Aldo vs McGregor. Who will win?

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  • UncleChael
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    #36
    All in Colin!!
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    • plekz
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      #37
      Originally posted by mirinquads
      Why waste my time with a passive-aggressive insecure little man such as your self?
      that's called a cop-out. you got your card pulled and bitched up, says alot about how you carry yourself, silly little fraggle.
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      • plekz
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        #38
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        Good break down Plekz... I agree...

        However, Coner McG is tough to take down as
        he hasn't faced even one legit wrestler thus far in his career, in terms of grappling ability aldo is head & shoulders above anything conor will have experienced previously in a live scenario. it's also a 25 minute fight, something conor have yet to do in his life thus far, and considering he cuts even more weight than aldo the likelyhood of him being the fresher guy come 4-5 isn't very high.

        everyone likes to talk about conor's power, everything aldo threw at edgar hurt edgar, he practicly ended mark hominick's career when he gave him a four round beating that hominicks career never recovered from, and this was an aldo that only 24 hours previously had to excuse himself from a press conference because he was so physically weak from his weight cut that he couldn't even sit up straight (aldo battled staph for over half of that camp, and was on strong antibiotics as a result of this)

        aldo also put mendes lights out with a vicious knee, and had mendes on rollerskates in the second fight, had that round been even a couple of seconds longer mendes would have been done and out of there again most likely.

        so long as aldo fights intelligent (which he's done thus far in his entire career, so there's nothing pointing to him not doing it again in july) he's a considerably better overall fighter than conor by some margin, in everything from experience to how he puts his complete mma game together.

        trust me, even as high a ml on aldo is something we'll never see again after this, that i promise you.
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        • mirinquads
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          #39
          Hahhaha. No it says exactly something about how you carry your self. I recognize a situation that benefits me in no way. Why should I tell you why I believe the fight will be close? What have I to gain from that? It's not like anything i say is going to change your opinion either way.
          Every single time you make a case for a fighter you hype them up like they are unbeatable. Then when they lose, you're nowhere to be found. What do I stand to gain from this? Why waste time on someone who's not willing to entertain other angles of discussions than what they have decided on from the start? I'm pasted getting into pissing matches online, it's quite pathetic to be frank.
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          • plekz
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            #40
            Originally posted by mirinquads
            Hahhaha. No it says exactly something about how you carry your self. I recognize a situation that benefits me in no way. Why should I tell you why I believe the fight will be close? What have I to gain from that? It's not like anything i say is going to change your opinion either way.
            Every single time you make a case for a fighter you hype them up like they are unbeatable. Then when they lose, you're nowhere to be found. What do I stand to gain from this? Why waste time on someone who's not willing to entertain other angles of discussions than what they have decided on from the start? I'm pasted getting into pissing matches online, it's quite pathetic to be frank.
            hyperbole is real cute, it's also a crutch people like to lean on when they start to lose footing. ''every single time'' that's a baseless claim i backed shogun massively against chael and ate crow for it, and that's just one example i'll put down another 5-6 if you promise that every other baseless claim or attempt at hyperbole you attempt will be firmly shoved up your ass.

            how about a friendly 4 didgit wager, i'll take a itd line on aldo and i'll give you outs with every which way on conor, and as a added bonus you fk off from here aswell permanently if/when conor get's blown out. (thus negating your fabled claim of this being a close fight)

            and i'll happily entertain other ''angles'' thus far iv'e not seen a single relevant one made though for conor that aren't oneliner excerpts from his promotion material.
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            • PaperTrail07
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              #41
              On McGregor...think he would win the Volume/Point war and Aldo has not been ending fights vs quality fighters....and Mcgregor is quality...
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              • plekz
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                #42
                so mendes isn't a quality fighter? aldo also has higher output than conor and better defense.
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                • mirinquads
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by plekz
                  hyperbole is real cute, it's also a crutch people like to lean on when they start to lose footing. ''every single time'' that's a baseless claim i backed shogun massively against chael and ate crow for it, and that's just one example i'll put down another 5-6 if you promise that every other baseless claim or attempt at hyperbole you attempt will be firmly shoved up your ass.

                  how about a friendly 4 didgit wager, i'll take a itd line on aldo and i'll give you outs with every which way on conor, and as a added bonus you fk off from here aswell permanently if/when conor get's blown out. (thus negating your fabled claim of this being a close fight)

                  and i'll happily entertain other ''angles'' thus far iv'e not seen a single relevant one made though for conor that aren't oneliner excerpts from his promotion material.
                  A couple of things here. You still think were having a discussion. We're not. I don't respect you enough for that. I don't need to validate my opinion to you. You have some seriously lacking self-esteem, thus you need to get validation by "owning" other people online, truely dog-like behaviour.
                  Two, I'm backing Aldo, you utter idiot. I would have taken Aldo -200. What i was stating is that I think it will be a closer fight than both sides think. Every Conor backer think he's going to blow Aldo out, and the other way around. I think there will be a couple of close rounds in there, while Conor is fresh and Aldo is figuring him out.
                  And is a "4-digit wager" supposed to impress me? You pathetic little man.
                  Last edited by mirinquads; 05-18-15, 07:10 PM.
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                  • Thor4140
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by plekz
                    he hasn't faced even one legit wrestler thus far in his career, in terms of grappling ability aldo is head & shoulders above anything conor will have experienced previously in a live scenario. it's also a 25 minute fight, something conor have yet to do in his life thus far, and considering he cuts even more weight than aldo the likelyhood of him being the fresher guy come 4-5 isn't very high.

                    everyone likes to talk about conor's power, everything aldo threw at edgar hurt edgar, he practicly ended mark hominick's career when he gave him a four round beating that hominicks career never recovered from, and this was an aldo that only 24 hours previously had to excuse himself from a press conference because he was so physically weak from his weight cut that he couldn't even sit up straight (aldo battled staph for over half of that camp, and was on strong antibiotics as a result of this)

                    aldo also put mendes lights out with a vicious knee, and had mendes on rollerskates in the second fight, had that round been even a couple of seconds longer mendes would have been done and out of there again most likely.

                    so long as aldo fights intelligent (which he's done thus far in his entire career, so there's nothing pointing to him not doing it again in july) he's a considerably better overall fighter than conor by some margin, in everything from experience to how he puts his complete mma game together.

                    trust me, even as high a ml on aldo is something we'll never see again after this, that i promise you.
                    1. Edgar wasn't remotely hurt in that fight. His face was a mess but it always is. Some people think he won that fight. 2. I must have missed this. U talking about when Aldo hit Mendes two seconds late? Mendes should taken a bow to even come out and last in the fight after this late punch. Also Mendes busted up Aldo like no other. I think that late punch turned the whole fight around. Some also think Mendes won that fight. Me i thought Aldo won narrowly. Not saying anything in this post about the Aldo Conner fight just some of the things u saw compared to me are mind boggling.
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                    • Thor4140
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by mirinquads
                      Hey bruh, you were the one bringing up the length.

                      Anyway, value at Aldo at this line, he will have the ground advantage IF he decides to take it there. But it will be a closer fight than many expect, either way it goes.
                      U got torn apart by Peltz about Aldo's ground game when it was u who first said he will have the ground advantage
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                      • PaperTrail07
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                        #46
                        He won by decision and I believe mcG can outpoint Aldo....
                        Originally posted by plekz
                        so mendes isn't a quality fighter? aldo also has higher output than conor and better defense.
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                        • mirinquads
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                          U got torn apart by Peltz about Aldo's ground game when it was u who first said he will have the ground advantage
                          Exactly

                          No sense was made that day.
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                          • plekz
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by mirinquads
                            fraggle babble
                            might wanna spare me the armchair attempts at ''analyzing'' you are really not doing yourself any favours there fraggle, no i don't think we are having a discussion, i just wanna pick your pockets and send you packing. and no a 4 didgit wager isn't supposed to impress you, but i seriously doubt you have the coinage for a 5 didgit one.



                            behave yourself.

                            ps: let me throw a spanner in the works about your little theory there child, let's instead just theorize that i just find this an entertaining way to kill a couple of minutes between doing other things, and since i could care less about your existence or even if you'd drop dead tomorrow i also have no need of ''owning'' you or anyone else online, it'd require a an actual emotional compenent for that to happen, and you'll never rate high enough for that.

                            some people are just assholes man, without them having self-esteem issues or being in need of validation, just simply because they ditest a large part of the population on this planet, you just happen to fall into that category and thus well.
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                            • PaperTrail07
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                              #49
                              Sorry 3 years ago he did...last 10 fights--4 fights ended...Chan Sung Jun....Mendes in Jan 2012 (knee KO)...Manny Gamburyan 2010 and Mike Brown 2009....
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                              • plekz
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Thor4140
                                1. Edgar wasn't remotely hurt in that fight. His face was a mess but it always is. Some people think he won that fight. 2. I must have missed this. U talking about when Aldo hit Mendes two seconds late? Mendes should taken a bow to even come out and last in the fight after this late punch. Also Mendes busted up Aldo like no other. I think that late punch turned the whole fight around. Some also think Mendes won that fight. Me i thought Aldo won narrowly. Not saying anything in this post about the Aldo Conner fight just some of the things u saw compared to me are mind boggling.
                                no one in the entire arena even heard the round horn, nor had the ref stepped in to separate (since he didn't hear) so i assume next you are gonna claim that mendes heard the 10 second warning (which his corner and mendes , and the judge all have confirmed they didn't hear) and proceeded to count backwards from 10 to 1 right?

                                aldo didn't hear the horn either, nor did his corner so there was nothing illegal about that shot what so ever, had mendes decided to quit there it would have been a tko for aldo (again)

                                as for how mendes ''busted'' up aldo, in terms of visible damage the two most damaging shots mendes landed was due to an eyepoke and a headbutt (neither are legal)

                                wanna try again? maybe channel some aaliyah to help you on your way if you need it.
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                                • mirinquads
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by plekz
                                  might wanna spare me the armchair attempts at ''analyzing'' you are really not doing yourself any favours there fraggle, no i don't think we are having a discussion, i just wanna pick your pockets and send you packing. and no a 4 didgit wager isn't supposed to impress you, but i seriously doubt you have the coinage for a 5 didgit one.



                                  behave yourself.

                                  ps: let me throw a spanner in the works about your little theory there child, let's instead just theorize that i just find this an entertaining way to kill a couple of minutes between doing other things, and since i could care less about your existence or even if you'd drop dead tomorrow i also have no need of ''owning'' you or anyone else online, it'd require a an actual emotional compenent for that to happen, and you'll never rate high enough for that.

                                  some people are just assholes man, without them having self-esteem issues or being in need of validation, just simply because they ditest a large part of the population on this planet, you just happen to fall into that category and thus well.
                                  Talk about backtracking.

                                  Just sad stuff here. I tell you I don't give to fcks about you and you literally go: "NO ITS ME THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU, I WAS JUST SAYING THESE THINGS FOR FUN!!"

                                  Hilariously sad. It's almost like having old Ron Paul back.

                                  Let's not even go over how you totally fuken misunderstood my post, and are trying to make a Conor bet with me, when I clearly stated I'm on Aldo - Full retard alert.

                                  Also how can you "ditest" (I will fix that for you, it's detest) me, without knowing me at all? - People don't detest people they don't know, without having some serious personal and emotional problems, which you have showed to have time and time again. Again. If you want to have a civil discussion, behave like a normal human being. If you don't stop directing posts at me.
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                                  • plekz
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by mirinquads
                                    more fraggle babble
                                    spare me the armchair psych a babble.
                                    Last edited by plekz; 05-18-15, 07:42 PM.
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                                    • mirinquads
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                                      #53
                                      And that's how you shut down a sad little existence that has nothing better to do than create useless conflict.
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                                      • plekz
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                                        #54
                                        ^

                                        about that ''owning'' need, and the ''validation'' part

                                        pot em you are a nigar. aka black.
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                                        • GoBlue77
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                                          #55
                                          McGregor has the best distance control of just about anyone
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                                          • plekz
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                                            #56
                                            and yet aldo has the better numbers in terms of defense, and aldo has built his fighting a murderers row of mostly high level grapplers who has been trying all their might to get him to the mat. conor has built his fighting cherry-picked opponents and without ever facing a legit high level grappler (no sorry joseph duffy back when he was a purple belt hardly rates here)
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                                            • PaperTrail07
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                                              #57
                                              I agree....
                                              Originally posted by GoBlue77
                                              McGregor has the best distance control of just about anyone
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                                              • Killer_Demo
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                                                #58
                                                How many inches of reach does Conor have over Aldo? 2-4 inches?
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                                                • plekz
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                                                  How many inches of reach does Conor have over Aldo? 2-4 inches?
                                                  four, which isn't that difficult to negate with good footwork and aldo has the best pivots in the business.
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                                                  • Thor4140
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by plekz
                                                    no one in the entire arena even heard the round horn, nor had the ref stepped in to separate (since he didn't hear) so i assume next you are gonna claim that mendes heard the 10 second warning (which his corner and mendes , and the judge all have confirmed they didn't hear) and proceeded to count backwards from 10 to 1 right?

                                                    aldo didn't hear the horn either, nor did his corner so there was nothing illegal about that shot what so ever, had mendes decided to quit there it would have been a tko for aldo (again)

                                                    as for how mendes ''busted'' up aldo, in terms of visible damage the two most damaging shots mendes landed was due to an eyepoke and a headbutt (neither are legal)

                                                    wanna try again? maybe channel some aaliyah to help you on your way if you need it.
                                                    nobody said anything about Aldo cheatin. He obviously didn't hear the bell but Mendes did cause u can see he let up. Im not here to argue with u on who won the fight but that late punch was huge. Prolly why Mendes hit Aldo in the nuts a few times and poked his eye. I know when Aldo was getting off the canvas in the first round that sure wasn't an eye poke. Nut huggers see fights a different way. I call them like i see them.
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                                                    • plekz
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                                                      #61
                                                      he didn't let up, are you daft or something? mendes have said in several interviews that neither him or his corner were aware that the bell had sounded, (and assuming mendes heard, his corner would have had aswell since they were just behind him with there faces to the cage wall screaming instructions to mendes) and there was no reason for them to suspect it had either since the fighters are instructed and trained to fight until the ref steps in which case they are to break. mendes just defended the combination very poorly, probably because he got hit hard prior to it and was backed into a corner.

                                                      as for damaging shots by mendes, he knocked aldo down once, as in the driving force in the punch pushed aldo off his feet (it made him fall backwards) but aldo was up faster than he even hit the ground with no visible effect what so ever, his legs didn't give out, nor did he go stiff in any way.

                                                      other then that mendes had the uppercut that aldo just ate, that was pretty much the story for the entire fight whenever mendes would land aldo would give him three times back, and the reason mendes was successful and frankie was is largely in part due to the threat of the takedown, that factor alone changes the dynamics and complexion of a fight completly.

                                                      and i said ''visible'' damage as in cosmetic damage, you know cuts, brusies, swelling, and so on. and the cut above aldos eye was due to the headbut and the swelling on the same eye was due to the eyepoke.
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                                                      • Thor4140
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by plekz
                                                        he didn't let up, are you daft or something? mendes have said in several interviews that neither him or his corner were aware that the bell had sounded, (and assuming mendes heard, his corner would have had aswell since they were just behind him with there faces to the cage wall screaming instructions to mendes) and there was no reason for them to suspect it had either since the fighters are instructed and trained to fight until the ref steps in which case they are to break. mendes just defended the combination very poorly, probably because he got hit hard prior to it and was backed into a corner.

                                                        as for damaging shots by mendes, he knocked aldo down once, as in the driving force in the punch pushed aldo off his feet (it made him fall backwards) but aldo was up faster than he even hit the ground with no visible effect what so ever, his legs didn't give out, nor did he go stiff in any way.

                                                        other then that mendes had the uppercut that aldo just ate, that was pretty much the story for the entire fight whenever mendes would land aldo would give him three times back, and the reason mendes was successful and frankie was is largely in part due to the threat of the takedown, that factor alone changes the dynamics and complexion of a fight completly.

                                                        and i said ''visible'' damage as in cosmetic damage, you know cuts, brusies, swelling, and so on. and the cut above aldos eye was due to the headbut and the swelling on the same eye was due to the eyepoke.
                                                        So obviously that late punch in ur opinion had no factor in the fight. The guy was on queer street the whole minute. That punch was huge. Yep every nick on aldo was because of butts and eyepokes and throw in some fence burns. How about we just say it was a great fight okay. And for what its worth i will most likely be betting Aldo that is if i bet the fight.
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                                                        • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                                          #63
                                                          This fight is a pickem at Pinnacle, -105 best line out there for Aldo right now
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                                                          • plekz
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                            So obviously that late punch in ur opinion had no factor in the fight.
                                                            stop calling it ''late'' nobody involved in the actual fight from the corner men, to the ref, to the actual fighters were aware that the round had ended, mendes didn't react properly because aldo faked it coming in and then landed a beautiful combo that sent mendes sailing backwards. if anything mendes should be thankful the round wasn't 5 seconds longer because then he would in all likelyhood had been done.
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                                                            • Thor4140
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by plekz
                                                              stop calling it ''late'' nobody involved in the actual fight from the corner men, to the ref, to the actual fighters were aware that the round had ended, mendes didn't react properly because aldo faked it coming in and then landed a beautiful combo that sent mendes sailing backwards. if anything mendes should be thankful the round wasn't 5 seconds longer because then he would in all likelyhood had been done.
                                                              u are obviously a Aldo nut hugger and just a confrontational type of guy. You win. The punch was late and if u are this retarded and can't figure out this was a late punch that changed the fight then so be it. Mendes body language showed he heard the bell. That is all u need to know no matter what anyone say's
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                                                              • mirinquads
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                                                                #66
                                                                Thor, it's not worth the hassel. This guy can't have a rational conversation about anything. I remember when he wouldn't hear any arguments about how Henderson could beat Thatch and how Sonnen could beat Shogun. It's just a waste of time, the guy is frustrated in every way possible, it's a sad sight to behold.
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                                                                • JoshKnows46
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Conor by unanimous decision
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                                                                  • plekz
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                    u are obviously a Aldo nut hugger and just a confrontational type of guy. You win. The punch was late and if u are this retarded and can't figure out this was a late punch that changed the fight then so be it. Mendes body language showed he heard the bell. That is all u need to know no matter what anyone say's
                                                                    then why did mendes & his corner say explicitly in interviews following the fight that the arena was so loud that they couldn't hear anything what so ever? the ref attested to the same thing, both for the 10 second warning and the actual bell. his corner was even closer to the bell than mendes was, so you mean mendes heard it but they didn't? or is your reasoning that his corner heard it but didn't make a thing of it?

                                                                    eventhough they said following the fight that if they'd known that the round had ended when the last of the punches were thrown (it hadn't ended when aldo started to unload that combo) they would have protested directly then and there, mendes said the same thing aswell.

                                                                    your train of thought makes absolutley zero sense when looking at what actually transpired.
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                                                                    • Sykes
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                                                                      #69
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                                                                      • Thor4140
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                                        Thor, it's not worth the hassel. This guy can't have a rational conversation about anything. I remember when he wouldn't hear any arguments about how Henderson could beat Thatch and how Sonnen could beat Shogun. It's just a waste of time, the guy is frustrated in every way possible, it's a sad sight to behold.
                                                                        Were u here when he slammed everyone's opinion because "he rolled"? He had knowledge unlike others because he participated in a few ju jitz practices? I think he lost that fight in question also lol. The guy makes u want to see Conner win.
                                                                        Last edited by Thor4140; 05-25-15, 09:00 PM.
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