Bellator 109: Shlemenko Vs Marshall (November 22, 2013)

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 11-22-13, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by MD

I have o1.5 here at +145. Should be closer to -125ish I think.

Who ya got MD?

**Khiaao** · 11-22-13, 10:57 PM

Over

**wagerjunkie** · 11-22-13, 10:57 PM

bahahhhahhaah

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 11-22-13, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by MD

I have o1.5 here at +145. Should be closer to -125ish I think.

You lost but this is actually an occasion where the O @ +145 was a good value play. Can't wait till tomorrow. Lot's of big plays on some Boxing.

**wagerjunkie** · 11-22-13, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012

You lost but this is actually an occasion where the O @ +145 was a good value play. Can't wait till tomorrow. Lot's of big plays on some Boxing.

Glory?

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 11-22-13, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by wagerjunkie

Glory?

I would only there aren't any lines out for Glory. Froch, Pac Man, Ruiz Jr., Boytsov & a couple other fights. No plays but I will be watching Glory.

**Rubber Guard** · 11-23-13, 12:33 PM

Not to come in after the fact, I don't even pay full attentions to some of these Bellator guys are. I usually know the favorites well that's it. But Will Brooks a dog? What +165 when I saw it? Russians are on a roll no doubt that makes it tough, but Brooks I know has looked real good his last 2 fights. More athletic than anyone in Bellator. I didn't bet and didn't even watch. But certainly that was a steal of the night? Will Brooks look impressive? Or Russian humiliate his country?

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 11-23-13, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

Not to come in after the fact, I don't even pay full attentions to some of these Bellator guys are. I usually know the favorites well that's it. But Will Brooks a dog? What +165 when I saw it? Russians are on a roll no doubt that makes it tough, but Brooks I know has looked real good his last 2 fights. More athletic than anyone in Bellator. I didn't bet and didn't even watch. But certainly that was a steal of the night? Will Brooks look impressive? Or Russian humiliate his country?

I got Brooks @ +170. Before the fight. To be honest I thought the fight was a coin flip but @ +170 it was an obviously play. After the fight I was surprised how much Brooks had improved, especially his striking. Sarny is just about as good as he is going to get. He has just about reached his ceiling. However, Brooks for a # of reasons has a much higher ceiling & will continue to improve for the next couple of years. I do not believe Brooks is ready for either Alvarez or Chandler but would still give both of them an excellent fight.

MD · 11-23-13, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

Not to come in after the fact, I don't even pay full attentions to some of these Bellator guys are. I usually know the favorites well that's it. But Will Brooks a dog? What +165 when I saw it? Russians are on a roll no doubt that makes it tough, but Brooks I know has looked real good his last 2 fights. More athletic than anyone in Bellator. I didn't bet and didn't even watch. But certainly that was a steal of the night? Will Brooks look impressive? Or Russian humiliate his country?

Will Brooks may be the best lightweight in the world in two years, but right now he has a lot of exploitable holes. Sarnavskiy was a legitimate test for him, and the perfect guy to exploit those holes, but he destroyed him. I had it 30-25 Brooks. He almost legitimately KO'd him in round two, and almost finished him with strikes from mount in R3.

Pretty much everyone I spoke to about the fight thought that Sarnavskiy should be the favourite, to some degree; post-fight I feel as if I let myself get anchored by others' opinions in my own handicapping of the fight (Brooks -160ish, when I originally had him at -280ish), and that I should have 'capped him higher, but that's probably just hindsight.