best way to cashout crypto ?

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  • Pete0
    SBR MVP
    • 04-09-10
    • 3849

    #1
    best way to cashout crypto ?
    coinbase ( or any exchange ) to any bank, is that the usual way?
    if so whats with the 1099 thingy?


    what about paperless?
    Bitcoin ATMs ?
    localbitcoin, localmonero?
    whats the best way to go about this without stupid high fees ?
  • MUHerd37
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-23-09
    • 12816

    #2
    Always used coinbase myself. Straight to the bank.
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    • BeatTheJerk
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 08-19-07
      • 31794

      #3
      Send to middle wallet or exchange & then to BitPay card.
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      • BeatTheJerk
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-19-07
        • 31794

        #4
        Originally posted by MUHerd37
        Always used coinbase myself. Straight to the bank.
        The taxes are far worse than the fees.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388189

          #5
          bitpay card a workaround
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          • funnyb25
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 07-09-09
            • 39656

            #6
            You made money investing in crypto?
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            • Pete0
              SBR MVP
              • 04-09-10
              • 3849

              #7
              Originally posted by funnyb25
              You made money investing in crypto?

              does it matter? lol

              was specifically asking for sportsbook cashout via crypto btw
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              • Brock Landers
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 06-30-08
                • 45360

                #8
                Withdrawal to Blockchain wallet

                Then withdraw directly to your bank account.

                Easy and fast
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                • funnyb25
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 07-09-09
                  • 39656

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pete0
                  does it matter? lol

                  was specifically asking for sportsbook cashout via crypto btw
                  Well, I was asking because if you are not making money off of the crypto, then what would the taxes be?
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                  • stake1
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-19-18
                    • 18116

                    #10
                    Originally posted by funnyb25
                    Well, I was asking because if you are not making money off of the crypto, then what would the taxes be?
                    that is the risky part. when you link crypto's to any bank account, you are being tracked/reported/audited. the irs can claim, the crypto deposits were gains to your benefit.
                    And to make matters worse? Xiden wants to install a "grandfathered-in-reverse-audit" where he can have all his new irs hires go back 10+ years to look at your "gains".
                    Xiden is doubling the staff at the Irs. you do not hire 88,000 new irs workers to just sit around and tweet all day
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                    • funnyb25
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 07-09-09
                      • 39656

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stake1
                      that is the risky part. when you link crypto's to any bank account, you are being tracked/reported/audited. the irs can claim, the crypto deposits were gains to your benefit.
                      And to make matters worse? Xiden wants to install a "grandfathered-in-reverse-audit" where he can have all his new irs hires go back 10+ years to look at your "gains".
                      Xiden is doubling the staff at the Irs. you do not hire 88,000 new irs workers to just sit around and tweet all day
                      But what I am asking is if there was no money made on the crypto, then what would the taxes be? The sites have spreadsheets, that show the amount at deposit and the amount at sale. OF course, they only report total proceeds, but there is a cost basis to those proceeds. What am I missing?
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                      • BuckyOne
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-02-15
                        • 2728

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                        Send to middle wallet or exchange & then to BitPay card.
                        Last time I did that the fees were so high

                        Like $15 for a $100. That was about a year ago. Is it any better, now?
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                        • BeatTheJerk
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                          • 08-19-07
                          • 31794

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BuckyOne
                          Last time I did that the fees were so high

                          Like $15 for a $100. That was about a year ago. Is it any better, now?
                          I use Gemini Exchange they pay the 1st 20 some odd transfers every calendar year. I’m paying about 2-3% from BitPay to transfer to card.
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                          • JIBBBY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83691

                            #14
                            Best way to cash out Crypto is into your personal bank account from Coinbase. Been doing it for years now. They charge a little fee to transfer Crypto into Cash but I can live with it.

                            Free to exchange to your bank if you can wait 3 days. Immediate transfer Coinbase charges another fee which I never use.

                            My transfer every time is Coinbase Cash to my Chase bank checking account direct. Never have a problem.

                            Now dealing with your taxes after that is up to you.. Gray area there.
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                            • Tanko
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-19-09
                              • 5140

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stake1
                              that is the risky part. when you link crypto's to any bank account, you are being tracked/reported/audited. the irs can claim, the crypto deposits were gains to your benefit.
                              And to make matters worse? Xiden wants to install a "grandfathered-in-reverse-audit" where he can have all his new irs hires go back 10+ years to look at your "gains".
                              Xiden is doubling the staff at the Irs. you do not hire 88,000 new irs workers to just sit around and tweet all day
                              A lot of the Crypto I've received has been in the form of repayment (e.g. I pick up the tab at a restaurant for friends, they send BTC - like Venmo only with BTC). I've also received gifts in BTC. The only thing I report on taxes is any earnings/losses on the BTC after it hits my wallet and I sell it, just like a stock.

                              It kind of sucks because usually I'm reporting a loss on the BTC value.
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                              • funnyb25
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-09-09
                                • 39656

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Tanko
                                A lot of the Crypto I've received has been in the form of repayment (e.g. I pick up the tab at a restaurant for friends, they send BTC - like Venmo only with BTC). I've also received gifts in BTC. The only thing I report on taxes is any earnings/losses on the BTC after it hits my wallet and I sell it, just like a stock.

                                It kind of sucks because usually I'm reporting a loss on the BTC value.
                                The fees don't seem like a big deal at the time per transaction, then at the end of the year when you realize what the fees added up to it sucks big time.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388189

                                  #17
                                  Its why savy gamblers bet with local bookmakers they are respected
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                                  • Tanko
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-19-09
                                    • 5140

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Its why savy gamblers bet with local bookmakers they are respected
                                    Wait. What...
                                    JJ, does your flaming bookie respect you afterwards?
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                                    • actiondan
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-16-10
                                      • 3401

                                      #19
                                      Fukk taxes uncle sam can suck my rooster
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388189

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Tanko
                                        Wait. What...
                                        JJ, does your flaming bookie respect you afterwards?
                                        I do not use those guys anymore, I think not many around this area
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                                        • lonegambler23
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-22-16
                                          • 9761

                                          #21
                                          locals> offshore
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                                          • greenpad
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 06-03-20
                                            • 24

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            bitpay card a workaround
                                            Now that bitpay no longer offer the pre paid debit card do you think the crypto.com card is a workaround just for cashing out?
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