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  • Bread
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-16-08
    • 23726

    #1
    UFC 92 Picks
    I’m starting to feel a little bit like Jim Carrey’s character in ‘Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind’. In case you haven’t seen it, the plot revolves around Carrey desperately struggling to retain his pleasant memories of his ex-girlfriend, as a scientific procedure eradicates them from his mind. In my case it is the memory of winning wagers, not Kate Winslet, that is slipping away. Even the UFC, which is usually my bread and butter, betrayed me a couple of weeks ago. Even so, I couldn’t be happier for a chance at some MMA redemption on Saturday evening. UFC 92 looks to be the best card of the year. Hopefully I can end 2008 on a good note.

    Forrest Griffin -130
    Rashad Evans +110

    The two very first Ultimate Fighter champs have come a long way, as they are now headlining the most dynamic card of the year. I am a huge fan of both men as I have watched every one of their professional fights. I will be sad for whoever loses, but it’s kind like when two of your best friends fight each other. Sure, it makes you feel a little bit uncomfortable, but not enough to stop you from enjoying a good show.

    Griffin (16-4-0) can never be counted out. While not known for being exceptionally great at any one thing in particular, Forrest just competes and wins. I believe that the played out term is that he has “heart”. Personally, I think it’s his magical ears. Either way, Griffin always puts on a good show, and this fight will be no different.

    Rashad “Sugar” Evans (17-0-1) comes in fresh off his nasty K.O. of Chuck Liddell. Poor Chuck might still be waiting for Prince Charming to awaken him with a kiss. It was that brutal.

    Wake up, Chuck


    Since his TUF days, Evans has shed the showboating cockiness that cast him as a bit of a pariah, and is now gaining a reputation as a deadly striker. All he has done in his career is go undefeated, with a questionable draw on his record to Tito Ortiz that was attributed solely to poor judging. The judges probably won’t come into play tonight.

    I’m taking Evans at +110, and I’m also taking him to win inside the five rounds at +232. I will be sad to see Griffin get K.O.’d, and then I’ll check my new balance and forget it ever happened.

    Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira -360
    Frank Mir +300

    Anyone who watched these two coaches on the reality show this year witnessed two opposite ends of the spectrum as far as personality goes. On one side you had Big Nog (31-4-1), a personable giant who truly loved his kids. Even through his broken English, his genuine sincerity shone through. Perhaps that attributed to the fact that both of the winners emerged from camp.

    On the other side was Frank Mir (11-3-0). He has always come across as one of the biggest jerks in the UFC, and being on the show solidified those beliefs. He possesses zero redeemable qualities, and unlike Forrest, it will be fun rooting for him to get beatdown.

    Nogueira has one of the few cool nicknames in the UFC: Minotauro. On the UFC’s website, it asks fighters what job they had before they became a fighter. Minotauro says that he was a Jiu-Jitsu instructor. Mir worked the front desk for Station Casinos. That’s all you need to know. Nogueira for the victory.

    Two out of three ain’t bad



    Wanderlei Silva -110
    Quinton Jackson -110

    The third high-profile fight of the night finds no shortage of bad blood. Wanderlei “The Axe Murderer” Silva (32-8-1) and Quinton “Rampage” Jackson (28-7-0) met twice before in Pride. Silva took both fights via devastating TKO’s. He really does not like Rampage and had this to say about his opponent:

    "I want to kill this guy; I don't like him. This is really no promotion. I don't talk with him. I don't like him; he knows this."

    That quote alone should have you calling your cable company to order this pay-per-view. Wowie zowie! I’m a believer and I’ll be betting Silva. He is one of the hardest hitters in the game, as evidenced in his loss to Liddell a year ago. He has heavy hands and every connection looks like it hurts.

    Fans have to still be wondering if Rampage is mentally stable. Shortly after his loss to Griffin in July, he went completely nuts and found himself involved in a police chase that ended with his arrest on a felony charge of evading law enforcement, misdemeanor hit-and-run, and reckless driving. I give props to Dana White and the UFC who were there to back there embattled star immediately. What will he do once he loses to Silva? Hijack a plane? Pick up a tranny? The possibilities are endless. I can’t wait!

    There Will Be Blood



    CB Dollaway -165
    Mike Massenzio +135

    I honestly don’t know much about Massenzio (11-2-0) except that he beat Drew McFedries a few months ago and that he calls himself “The Master of Disaster”. Ordinarily, that wouldn’t be an impressive enough resume to lay some money on. But then there is CB Dollaway (8-2-0). Suddenly, Massenzio sounds like a great opportunity to make some cash on a decent dog.

    Dolloway has a permanent top lip snarl he sports that makes his opponents and viewers alike want to smack him around. Then there was his arm lock tapout vs. Amir Sadollah where he cried bloody murder that he didn’t tap, when replays clearly showed him tapping. I don’t like this guy, and just like with Nate Diaz, I’ll be betting against him on pure principal for as long as he is fighting. Me and Massenzio rollin’ in my Benz-o.

    Cheick Kongo -350
    Mostapha Al-Turk +260

    Speaking of tapping out of arm bars, the last time we saw a Muslim in the Octagon, Razzak Al-Hassan refused to tap out of a brutal situation, and his elbow went *pop*. I learned that from then on, that I would always take into consideration that Muslims would prefer to go out with honor than to tap out to an infidel referee. Duly noted.

    That will not be enough to take Mr. Al-Turk (6-3-0). I do find it ironic though, that he lists his hero as Spiderman, as he is going up against the fighter with the most super hero-esque body. With his exotic name and massive 6’4” frame, Kongo (22-4-1) really should be out rounding up evil villains. Until that day, there is no way he loses this stepping stone fight.

    Your friendly neighborhood Cheick Kongo


    So there you have it. Man I really need to have at least a 4-1 day here. Bread needs a new pair of shoes. Actually, I’d even settle for some used ones. I just need some shoes!


  • MickChunky
    SBR MVP
    • 10-31-06
    • 1452

    #2
    Nice writeup Bread. Rashad is on another level compared to Forrest. I like Rampage but after seeing the 2 Pride fights with Wandy, he is in for a bad beatdown. Silva is on top of his game right now and if you saw the weigh-ins he struck fear into Jackson's heart. Big-Nog is so well rounded, I just can't see Mir taking this one.

    I'm looking into the Okami/Lister fight. I don't really know much about Okami but Lister is one of the best BJJ/Submission wrestlers ever. I might throw a little bit at +320 for Lister.

    I'm really looking forward to this card. Going to a party to watch it in HD, I can't wait.

    Betting big on Wandy, a parlay with Sugar/Wandy, maybe a little on Massenzio just because I can't stand CB.

    GL Bread.
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    • Bon
      SBR Rookie
      • 12-09-08
      • 21

      #3
      I like Forrest. Rashad has a puncher's chance against Forrest and needs the KO to win, otherwise I think Forrest dominates every aspect of the fight with his strength & size advantage. I have a rolling if-win bet on Forrest if my 3 man parlay hits.

      Tito dominated Rashad in their fight despite it being ruled a draw and had him up on the back foot running scared from his strikes. I think even though Rashad has the better hand speed and KO power, Forrest can utilise his reach to set up some combos and chop a nasty leg kick in or 2 which will slow Rashad down and make him less mobile and allow Forrest to take over the fight.

      I am not at all concerned if Rashad tried to take Forrest down, I think he will have a harder time than expected and if he does take Forrest town, I expect Forrest to get back to his feet. Rashad will be made to work trying and taking down Forrest so he will tire doing this. He won't be able to do it for 5RDs to grind out a decision, no way.

      2.5u on Forrest if my parlay hits.

      I bet Nog heavy... he is better than Mir in every aspect of the fight. No way Mir subs Nog. Look for Nog to submit Mir just to make a point. If the fight goes past the first round, Mir will be completely gassed.

      5u on Nog. Also got fight finishes inside the distance at -190. $190 down to win $100, thought the odds were way off.

      I think Blackburn is more than a live dog in his fight with Chonan. Like someone else said, Chonan's fight with Baroni (and Henderson) makes me think we may see a similar situation here as Blackburn does have explosive striking with KO power. Blackburn has stopped working and started training full-time since he signed with the UFC as well and believes that conditioning is the only reason he's lost fights in the past, but believes that's fully taken care of now he has started training full time.

      0.5u on Blackburn.

      Two more fights that I plan to bet at 5u, but I have to get my money down first..
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      • The HOFF
        SBR MVP
        • 07-02-08
        • 4847

        #4
        Originally posted by bread
        what will he do once he loses to silva? Hijack a plane? Pick up a tranny? The possibilities are endless. I can’t wait!


        We are opposite on a few, so it's either going to be your night or mine!

        I was actually leaning Evans ever since this fight was announced. But after reading some previews and watching some old fights I had to go with my boy Forrest. I actually picked him over Shogun and Rampage, so I can't turn my back on him now.

        Mir really doesn't have a chance, but how sweet do I look when he pulls a Tanzanian Pinkie Toe Hold and wins? Answer: pretty ****ing sweet.

        Al-Turk really doesn't have a chance, but how sweet do I look when he pulls a Tanzanian Pinkie Toe Hold and wins? Answer: pretty ****ing sweet.

        We both like Wanderlei. Good times. From everything I have seen, Rampage still doesn't have his shit together.

        Massenzio will do it. Boom goes the dynamite.
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        • Bread
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-16-08
          • 23726

          #5
          Originally posted by MickChunky
          Nice writeup Bread. Rashad is on another level compared to Forrest. I like Rampage but after seeing the 2 Pride fights with Wandy, he is in for a bad beatdown. Silva is on top of his game right now and if you saw the weigh-ins he struck fear into Jackson's heart. Big-Nog is so well rounded, I just can't see Mir taking this one.

          I'm looking into the Okami/Lister fight.
          I don't really know much about Okami but Lister is one of the best BJJ/Submission wrestlers ever. I might throw a little bit at +320 for Lister.

          I'm really looking forward to this card. Going to a party to watch it in HD, I can't wait.

          Betting big on Wandy, a parlay with Sugar/Wandy, maybe a little on Massenzio just because I can't stand CB.

          GL Bread.
          Thanks Mick. If ever in doubt, bet against the Asian in the UFC. They have a terrible track record. I'd like to actually pull up a stat on this.
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          • Bread
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-16-08
            • 23726

            #6
            Originally posted by Bon
            I like Forrest. Rashad has a puncher's chance against Forrest and needs the KO to win, otherwise I think Forrest dominates every aspect of the fight with his strength & size advantage. I have a rolling if-win bet on Forrest if my 3 man parlay hits.

            Tito dominated Rashad in their fight despite it being ruled a draw and had him up on the back foot running scared from his strikes. I think even though Rashad has the better hand speed and KO power, Forrest can utilise his reach to set up some combos and chop a nasty leg kick in or 2 which will slow Rashad down and make him less mobile and allow Forrest to take over the fight.

            I am not at all concerned if Rashad tried to take Forrest down, I think he will have a harder time than expected and if he does take Forrest town, I expect Forrest to get back to his feet. Rashad will be made to work trying and taking down Forrest so he will tire doing this. He won't be able to do it for 5RDs to grind out a decision, no way.

            2.5u on Forrest if my parlay hits.

            I bet Nog heavy... he is better than Mir in every aspect of the fight. No way Mir subs Nog. Look for Nog to submit Mir just to make a point. If the fight goes past the first round, Mir will be completely gassed.

            5u on Nog. Also got fight finishes inside the distance at -190. $190 down to win $100, thought the odds were way off.

            I think Blackburn is more than a live dog in his fight with Chonan. Like someone else said, Chonan's fight with Baroni (and Henderson) makes me think we may see a similar situation here as Blackburn does have explosive striking with KO power. Blackburn has stopped working and started training full-time since he signed with the UFC as well and believes that conditioning is the only reason he's lost fights in the past, but believes that's fully taken care of now he has started training full time.

            0.5u on Blackburn.

            Two more fights that I plan to bet at 5u, but I have to get my money down first..

            Good luck to you Bon. I'm really hoping that Mir gets hurt. It would make me smile.
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            • Bread
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-16-08
              • 23726

              #7
              Originally posted by The HOFF


              We are opposite on a few, so it's either going to be your night or mine!

              I was actually leaning Evans ever since this fight was announced. But after reading some previews and watching some old fights I had to go with my boy Forrest. I actually picked him over Shogun and Rampage, so I can't turn my back on him now.

              Mir really doesn't have a chance, but how sweet do I look when he pulls a Tanzanian Pinkie Toe Hold and wins? Answer: pretty ****ing sweet.

              Al-Turk really doesn't have a chance, but how sweet do I look when he pulls a Tanzanian Pinkie Toe Hold and wins? Answer: pretty ****ing sweet.

              We both like Wanderlei. Good times. From everything I have seen, Rampage still doesn't have his shit together.

              Massenzio will do it. Boom goes the dynamite.
              I love me some Forrest too, and hit big on him beating Rampage. But I dunno...Evans has been so damn impressive. Ug.

              You can roll in the Benz-o with me and Massenzio too! ALRIGHT YEA HIGH FIVE!!
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              • Robyn
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-05-08
                • 9681

                #8
                My UFC picks:

                Rashad Evans +110 (KO in second)

                While I would love to go with Nogueira at -360, I am a bit concerned that his balls might be a wee bit too old for this fight. I absolutely can not stand Frank Mir, but I am going with him at +300. That was painful for me, btw and I secretly hope that I am wrong.

                Unless Rampage has done some major soul searching, I would go with Wanderlei Silva at -110 to win the fight. Judging from TUF two seasons ago, he had zero drive to win and seemed to be unraveling at the seams. I do not think that much has changed.

                I'm goign with Mike Massenzio at +135 simply because I can not stand to look at CB Dollaway.

                Cheick Kongo -350
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                • Bread
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-16-08
                  • 23726

                  #9
                  YAY! I only have one different from you Robyn! I'm a real winner!!
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                  • Robyn
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-05-08
                    • 9681

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bread
                    YAY! I only have one different from you Robyn! I'm a real winner!!
                    Uh...I hope that's a good thing.
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                    • Bon
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 12-09-08
                      • 21

                      #11
                      I like Okami, I bet him for 5u.. I think it'll play out similar to Marquardt/Lister, I expect Okami to keep it standing and pepper Lister. I'm comfortable with Okami in Lister's guard if it goes to the ground, as his submission defense is top notch.

                      and I like Rampage. I bet him for 5u. First fight does not count as it was a GP and Rampage fought a war with Chuck Liddell. Second fight, Rampage dominated the entire 10mins of the first round, even dropping Silva at the end with a right hand. Conditioning was the reason Rampage lost that fight. His new camp will take care of his conditioning, speed and power... mentally, I think he's all there, so not worried there. I think odds on this fight are a bit of a gift, as Wandy is well past his prime and Rampage is entering his prime. If it goes to decision, it will most likely be Rampage as the cage and UFC rules suit his style much better, especially given the wrestling advantage he has over Silva and can pretty much take him down at will. Silva needs the KO to win this fight and I don't think he'll get it, I think Rampage by KO is more likely.
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                      • flyingillini
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-06-06
                        • 41219

                        #12
                        I put $500.00 on Lister @ +330
                        המוסד‎
                        המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                        • Bread
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-16-08
                          • 23726

                          #13
                          Man I don't know about Rampage so much. I like the guy too...but Wandy just throws bombs.
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                          • Bon
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 12-09-08
                            • 21

                            #14
                            Rampage has one hell of a chin, throws straight punches, has the better hand speed, better KO power... and the better wrestling, strength & power. He only lost because of conditioning before, but that will be taken care of in this fight.
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                            • innovator
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 11-28-08
                              • 238

                              #15
                              i think rampage will land something clean and wand will have trouble. that clinch is an open door to uppercut city..wand will think it's a cakewalk and be suprised..but i also think rampage can't fight like he's been fighting as of late or he will just lose again.
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                              • Robyn
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-05-08
                                • 9681

                                #16
                                I wish Rampage the best of luck. I am just not convinced that he has been able to clear the cobwebs just yet. This fight will be quite telling.
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                                • The Seer
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-29-07
                                  • 10641

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MickChunky
                                  Silva is on top of his game right now and if you saw the weigh-ins he struck fear into Jackson's heart.
                                  You must not have kept up with MMA in the past couple of years. He's 3-4 in his last 7 fights. He is not the Wandy of old. 2 of his last three losses were by KO. Also, the last time he beat Jackson was 4 years ago. Alot has changed since then. If Rampage can get past the intimidation factor, he should win this time.
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                                  • Robyn
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-05-08
                                    • 9681

                                    #18
                                    Well hello there, Seer. I didn't know you followed MMA.
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                                    • Bread
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-16-08
                                      • 23726

                                      #19
                                      From what I gather The Seer could beat up everyone on this board, including Willie Bee. Probably a given that he enjoys a good MMA fight from time to time.
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                                      • blackNgoldjuice
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 09-25-08
                                        • 529

                                        #20
                                        Forrest dwarfs Rashad and should take the decision. If Rashad wins, it is not going to the judges
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                                        • innovator
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 11-28-08
                                          • 238

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Robyn
                                          Well hello there, Seer. I didn't know you followed MMA.

                                          you mean.."well hello beautiful"
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                                          • Bread
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-16-08
                                            • 23726

                                            #22
                                            WTF? Is The Seer the Innovator too???
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                                            • blackNgoldjuice
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 09-25-08
                                              • 529

                                              #23
                                              Al Turk might be a good Dog pick. Has great submission skills and Kongo is lost on the ground
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                                              • innovator
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 11-28-08
                                                • 238

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Bread
                                                WTF? Is The Seer the Innovator too???


                                                that joker line man..
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                                                • innovator
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 11-28-08
                                                  • 238

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by blackNgoldjuice
                                                  Al Turk might be a good Dog pick. Has great submission skills and Kongo is lost on the ground

                                                  his stand up sucks + he has no takedown defense.
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                                                  • Robyn
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-05-08
                                                    • 9681

                                                    #26
                                                    Bread, The Seer is the resident SBR stud. When us ladies showed up about a year ago, he was the first to show his real picture and manly muscles in his avatars (which prompted pavy to produce his pool boy picture which you are so fond of). jjgold is envious of The Seer and also pool boy.
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                                                    • Robyn
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-05-08
                                                      • 9681

                                                      #27
                                                      Bread, I am too lazy to look it up. Which are the fights on the card that will NOT be shown on the PPV tonight?

                                                      thanks, pal.
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                                                      • Bread
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-16-08
                                                        • 23726

                                                        #28
                                                        Robyn...just the ones written about up there are guaranteed to be shown. Some undercard will probably sneak in, but no guarantees.
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                                                        • blackNgoldjuice
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 09-25-08
                                                          • 529

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by innovator
                                                          his stand up sucks + he has no takedown defense.
                                                          He wants to get taken down. Can do work off his back. Kongo will kill him on his feet
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                                                          • Robyn
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-05-08
                                                            • 9681

                                                            #30
                                                            I don't like "no guarantees".

                                                            p.s. Let's make some guesses as to whom they will show in the crowd tonight as a "celebrity fan".

                                                            I will go with any of the following:

                                                            Mickey Rourke
                                                            Joey Lawrence
                                                            Shannon Elizabeth
                                                            Brendan Fraser
                                                            Benicio Del Toro
                                                            Gary Oldman
                                                            Don Cheadle

                                                            But not Kevin James, because he already pimped himself out last time...or wait, maybe he WILL be there trying to get Nogueira's name right this time.
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                                                            • Bread
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-16-08
                                                              • 23726

                                                              #31
                                                              Green Mile will be there. So will Jenna Jamison's 2 vaginas.
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                                                              • blackNgoldjuice
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 09-25-08
                                                                • 529

                                                                #32
                                                                50 Cent
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                                                                • Robyn
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 02-05-08
                                                                  • 9681

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Fiddy was there two cards ago, right? What was he promoting? Oh yeah, his shitty MTV reality show. These fools are always promoting SOMETHING.

                                                                  I hate hollywood.
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                                                                  • mmike032
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-11-08
                                                                    • 8905

                                                                    #34
                                                                    is this tonight?
                                                                    gonna have to check and see how much Mediacom is charging for it.
                                                                    probally way to much
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                                                                    • Bread
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 03-16-08
                                                                      • 23726

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Probably $50-60.
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