UFC 163: Aldo vs Korean Zombie (8-3-13)

[The iron sheik]

I dislike you bro. Cant help myself. It aint about that talk... your cockyness is what bugs me.

I know what you mean.

Not only that, but it's being overtly cocky after picking anything from -600 to -900 in a constant basis and that's pretty much it. Well, I guess you get to gloat almost 9/10 times but there's a Matt Serra waiting for all of us and I guess we don't talk about those excessively.

[sideloaded]

anyone else dissapointed with Zombie's performance? I mean Aldo broke his foot in rd 1 and Zombie did nothing.

I hate these guys that build their entire career fighting a certain figting style that they've spent 1000's of hours in the gym perfecting. Then get to an important title fight and decide to fight some ultra conservative GSP style game plan.

Zombie didnt want to get knocked out cold I get it, but the only way he has any shot is his old style pressure/scramble offense. Low percentage I know. But how many times was Zombie going to win a decision fighting they way he did rds 1-3?

A lot of this can be said for Ellenburger too. Dude didn't want to get knocked out after all that shit he talked so he took zero chances and lost a lopsided decision. Everyone is afraid to get highlight reeled ko'd in big fights now. Something that didn't exist in the pride era.

RIP pride. And Zombie should drop his stupid nickname now. He has forsaken his identity with that horse shit game plan.

[Sato]

Shame Zombie didnt see Aldos foot...could have pressured that foot a lil bit moah!

[mmaed]

terrible decision...29-28 machida and thats being generous...ill concede rd 2 to davis only because he landed the late TD and landed a few knees...the TD at the end of rd 1 was meaningless...machida landed the better shots that round and even blitzed and had davis stunned...how a TD w/ 40 seconds left w/ no damage landed outweighs that ill never understand...and how the F did judge watts score round 3 for davis tho? that was machida's most clear cut round...defended every TD attempt...outstruck davis...i didnt feel too confident when it went to the cards only because i know how terrible these judges are and how they over value meaningless TDs but when i heard UD i felt good for a split second and then BOOM! travesty...bad enough vinny m. walked directly into a fist and got KOd in seconds...i can stomach that loss...that guy is a moron and i should have known better then to lay so much juice on him...hindsight is 20/20...but to be on the right side of a bet, watch the fight and know who won it and then to have it taken away by incompetent judging is a hard pill to swallow...oh well...on to the next event...wsof 4 in a few days...im sure the lines will be juiced to the maximum levels so lets try and figure a way to make back some of the $$$ the judges in brazil stole from us...

This is exactly how I feel. I can't believe I bet on that can Vinny. I don't hate myself for the Machida bet as much. That still makes sense to me but Vinny. Damn.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

mmmm yes

I started 28 years ago back in 1985. I'll keep going as long as my knees & back hold up. If I wasn't on PED's I doubt I could still do what I do. In some ways I get more cardio & a better work out skating than rolling on the mat.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

anyone else dissapointed with Zombie's performance? I mean Aldo broke his foot in rd 1 and Zombie did nothing.

I hate these guys that build their entire career fighting a certain figting style that they've spent 1000's of hours in the gym perfecting. Then get to an important title fight and decide to fight some ultra conservative GSP style game plan.

Zombie didnt want to get knocked out cold I get it, but the only way he has any shot is his old style pressure/scramble offense. Low percentage I know. But how many times was Zombie going to win a decision fighting they way he did rds 1-3?

A lot of this can be said for Ellenburger too. Dude didn't want to get knocked out after all that shit he talked so he took zero chances and lost a lopsided decision. Everyone is afraid to get highlight reeled ko'd in big fights now. Something that didn't exist in the pride era.

RIP pride. And Zombie should drop his stupid nickname now. He has forsaken his identity with that horse shit game plan.

Sometimes a camp/coach will have their fighter fight a different way because they know that the opposition is planning for their usual style. However, switching things up in order to confuse an opponent usually does not work. The zombie & Ellenburger fights are good examples. Zombie should have used a high pressure style & Ellenburger should have blitzkrieged Rory. Pride was the best for a number of reasons. Fewer rules (knees & soccer kicks) & everyone was jacked on every PED available at the time. The yellow card kept the action going and let us never forget Lenne Hardt! Hopefully One FC can continue to get more popular. I believe their rules to be the best.

[MD]

Sometimes a camp/coach will have their fighter fight a different way because they know that the opposition is planning for their usual style. However, switching things up in order to confuse an opponent usually does not work. The zombie & Ellenburger fights are good examples. Zombie should have used a high pressure style & Ellenburger should have blitzkrieged Rory. Pride was the best for a number of reasons. Fewer rules (knees & soccer kicks) & everyone was jacked on every PED available at the time. The yellow card kept the action going and let us never forget Lenne Hardt! Hopefully One FC can continue to get more popular. I believe their rules to be the best.

I don't think that was a gameplan on Ellenburger's part, I think he simply had no answer for Rory's jab and movement.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

I don't think that was a gameplan on Ellenburger's part, I think he simply had no answer for Rory's jab and movement.

Agreed. However, he had the choice to fight in a manner which would have increased his defensive vulnerabilities but also increased his chances for a KO victory. During a recent interview Johny Hendricks said that he knows that he will have the same choice as Ellenburger & Koscheck vs GSP had. He stated that he has already made the decision that he would rather get KO'd going for a KO. He will happily eat 3 of GSP's strikes in order to land just 1 of his. He wants to make this a dog fight in which either he or GSP gets KO'd. If he holds true to his word I believe his chances for victory will be vastly increased. Can not wait for this fight!

[Educ8d Degener8]

Shame Zombie didnt see Aldos foot...could have pressured that foot a lil bit moah!

Could've had the first TKO by footstomps to go with his twister submission on his resume...

[On2TheNext1]

They both fought "not to lose". The moment got to them.

[PaperTrail07]

100%...the importance of the fight looked like it got to both of them....I wanna see a rematch...Zombie's coaches needed to be ALL OVER that fuckkn foot....thats something they should see a MILE away....no mystery when Joe Rogan is saying "huh first fight the guy is throwing ZERO kicks...) .....obv something was up..QUOTE=On2TheNext1;19315306]They both fought "not to lose". The moment got to them.[/QUOTE]

[Das Jax]

100%...the importance of the fight looked like it got to both of them....I wanna see a rematch...Zombie's coaches needed to be ALL OVER that fuckkn foot....thats something they should see a MILE away....no mystery when Joe Rogan is saying "huh first fight the guy is throwing ZERO kicks...) .....obv something was up..QUOTE=On2TheNext1;19315306]They both fought "not to lose". The moment got to them.

I agree with you to a certain extent, but max props need to be given to Aldo for disguising such a massive injury. Other than the lack of leg kicks, nobody watching the fight saw a thing. The guy deserves an Oscar.