • 07-12-11
                • 25829

                #8
                This is the dumbest thread
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                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                  • 03-11-11
                  • 29267

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Demonata
                  This is the dumbest thread
                  of course it is, TPowell started it.
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                  • TPowell
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                    • 02-21-08
                    • 18842

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Demonata
                    This is the dumbest thread
                    Are you kidding me? Because i put the wrong name in the subject.
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                    • firekillex
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                      • 09-18-13
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                      #11
                      sbr delete this thread
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                      • Karmaphobia
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                        • 06-24-14
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by TPowell
                        Are you kidding me? Because i put the wrong name in the subject.
                        Nope, but it didn’t help
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                        • TPowell
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                          • 02-21-08
                          • 18842

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Karmaphobia
                          Nope, but it didn’t help
                          Then wtf is the issue?
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                          • turbozed
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                            • 10-15-08
                            • 2435

                            #14
                            I'll post a new thread just to be safe. I'd like to talk about the next event but nobody seems to want to post in this thread.

                            New thread: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...australia.html
                            Last edited by turbozed; 11-13-17, 10:53 PM.
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