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  • Bread
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-16-08
    • 23726

    #1
    TUF Finale Predictions
    TUF FINALE PREDICTIONS

    The last time that I wrote about the UFC, which just happened to be earlier this week, my picks went 4-0. I feel pretty strongly about keeping that streak alive for Saturday’s ‘The Ultimate Fighter’ live finale on Spike TV. By the way, if you missed Wednesday’s Fight for the Troops event, you escaped one of the most brutal nights of MMA ever. To recap quickly, Josh Koscheck knocked out Yoshida twice in a five second span, Razak Al-Hassan didn’t tap and his arm went the wrong way, Ben Saunders almost murdered a guy with non-stop knees to the head, and poor Corey Hill’s shin snapped in half. The fights were good, but the injuries were almost too much for even the most rabid fan to stomach. Then I remembered that I just went 4-0 and everything was OK in Bread’s world.

    This pretty much sums up the last event’s violence

    That brings us to The Ultimate Fighter’s eighth season’s finale. As usual I watched every single episode. This was not the most entertaining season by a long shot, but it could produce three or four household names for the UFC. That’s not bad considering that the last four installments have created maybe 4 or 5 recognizable fighters. On to some winning picks! All lines posted are from 5dimes.


    Phillipe Nover -375
    Efrain Escudero +313

    I will always remember Nover (6-0-1) for three things: Passing out when he first earned his way into the house, eating some Filipino delicacy that involved cooking a nearly hatched bird inside its shell, and completely dominating anyone he faced en route to the finals. It is safe to say that Nover’s career as a nurse has come to an end as there is a bright future for him in MMA. I personally find it magical that he can snap your arm, and then put it in a sling for you. Good guy.

    Nover is a huge favorite over Escudero (11-0-0), and rightfully so. He looks like the guy to beat coming out of the lightweight division. Efrain’s legacy on the show was his rivalry with dirtbag Junie Browning. To earn his way into the finals, he had to beat him, and he handled the overhyped head case with ease. Thank God. The path to the UFC contract just got about a million times tougher facing Nover.

    I’m looking forward to this matchup more than any other on the card, and I’m taking Efrain for the money. I know Nover is talented. Dana White has even referenced him as his next Anderson Silva. That’s pretty heavy stuff. But in Escudero I have seen tons of potential. He handled some tumultuous situations with poise, and looked pretty savvy himself in the octagon. Nover will become a household name win or lose tonight. I think Escudero has a decent chance to pull of this upset and will be looking to cash on those nice odds.


    Vinicius Magalhaes -180
    Ryan Bader +158

    I originally predicted that Vinny Magalhaes (3-2-1) would be a -550 favorite. I was wrong. If you were on the ball, he actually started out as a +200 dog. His odds have been catapulting, and I expect by fight time, they may be closer to -300. We’ll see. Either way, I’m all over this world class jiu-jitsu star waiting to happen. My reasoning has just as much to do with Vinny, who seems to show off during his fights with his vast tactical array of moves, as it does with his opponent, Ryan Bader.

    Bader (8-0-0) is Dana White’s nightmare. He is a pure wrestler with little room for improvement on other parts of his game. In his semifinal victory over Eliot Marshall, he wrestled his opponent to the ground and kept him pinned for almost the entire three rounds. Gee, that’s great if you’re fighting Hulk Hogan, but boring is not what got the UFC where it is today. Throw in the fact that this clown is nicknamed “Darth” (get it? Darth Bader? Get it?!?!), and there is no way I’m betting against Vinny here. This might be the easiest fight I’ve ever seen. Have at it.

    Vinny Magalhaes is good

    Wilson Gouveia -125
    Jason MacDonald +105

    One of two fights on the card with nothing to do with the reality show. And wouldn’t you know it, they gave me the ultimate Pink Hamster! Jason MacDonald! MacDonald (22-10-0) has been busting out the fights, as this will be his fourth battle of 2008. That equals four times that he has been lit up like a giant pink Christmas tree. What a great year.

    I’m not really sure why Gouveia (11-5-0) is getting the slight edge here. MacDonald has the much more impressive resume, losing to Rich Franklin, Yushin Okami and Demian Maia. He has beaten established fighters Ed Herman, Chris Leben and Jason Lambert. Gouveia did beat the guy who beat up Kimbo Slice though. Whoop dee doo. I will be taking MacDonald to represent the Pink Hamster Army.

    Full Pink Hamster fashion

    Junie Browning -340
    Dave Kaplan +280

    Do you know what I love about UFC ring announcer Bruce Buffer the most? Not his magical hair or his sneak attack intros. It’s his ability to get me pumped up for the most asinine fight in the history of mankind. Buffer could get me excited for Dustin Diamond vs. Willie Bee. I don’t care. With that being said, it would be really cool if Buffer could intro this fight like this:

    “Introducing…in this cor-nerr, (sudden Buffer misdirection) we have Junie Browning (2-1-0), the biggest dirt bag in the history of the YOO EFF SEE-YAH. He should be in prison for his bottle throwing antics. He has no cardio, but more importantly, he has no heart. He’s all talk and alcohol fumes. I don’t know why he’s still here, but here he is…JUNIE BROWNING-AHHH!!”

    “And in this cor-nerr, (Buffer misdirection) we have Dave Kaplan (3-1-0). He’s not as hated, but hated all the same. The only man who has never been knocked out, even though we all saw it happen, who just happens to be the greatest fighter of all time in his own mind…DAVE!! KAPLAN-AAAHHHH!!”

    Bruce Buffer is not impressed

    That would make me very happy. Browning is a punk. I don’t know how he remained on the show after his numerous escapades, but here he is. Nothing that he ever did on the show impressed me. I don’t care that he’s been training with Xtreme Couture. I see this as a 50-50 chance fight. And for that very reason I’ll be on Kaplan at +280. Keep your kids away from the TV in fear that they might catch something from Junie.


    John Polakowski -125
    Rolando Delgado +105

    Buried way at the bottom of the undercard you will find this nugget. Polakowski (2-1-0) is up against Delgado (7-3-1). This fight will generate the least interest of the lot, no doubt. But I think that Polakowski is a gem at these odds.

    First of all, the comedy factor alone will be reason enough to hope that this one somehow gets aired. Polakowski was a serial hugger on the show. Nobody was safe. At times it looked like coach Frank Mir was going to snap from his man-hug homophobia taking him over. Oh, this serial hugger’s nickname is “Buckets of Blood”. Good stuff.

    Delgado’s nickname is “The Crazy Cuban”, even though this guy looks about as Latin as Conan O’Brien. Unreal.

    Delgado was the worst fighter on the show. He will be telling his grandkids one day about how he went a full three rounds with an out of breath Junie Browning. It was just pitiful. Polakowski was the second-worst fighter on the show, but that still ranks miles ahead of Delgado’s game. He can even claim some fights in the WEC. Polakowski will win this fight, and hug everyone in Las Vegas. I hope Mir is nowhere to be found.

    Not the fight of the night...unless you’re gambling on it

    Last edited by Willie Bee; 12-13-08, 10:15 AM. Reason: add front page link
  • TheGovernor11
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-17-08
    • 583

    #2
    In regards to the Gouveia Macdonald fight, Gouveia's the slight favorite (or was until the moron failed to make weight) because of his skill set and dominant performances in the past. Macdonald's the better grappler but not by much. Gouveia's no slouch on the ground and is a BJJ black belt as well. On the feet, there is no question that Gouveia is the better striker.

    I think it's very debatable to say who has the better resume but I have to go against you. Neither has beaten quality competition in the UFC and both have similar records in the Octagon (Macdonald 5-3; Gouveia 5-2). Macdonald has fought better competition but when he has stepped in levels, he lost decisively. Gouveia on the otherhand, while having one brutal KO loss in the UFC, can make the argument that this should be his only loss as it's very debatable that he lose his debut fight against Keith Jardine. I guess what it comes down to is what's more impressive, fighting better competition and losing or fighting weaker competition and winning. For me, it's definitely the latter.

    With this all said though, I'm now leaning slightly towards Macdonald to win after Gouveia failed to make weight. I was already weary of Macdonald grinding out a decision before Gouviea showed up out of shape and this just heightens those concerns. Regardless, i threw 3 units down on Gouveia earlier in the week when i thought the line was in my favor so i'll be rooting for him. However if Macdonald wins it, i won't be surprised.
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    • The HOFF
      SBR MVP
      • 07-02-08
      • 4847

      #3
      (sudden Buffer misdirection)

      So that's what it's called.
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      • Bread
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-16-08
        • 23726

        #4
        Good info on Gouveia not making weight Gov. That definitely pushes me even further in the Pink Hamster's direction.


        Hoff...The Buffer Misdirection is the best.

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        • Robyn
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-05-08
          • 9681

          #5
          That is the best gif on the face of the earth. THe sneezing baby panda mixed with The Buffer. Excellent. It's almost as good as the dog grabbing monkey:


          When are we going to see this guy again?
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          • Bread
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-16-08
            • 23726

            #6
            UFC released him Robyn. Apparently there is fine print in the UFC not allowing any Predators.
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            • THE_LOCKSMITH
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-25-08
              • 7237

              #7
              Originally posted by Bread
              UFC released him Robyn. Apparently there is fine print in the UFC not allowing any Predators.
              Affliction just signed him to fight Renato Babalu Sobral on there January 24th card
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              • fiveteamer
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-14-08
                • 10805

                #8
                Jason MacDonald is the fav at Pinny.

                Should I bet it???????????????
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                • Bon
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 12-09-08
                  • 21

                  #9
                  I'll take Anthony Johnson. The first fight was a complete and utter one sided domination from Johnson's behalf until the poke in the eye. I don't see this fight playing out too much different as I don't see Burns being able to offer anything new for Johnson. Johnson has the edge in just about every department in this fight.

                  Also got money on Nover.
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                  • turbozed
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-15-08
                    • 2435

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bread
                    Good info on Gouveia not making weight Gov. That definitely pushes me even further in the Pink Hamster's direction.


                    Hoff...The Buffer Misdirection is the best.

                    I've heard it called the Buffer "fakey" since its first appearance about a year ago.

                    Great gif Bread. lolz
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                    • The HOFF
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-02-08
                      • 4847

                      #11
                      Not much to bet on as I like all the favorites and that is way too much chalk.

                      MAIN CARD
                      EFRAIN ESCUDERO +300 vs PHILLIPE NOVER -400

                      RYAN BADER +??? vs VINNY MAGAHALES +200*
                      *I got the opening line! I rule!

                      KEVIN BURNS +240 vs ANTHONY JOHNSON -300*
                      *Must wear swimming goggles.

                      WILSON GOUVEIA -105 vs JASON McDONALD -125*
                      *Pink Hamster/Ginger Kid chokes out chubby non-weight maker.

                      DAVE KAPLAN +260* vs F'ING BASTARD -320
                      *Won't win, I just hate the other guy.

                      UNDERCARD
                      SHANE PRIMM +295 vs KRZYSZTOF SOSZYNSKI -365

                      JULES BRUCHEZ +500 vs ELIOT MARSHALL -650

                      TOM LAWLOR +105* vs KYLE KINGSBURY -135
                      *Grizzly Man-beard at weigh-ins makes this my GEM of the night.

                      SHANE NELSON -105 vs GEORGE ROOP -125*
                      *Rhymes with poop.

                      ROLANDO DELGADO -105 vs JOHN POLAKOWSKI -125

                      My bets:
                      Magahales +200 (you are jealous)
                      McDonald -125
                      Lawlor +105
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                      • Bread
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-16-08
                        • 23726

                        #12
                        Hoff...LOL @ Junie (F'ing bastard). Good call.

                        I might do Lawlor too. But Polakowski I think is a pretty good call to actually bet on.
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                        • Robyn
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                          • 02-05-08
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                          #13
                          I like Efrain. I believe that he will beat Phillipe. I do not believe that Bader will beat Vinny, unless something horrible has happened to Vinny over the last few months.

                          Jason MacDonald looks like a mutant. He actually looks similar to the Beast from the old television show Beauty & the Beast. Remember this guy?



                          Junie Browning will win because I firmly believe that Dana White wants to touch him inappropriately. Why else would he match Junie up with the second in command douchebag of the season?

                          As for the rest, I agree with The Hoff's picks.
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                          • Bread
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                            • 03-16-08
                            • 23726

                            #14
                            Robyn we should get plastered with The Hoff and watch some UFC PPV's.
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                            • Robyn
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                              #15
                              I would like to watch UFC ppv's with The Hoff and BMW. But only if they don't shout "show me your !" to the Octagon girls whenever they walk by the camera. That would be a deal breaker for me.

                              Tell me that I wasn't dead on with the comparison between The Beast and MacDonald!
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                              • turbozed
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-15-08
                                • 2435

                                #16
                                Lol @ Beauty and the Beast reference. Good one Robyn.

                                You know that guy from that TV show is also Hellboy?





                                Oops just realized I'm getting way off topic.

                                I got Vinny at +200 and hedged the to-risk. This type of ML movement only happens in MMA. It's great!
                                Last edited by turbozed; 12-13-08, 04:39 PM.
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                                • Robyn
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                                  • 02-05-08
                                  • 9681

                                  #17
                                  Ron Perlman was The Beast??? I had no idea! But it makes a whole lot of sense. That poor man is so ugly, he could never play a role other than a disfigured character. Remember him in one of the Blade movies? Ick.
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                                  • Bread
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-16-08
                                    • 23726

                                    #18
                                    Everybody all together now:

                                    "Yes Robyn that was a good comparison."
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                                    • The HOFF
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-02-08
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Robyn
                                      I would like to watch UFC ppv's with The Hoff and BMW. But only if they don't shout "show me your !" to the Octagon girls whenever they walk by the camera. That would be a deal breaker for me.

                                      Tell me that I wasn't dead on with the comparison between The Beast and MacDonald!
                                      Tough one there. If there are 2 things that the Hoff loves: then it's and MMA.


                                      You were dead on.
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                                      • Bread
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-16-08
                                        • 23726

                                        #20
                                        Hoff...we all love . She is referencing a friend that we usually watch these with, who never ever is with a woman btw....who practically has an orgasm and yells for the girls to show him their whenever they walk by.

                                        It's just slightly annoying.

                                        You bring the beer. I'll bring the heroin.
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                                        • Robyn
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                                          • 02-05-08
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Bread
                                          Everybody all together now:

                                          "Yes Robyn that was a good comparison."
                                          Shut yo faeeeeeece.
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                                          • Bread
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-16-08
                                            • 23726

                                            #22
                                            Heading out to watch the fights. Good luck fellers.
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                                            • fiveteamer
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                                              • 04-14-08
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                                              #23
                                              Bread when does the MacDonald fight go off???????
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                                              • TheGovernor11
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                                                • 09-17-08
                                                • 583

                                                #24
                                                Fiveteamer-

                                                I'd say early like the second or third fight. I think the TUF finales are going to be slated as the "Main Events" and Junie is fighting around 9:05-9:10 (first televised fight of the night). So if i had to guess, somewhere between 9:30 and 10:30.
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                                                • fiveteamer
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                                                  • 04-14-08
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                                                  #25
                                                  ok.

                                                  i'm not familiar with UFC at all.

                                                  thanks.
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                                                  • TheGovernor11
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 09-17-08
                                                    • 583

                                                    #26
                                                    No problem man and it might happen even earlier. He's definitely the second fight of the televised portion and depending on how quickly the first fight ends, he could be in the ring at like 9:20ish. Just don't want you to miss the fight because of me.
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                                                    • TheGovernor11
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 09-17-08
                                                      • 583

                                                      #27
                                                      And Sam Bradford just won the Heisman.
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                                                      • fiveteamer
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                                                        #28
                                                        Are they fighting, its off the board now.
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                                                        • TheGovernor11
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                                                          • 09-17-08
                                                          • 583

                                                          #29
                                                          Nope, pre-hype for Junie match is happening right now. My first prediction seems about right now.
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                                                          • fiveteamer
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-14-08
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                                                            #30
                                                            oh yea my bad, still on the board.
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                                                            • The HOFF
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-02-08
                                                              • 4847

                                                              #31
                                                              BREAD!! WTF happened to us???? We used to be above average (lucky) at this!!


                                                              Let me tell you why I SUCK as an MMA Handicapper. First I get all EXCITED!! I'm like Jo Jo the idiot circus boy with a pretty new pet!! And then I hold him and pet him and... naughty, you're a naughty pet. GRHRFHRRKHFKRF!! OH MY GOD I KILLED HIM. And that's when I blow it. But that's when people like us, Bread, have to forge ahead.

                                                              Here's to us not going 0-10 at UFC ULTIMATE 2008.
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                                                              • Robyn
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-05-08
                                                                • 9681

                                                                #32
                                                                Efrain
                                                                Gouveia
                                                                Junie
                                                                Krzysztof
                                                                Eliot

                                                                I didn't pick any of the other fights. The only one I didn't nail was Vinny.
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