UFC 210: Cormier vs. Johnson 2 (April 08, 2017)

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    • 03-30-13
    • 10962

    #141
    Originally posted by JIBBBY
    Yep, as usual all 3 favorites should hit.. Manhoef has a chance at the KO but I don't think he gets it...
    I don't remember seeing Manhoef and Carvalho's first fight.

    All 3 sherdog judges scored 4/5 rounds for Manhoef, even if Carvalho was awarded the fight by the judges.



    The Pearl Gonzalez vs Cynthia Calvillo fight is back on btw~
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    • UncleChael
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      • 10-30-13
      • 3979

      #142
      #PrayForCormier
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      • Sato
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        • 07-10-12
        • 1201

        #143
        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
        That "strange looking short punch" is called an uppercut.
        Yes. I didnt remember it being an uppercut.
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        • GunShard
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          • 03-05-10
          • 10026

          #144
          Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
          cagey sheet going on at the weigh ins...

          This explains why the public just dumped their money on Johnson to a favorite.
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          • Hugo de Naranja
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            • 04-14-16
            • 14140

            #145
            Pretty much all locked and loaded for tomorrow's fights. GL gents
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            • JIBBBY
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              • 12-10-09
              • 83691

              #146
              Originally posted by GunShard
              This explains why the public just dumped their money on Johnson to a favorite.
              I like it... May hit DC again if the odds keep get better. He'll be ready by tomorrow night to put a ass whooping on Rumble...
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              • hwgfb
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                • 11-27-15
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                #147
                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                DC was pushing down on the towel with both hands which made him lighter.. That's how he made the weight..

                There was tension on the towel.. Sneaky trick but it worked... ..
                YES HE WAS!! YOU SEEN THAT SHIT TOO!!
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                • snapperman2
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                  • 08-19-10
                  • 2078

                  #148
                  It looked a little like Daniel Cormier was pushing down on the towel a little during the weigh-in. Do you think that that could make him seem a couple of pounds lighter?
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                  • GoBlue77
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                    • 03-20-11
                    • 9166

                    #149
                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                    All in on DC myself... Rumble knows he can't out wrestle or out Cardio DC, he's gonna come out swinging again because Rumble is not a boxer and is not gonna stick and move for 5 rounds.. NO WAY.. It's land the big shot early on or bust for Rumble again..

                    When you get man handled and out worked like Rumble did in the first fight things aren't likely to change a year later in the rematch..

                    I'm betting the house on DC... Rumble doesn't land the lucky punch I don't think.. DC is gonna be the bigger dude as well..
                    rumble can't be hurt on the feet and knows DC will try to dryhump him, knows his gameplan and you bet the house on DC. well thats interesting. DC will provide zero surprises to Rumble, I wouldn't feel confident betting large on either to be honest
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                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                      • 04-14-16
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by snapperman2
                      It looked a little like Daniel Cormier was pushing down on the towel a little during the weigh-in. Do you think that that could make him seem a couple of pounds lighter?
                      Yes and yes. It's an old wrestling trick.
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                      • firekillex
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                        • 09-18-13
                        • 6420

                        #151
                        rumble cant be hurt on the feet? huh
                        any person can be hurt on the feet lol... cormier isnt a slouch on the feet at all hes actually a great dirty boxer
                        obviously rumble has the striking advantage but its not a complete mismatch

                        cormier can win a ground and pound tko, decision or submission again he has many avenues to victory , rumble basically has a ko/tko to win thats his only avenue imo for a 5 round fight with somebody so aggressive like cormier
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                          • 04-14-16
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                          #152
                          Originally posted by firekillex
                          rumble cant be hurt on the feet? huh
                          any person can be hurt on the feet lol... cormier isnt a slouch on the feet at all hes actually a great dirty boxer
                          obviously rumble has the striking advantage but its not a complete mismatch

                          cormier can win a ground and pound tko, decision or submission again he has many avenues to victory , rumble basically has a ko/tko to win thats his only avenue imo for a 5 round fight with somebody so aggressive like cormier
                          I think DC has the best clinch uppercuts in the game.
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                          • JIBBBY
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                            • 12-10-09
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                            #153
                            Originally posted by GoBlue77
                            rumble can't be hurt on the feet and knows DC will try to dryhump him, knows his gameplan and you bet the house on DC. well thats interesting. DC will provide zero surprises to Rumble, I wouldn't feel confident betting large on either to be honest
                            Both have great chins, DC has the cardio and wrestling advantage.. We've seen Rumble gas and quit in fights, DC we have not as DC has heart and won't quit.. DC is the champ too..

                            All in on DC.. Fock it!!!!
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                            • firekillex
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                              #154
                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                              I think DC has the best clinch uppercuts in the game.
                              agreed his build / wrestling clinch sets him up perfect because hes usually the shorter guy he can get the uppercuts clean and from deep in the ground for maximum power
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                              • slikec
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by firekillex
                                agreed his build / wrestling clinch sets him up perfect because hes usually the shorter guy he can get the uppercuts clean and from deep in the ground for maximum power
                                We seen that so many times vs Gustaffson. Damn that was the difference in my opinion that cost Swede the match
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                                • JIBBBY
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                                  • 12-10-09
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                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                  I think DC has the best clinch uppercuts in the game.
                                  Even not in the clinch and when he misses people drop ..

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                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                    • 04-14-16
                                    • 14140

                                    #157
                                    Cummins has one of the worst chins ever lol
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                                    • KushMoney
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                                      • 07-11-11
                                      • 658

                                      #158
                                      I'm taking the worst bets ever today.

                                      Taking Rumble -125 and Weidman even

                                      both bets seem like very negative expected value bets. Books trying to lure action on the other sides?

                                      Rumble seems like -ev because he already lost to DC and has essentially less paths to victory.

                                      Weidman seems like -ev as the books should have given him an underdog price instead he opened as a slight favorite. He's on a 2 fight loss streak while Gegard is on a winning streak.


                                      300 on weidman 750 on Rumble
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                                      • KushMoney
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                                        • 07-11-11
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                                        #159
                                        In my vision I see DC fighting smart early on but getting comfortable overall with his striking while Rumble wastes energy stopping the takedown and reversing position against the fence. Due to a dominating first round I see DC attempting to grt loose on his feet and trying less for takedowns and more for dirty boxing against the cage in round 2. He doesn't wanna be a boring fighter that everyone hates. That will be his downfall as Rumble will do a lot more landing due to the fact that he isn't wasting energy stopping takedowns. Rumble lands a big punch to the face of DC and in the end gets the stoppage.



                                        Gegard is all sorts of stupid confident and ive seen this play out before with many fighters... they are focused more on money and their next contract then the fighter in front of them. This is an absolute must-win for Weidman so he's going to do whatever it takes to get the job done.


                                        Gegard = Bad Karma talking about money shit talking badly about the UFC it never ends well like this.

                                        Weidman has done nothing wrong but always fight the best 2nd best or 3rd best guy every.single.time.


                                        Enough talking good luck everyone.
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                                        • JIBBBY
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                                          • 12-10-09
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                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                          Cummins has one of the worst chins ever lol
                                          Yep thinking of fading him but just not sure? How are you playing it Hugo? Right now I only have this Wont Go Distance bet pending...

                                          I figure something should give one way or the other before the final bell.. Jan getting pounded out on the ground or Cummins getting KO'd..

                                          Slight chance Cummins could wrestle and lay and pray to a decision win but I'm leaning that doesn't happen.. I could be wrong though, this fight had me scratching my head from the very start..

                                          $100.00 $105.00 Pending 4/8/17 8:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1804 Fight won’t go 3 round distance +105* vs Blachowicz / Cummins goes 3 rd distance

                                          Props in play IMO....

                                          1829 Blachowicz wins by TKO/KO
                                          +190
                                          1805 Blachowicz wins inside distance
                                          +164
                                          1811 Cummins wins by 3 round decision
                                          +130

                                          FS1



                                          Patrick
                                          Cummins
                                          "Durkin"
                                          vs
                                          Jan
                                          Blachowicz

                                          UNITED STATES
                                          Country
                                          POLAND

                                          8-4-0
                                          Record
                                          19-6-0

                                          50%
                                          KO/TKO
                                          26%

                                          25%
                                          SUB
                                          37%

                                          25%
                                          DEC
                                          37%

                                          74 in
                                          Height
                                          74 in

                                          205 lbs
                                          Weight
                                          205 lbs

                                          76 in
                                          Reach
                                          78 in

                                          43 in
                                          Leg Reach
                                          44 in
                                          Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-08-17, 11:00 AM.
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                                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                                            • 04-14-16
                                            • 14140

                                            #161
                                            I think you highlighted all the props that I considered. Bookies have this fight nailed so there's not much value on it and I'd stick with the Won't Go Distance prop you already have. I took a few small long shots and played it like this.

                                            Fight #5: Cummins vs. Blachowicz
                                            Cummins KO/TKO (+820) .25u
                                            Cummins Round 3 (+2450) .25u

                                            Hedge:
                                            Blachowicz Round 1 (+433) .5u
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                                            • Shagdogy
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                                              • 06-16-10
                                              • 3564

                                              #162
                                              DC just doesn't look right at these weigh ins. Looks like the cut has been rough on him. Is this gonna make his chin a bit more touchy? Harder time recovering?
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                                              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by KushMoney
                                                In my vision I see DC fighting smart early on but getting comfortable overall with his striking while Rumble wastes energy stopping the takedown and reversing position against the fence. Due to a dominating first round I see DC attempting to grt loose on his feet and trying less for takedowns and more for dirty boxing against the cage in round 2. He doesn't wanna be a boring fighter that everyone hates. That will be his downfall as Rumble will do a lot more landing due to the fact that he isn't wasting energy stopping takedowns. Rumble lands a big punch to the face of DC and in the end gets the stoppage.



                                                Gegard is all sorts of stupid confident and ive seen this play out before with many fighters... they are focused more on money and their next contract then the fighter in front of them. This is an absolute must-win for Weidman so he's going to do whatever it takes to get the job done.


                                                Gegard = Bad Karma talking about money shit talking badly about the UFC it never ends well like this.

                                                Weidman has done nothing wrong but always fight the best 2nd best or 3rd best guy every.single.time.


                                                Enough talking good luck everyone.
                                                How is it bad karma or shit talking to speak the truth?
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                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                  • 83691

                                                  #164
                                                  This is how I'm playing the card... GL fellas..

                                                  Most bets $100 as usual, bets do increase in the main card as usual also.... Too lazy to copy and paste them all..

                                                  1) Magomed by sub
                                                  2) Aldana straight and by (Ko for small)
                                                  3) Emmit straight and by (Ko for small)
                                                  4) Gillespie by Dec
                                                  5) Cummins/Jan fight won't go the distance..
                                                  6) Burros by Dec
                                                  7) Usman by dec/ hedged for profit with Strickland by KO
                                                  8) Jury ITD
                                                  9) Ill Wil Brooks by Dec/ hedged Do Brox by sub
                                                  10) Cote Straight/ hedged Alves ITD
                                                  11) Gonzales by sub VERY SMALL.. This fight is a pass basically..
                                                  12) Mousasi straight and by KO
                                                  13) DC straight (LARGE) $500 on all books.. No hedge...
                                                  Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-08-17, 12:51 PM.
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                                                  • Shagdogy
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                                                    #165
                                                    Been pouring over this card this week. Having trouble committing to anything. I'm on Gillespie and Burgos right now and that's it.
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                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                      • 04-14-16
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                                                      #166
                                                      Looks like we played a lot of stuff similarly. GL bud!
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                                                      • Pinoy-T-X
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                                                        #167
                                                        Jury/Usman parlay for me.
                                                        GL guys
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                                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                          • 04-14-16
                                                          • 14140

                                                          #168
                                                          UFC 210: Cormier vs. Johnson II Picks:
                                                          Magomed Bibulatov Round 2 Submission (Armbar)
                                                          Katlyn Chookagian Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                                                          Josh Emmett Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                                                          Gregor Gillespie Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                                                          Patrick Cummins Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                                                          Shane Burgos Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                                                          Kamaru Usman Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                                                          Myles Jury Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                          Charles Oliveira Round 1 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
                                                          Patrick Cote Round 2 TKO (Punches)
                                                          Cynthia Calvillo Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                          Gegard Mousasi Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                                                          Daniel Cormier Round 4 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
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                                                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                            • 04-14-16
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                                                            #169
                                                            UFC 210: Cormier vs. Johnson II Draftkings Double Up Lineup:
                                                            Magomed Bibulatov ($9,500)
                                                            Shane Burgos ($8,900)
                                                            Gregor Gillespie ($8,600)
                                                            Gegard Mousasi ($8,300)
                                                            Thiago Alves ($7,700)
                                                            Sean Strickland ($7,000)

                                                            Risk: 1u

                                                            UFC 210: Cormier vs. Johnson II Draftkings Tournament Lineup:

                                                            Magomed Bibulatov ($9,500)
                                                            Shane Burgos ($8,900)
                                                            Gegard Mousasi ($8,300)
                                                            Anthony Johnson ($8,100)
                                                            Patrick Cummins ($8,000)
                                                            Charles Oliveira ($7,200)

                                                            Risk: .2u
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                                                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                              • 04-14-16
                                                              • 14140

                                                              #170
                                                              UFC 210: Cormier vs. Johnson II

                                                              Fight Pass Prelims:

                                                              Fight #1: Bibulatov (DEBUT) vs. Lausa
                                                              Bibulatov Submission (+585) .5u

                                                              Fight #2: Chookagian vs. Aldana
                                                              Chookagian KO/TKO (+770) .5u
                                                              Chookagian Round 3 (+1825) .5u

                                                              Hedge:
                                                              Aldana ITD (+525) 1u

                                                              Fight #3: Emmett vs. Green (DEBUT)
                                                              Green Decision (+350) .5u

                                                              Fight #4: Gillespie vs. Holbrook
                                                              Gillespie -3.5 (+170) 2u
                                                              Gillespie ITD (+501) .5u

                                                              Hedge(s):
                                                              Holbrook Submission (+470) 1u
                                                              Holbrook Decision (+815) .5u

                                                              Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

                                                              Fight #5: Cummins vs. Blachowicz
                                                              Cummins KO/TKO (+820) .25u
                                                              Cummins Round 3 (+2450) .25u

                                                              Hedge:
                                                              Blachowicz Round 1 (+433) .5u

                                                              Fight #6: Rosa vs. Burgos
                                                              Burgos -3.5 (-115) 1.15u to win 1u
                                                              Burgos ITD (+171) 1u
                                                              Burgos Round 1 (+400) .5u

                                                              Fight #7: Usman vs. Strickland
                                                              Usman -3.5 (+120) 1u

                                                              Hedge:
                                                              Strickland Decision (+615) .5u

                                                              Fight #8: Jury vs. De La Torre
                                                              Jury ITD (+100) 1u
                                                              Jury+De La Torre Under 1.5 (+160) 2u

                                                              Main Card:

                                                              Fight #9: Brooks vs. Oliveira
                                                              Oliveira (+250) 1u
                                                              Oliveira ITD (+380) 1u
                                                              Oliveira Submission (+475) .5u

                                                              Hedge(s):
                                                              Brooks ITD (+254) 1u
                                                              Brooks Round 3 (+1100) .25u

                                                              Fight #10: Alves vs. Cote
                                                              Alves+Cote Under 2.5 (+165) 1u
                                                              Cote KO/TKO (+504) .25u

                                                              Fight #11: Calvillo vs. Gonzalez (DEBUT)
                                                              Calvillo ITD (+206) .5u
                                                              Calvillo Submission (+350) 1u

                                                              Hedge:
                                                              Gonzalez ITD (+560) .25u

                                                              Fight #12: Mousasi vs. Weidman
                                                              Mousasi (-115) 2.3u to win 2u
                                                              Mousasi KO/TKO (+465) 1u

                                                              Hedge:
                                                              Weidman Decision (+200) 1u

                                                              Fight #13: Cormier (C) vs. Johnson
                                                              Cormier (-120) 6u to win 5u
                                                              Cormier Submission (+250) 1u
                                                              Cormier Decision (+700) .5u
                                                              Cormier Unanimous Decision (+950) .5u
                                                              Cormier Round 5 (+2000) .1u
                                                              Cormier/Johnson Draw (+7000) .2u

                                                              Hedge(s):
                                                              Johnson Round 1 (+300) 3.5u
                                                              Johnson Decision (+950) .5u

                                                              Straight Parlays:
                                                              Gillespie/Usman+Strickland Over 2.5 (+115) 1u
                                                              Gillespie/Usman (+133) 1u
                                                              Emmett/Gillespie (+145) 1u

                                                              Prop Parlays:
                                                              Bibulatov -3.5/Usman+Strickland Over 2.5 (+117) 2u
                                                              Bibulatov ITD/Chookagian/Emmett Decision (+801) .25u
                                                              Gillespie -3.5/Cummins/Burgos -3.5 (+896) .25u
                                                              Calvillo ITD/Mousasi/Cormier (+990) .25u
                                                              Usman -3.5/Jury -3.5/Oliveira/Cote+Alves WGD (+1902) .25u

                                                              Full Card Props:
                                                              Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+265) 1.5u
                                                              Over 9.5 Fights Go Distance (+685) .75u
                                                              Over 10.5 Fights Go Distance (+2278) .1u
                                                              Last edited by Hugo de Naranja; 04-08-17, 04:02 PM.
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                                                              • JIBBBY
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 83691

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                UFC 210: Cormier vs. Johnson II Draftkings Double Up Lineup:
                                                                Magomed Bibulatov ($9,500)
                                                                Shane Burgos ($8,900)
                                                                Gregor Gillespie ($8,600)
                                                                Gegard Mousasi ($8,300)
                                                                Thiago Alves ($7,700)
                                                                Sean Strickland ($7,000)

                                                                Risk: 1u

                                                                UFC 210: Cormier vs. Johnson II Draftkings Tournament Lineup:

                                                                Magomed Bibulatov ($9,500)
                                                                Shane Burgos ($8,900)
                                                                Gegard Mousasi ($8,300)
                                                                Anthony Johnson ($8,100)
                                                                Patrick Cummins ($8,000)
                                                                Charles Oliveira ($7,200)

                                                                Risk: .2u

                                                                Hugo I'd be careful posting your Draftkings tournament play pending because others my tail exactly and wouldn't that reduce your over all payouts if you did hit big? I don't know how Draftkings payouts work but if it's a pool or tournament type format then you could get stung if people are tailing your exact plays and everyone hits the same plays..

                                                                If it doesn't apply and all payouts are the same regardless then disregard this post.. Just looking out for an internet brotha!!!

                                                                I'm not with Draftkings myself...
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                                                                • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-14-16
                                                                  • 14140

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  Hugo I'd be careful posting your Draftkings tournament play pending because others my tail exactly and wouldn't that reduce your over all payouts if you did hit big? I don't know how Draftkings payouts work but if it's a pool or tournament type format then you could get stung if people are tailing your exact plays and everyone hits the same plays..

                                                                  If it doesn't apply and all payouts are the same regardless then disregard this post.. Just looking out for an internet brotha!!!

                                                                  I'm not with Draftkings myself...
                                                                  I appreciate the concern mate but I'm not worried about that. People are welcome to tail/fade my Picks/DK/Bets as they please.
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                                                                  • BIGDAY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 02-17-10
                                                                    • 48245

                                                                    #173
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                                      • 83691

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Bellator is live on Spike now if anyone is interested in checking...
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                                                                      • Squareguy
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                                                                        • 12-30-10
                                                                        • 481

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Charles Rosa via Cardio in 2nd and 3rd round. Book it.
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