Players beware! Myb casino / my bookie seized $210,000 winnings from account ad-hoc!

Without hitting a significant jackpot of some sorts (200+K) there is literally no way to do what you did without exploiting a flaw. You came to the wrong forum to sell that bullshit. So just stop with the 9 month "lucky" heater shit. You are so unbelievably lucky to have got 84k out before they caught you. You've used up all your "luck".


Anyone believing your bullshit story is just ignorant and/or have not been around the industry and gaming very long and doesn't have an understanding of Mathematics, RNG, and variance within reason.


Yeah and I work for my bookie too.

Originally Posted by Mr. NBA

Without hitting a significant jackpot of some sorts (200+K) there is literally no way to do what you did without exploiting a flaw. You came to the wrong forum to sell that bullshit. So just stop with the 9 month "lucky" heater shit. You are so unbelievably lucky to have got 84k out before they caught you. You've used up all your "luck".


Anyone believing your bullshit story is just ignorant and/or have not been around the industry and gaming very long and doesn't have an understanding of Mathematics, RNG, and variance within reason.


Yeah and I work for my bookie too.

A bunch of us have tried NBA. For some people math is "garbage."

Originally Posted by Mr. NBA

Without hitting a significant jackpot of some sorts (200+K) there is literally no way to do what you did without exploiting a flaw. You came to the wrong forum to sell that bullshit. So just stop with the 9 month "lucky" heater shit. You are so unbelievably lucky to have got 84k out before they caught you. You've used up all your "luck".

Anyone believing your bullshit story is just ignorant and/or have not been around the industry and gaming very long and doesn't have an understanding of Mathematics, RNG, and variance within reason.
Yeah and I work for my bookie too.

Good to see that you have popped back on this board after being a ghost for a month, only to jump in on the #1 post thread on SBR. I know' it's tough reading about this incident and trying to hold back from chiming in.

Apparently, you know about money being stolen as well, and it clearly doesn't sit well with you; especially for guy whom claims to have made "millions" of bets over the past 24 years. You talk about a bullshit story? Not that's a BULLSHIT STORY right there. Millions of bets. Beyond comical.

Good try though. Your post in THIS forum thread is deemed invalid by sheer default of your comments below. You stated the exact opposite just a month ago. Go swim in another lane, Sir. You lost complete credibility in just a heartbeat.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post30133809

Last edited by Mr. NBA; 03-03-21 at 11:26 PM.
They are the last book that stole money from me........I made a big thread about it here and at other forums severals years ago. 4 ish years ago

The cliff notes:

Over the years I deposited multiple times to play their casino as I truly loved their software and felt the games played more than fair. Fathers day rolled around and they sent me a sweet fathers day casino bonus. I deposit and proceed to run it up to 2.5k. I easily smash the rollover and request a withdraw. They email me back saying I violated the terms of the bonus. Sure enough buried in their rules in the finest of prints was the ole get out of jail free card that they planted there for moments just like this. When using the casino bonus chips the MAX per hand is $10 (per their fine print rules), but yet their software let you bet $25 a hand which is what I was betting not knowing about the buried fine print. Does that sound like an A book? I tipped my cap as they got me....bush league by a supposed industry leader for which I had dumped thousands to prior.

Yeah I'm sure a good number.......just stupid short sighted business model. If you are gonna bury a get out of jail free card in fine print you'd think you would be more selective when using it. (use it if a guy hits a 100k jackpot etc) I was a long time BIG loser there who authentically liked using their casino. I would of given that money back many times over and also not spent nearly 3 years bringing this thievery to life every chance I get.

Last edited by Mr. NBA; 03-03-21 at 11:26 PM.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post30178431
03-27-21 10:48 AM
"I have placed millions of bets over 24 years of betting online and I can probably count on one hand how many bets I've made have been graded incorrectly."

Originally Posted by ace7550

A bunch of us have tried NBA. For some people math is "garbage."

He's insulting our intelligence....over.....and......over.. ......and........over again. Enough already.....take the damn 84k and consider yourself the luckiest man on these forums and not because you exploited a flaw and won, but because you got paid and not paid some chicken shit figure either.


Congrats

Originally Posted by Mr. NBA

He's insulting our intelligence....over.....and......over.. ......and........over again. Enough already.....take the damn 84k and consider yourself the luckiest man on these forums and not because you exploited a flaw and won, but because you got paid and not paid some chicken shit figure either.


Congrats

Disagree with the first part of your post. Your comments are not based upon any facts. You don't know. It is luck. All it is. Just luck.

Second part of the post. Thank you. I still want the rest of the balance. They owe me that money. They need to pay up. They know it too.

Originally Posted by RAIDER1223

Good to see that you have popped back on this board after being a ghost for a month, only to jump in on the #1 post thread on SBR. I know' it's tough reading about this incident and trying to hold back from chiming in.

Apparently, you know about money being stolen as well, and it clearly doesn't sit well with you; especially for guy whom claims to have made "millions" of bets over the past 24 years. You talk about a bullshit story? Not that's a BULLSHIT STORY right there. Millions of bets. Beyond comical.

Good try though. Your post in THIS forum thread is deemed invalid by sheer default of your comments below. You stated the exact opposite just a month ago. Go swim in another lane, Sir. You lost complete credibility in just a heartbeat.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post30133809

Last edited by Mr. NBA; 03-03-21 at 11:26 PM.
They are the last book that stole money from me........I made a big thread about it here and at other forums severals years ago. 4 ish years ago

The cliff notes:

Over the years I deposited multiple times to play their casino as I truly loved their software and felt the games played more than fair. Fathers day rolled around and they sent me a sweet fathers day casino bonus. I deposit and proceed to run it up to 2.5k. I easily smash the rollover and request a withdraw. They email me back saying I violated the terms of the bonus. Sure enough buried in their rules in the finest of prints was the ole get out of jail free card that they planted there for moments just like this. When using the casino bonus chips the MAX per hand is $10 (per their fine print rules), but yet their software let you bet $25 a hand which is what I was betting not knowing about the buried fine print. Does that sound like an A book? I tipped my cap as they got me....bush league by a supposed industry leader for which I had dumped thousands to prior.

Yeah I'm sure a good number.......just stupid short sighted business model. If you are gonna bury a get out of jail free card in fine print you'd think you would be more selective when using it. (use it if a guy hits a 100k jackpot etc) I was a long time BIG loser there who authentically liked using their casino. I would of given that money back many times over and also not spent nearly 3 years bringing this thievery to life every chance I get.

Last edited by Mr. NBA; 03-03-21 at 11:26 PM.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post30178431
03-27-21 10:48 AM
"I have placed millions of bets over 24 years of betting online and I can probably count on one hand how many bets I've made have been graded incorrectly."

lol.....was supposed to be millions of dollars worth of bets.

Originally Posted by Mr. NBA

lol.....was supposed to be millions of dollars worth of bets.

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by RAIDER1223

only to jump in on the #1 post thread on SBR.

Originally Posted by ace7550

I know. It's good huh? Not bad for only 8 days:

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Nothing out there on SBR in this "group" come close.

(I try to keep it light humor at times. Good for all of us, even though My Bookie still owes me the money)

Originally Posted by ace7550

If you read up on Standard Deviation it will help you understand why we say that it's mathematically impossible.

How much could he win and it be "mathematically possible" over that period of time?

Originally Posted by Patrick McIrish

How much could he win and it be "mathematically possible" over that period of time?

The numbers needed to run that equation are:
1. His average bet. (sounds like it's about $5)
2. The players win % (probably between 45-47%. I think that's what most slots are designed to give up.)
3. Maximum jackpot. I think he said the most he ever won on a spin was $2,000.
4. Number of hands played (sounds like it was quite a lot.)
It's a complex equation and I don't have all the numbers to do it (nor do I want to waste the time)
Here's a standard deviation calculator if you want to mess around with it:
https://www.calculator.net/standard-...lculator.html?

Originally Posted by ace7550

If you read up on Standard Deviation it will help you understand why we say that it's mathematically impossible.
For example, if you flip a coin 100 times standard deviation says that you will get heads 45-55 times 68% of the time and 40-60 times 95% of the time.
According to standard deviation (it's a mathematical principal, not a theory) the game/s you were playing was +ev.

LOL You don't know that the game(s) he was playing were +EV or not! You only know HE came out on the plus side!

Because you only have HIS results & not ALL the results from ALL the players spins during that period of time!!


Your "standard deviation" figures and coin flip percentages are based on ONE person doing it!

But HE wasn't the only one playing the slots at their casino! Hundreds of people were probably playing at same time.

If 100 different people flip a coin 100 times then some of them might get 80 - 20 heads tails ratio while somebody

else got 20-80 heads tails ratio, some would get 70-30 heads while others got 30-70, thus making ALL the flips together

come out near the expected results. It wasn't JUST HIM playing those slots! A lot of other people were playing too.

So How do you know that other players weren't losing huge on the same game while he was winning huge at it?

You have to put together ALL the other players combined spins along with his spins during the 9 months to see whether

the casino made or lost money OVERALL. They may have made exactly what the expected return was from all the spins

combined! You can't just look at one players results! Others may have been losing almost EVERY spin while he was

winning! Thus making the combined win/loss results from ALL players exactly what the casino should be expecting!

Originally Posted by JoeCool20

LOL You don't know that the game(s) he was playing were +EV or not! You only know HE came out on the plus side!

Because you only have HIS results & not ALL the results from ALL the players spins during that period of time!!


Your "standard deviation" figures and coin flip percentages are based on ONE person doing it!

But HE wasn't the only one playing the slots at their casino! Hundreds of people were probably playing at same time.

If 100 different people flip a coin 100 times then some of them might get 80 - 20 heads tails ratio while somebody

else got 20-80 heads tails ratio, some would get 70-30 heads while others got 30-70, thus making ALL the flips together

come out near the expected results. It wasn't JUST HIM playing those slots! A lot of other people were playing too.

So How do you know that other players weren't losing huge on the same game while he was winning huge at it?

You have to put together ALL the other players combined spins along with his spins during the 9 months to see whether

the casino made or lost money OVERALL. They may have made exactly what the expected return was from all the spins

combined! You can't just look at one players results! Others may have been losing almost EVERY spin while he was

winning! Thus making the combined win/loss results from ALL players exactly what the casino should be expecting!

Statistically, it does not matter if it was only him doing it or many players.

Let's take a different example. Let's say someone you know flipped a coin 1,000 times and it came up heads all 1,000 times. You'd probably suspect that the coin and/or his flipping motion were rigged, right? You wouldn't say "Well, his 1,000 heads are probably balanced out by 1,000 tails some guy in China just flipped." That would be preposterous. Same principle here. The numbers are the numbers.

My comments re: this thread

[1] It is obvious the OP **knows** there was a flaw in the slots(s) and that the OP exploited it. Note the OP's obfuscation when asked several times (in earlier posts) what his average/typical bet size was. He smoke-screened and refused to answer this because whilst the OP may not be the sharpest card in the deck, even he knows that it is mathematically impossible to rack up several 100K winnings on a slot with $5 bets (and he admits no jackpots hit). Eventually (after further pressing making it impossible to not answer without raising suspicion) the OP finally admits that his average/typical bet was $5. So initially we know that the OP **knew** he was exploiting a flaw and he tried to hide this from this forum. Note also that the OP has given up pretending that he did not know the slot was flawed (initially he denied it but then later makes statements such as "even if it was flawed, it is not my fault"). I refer the reader to several excellent posts (above) re: the maths and stats regarding this.

[2] The issue of whether or not a customer has the right to exploit a flaw and expect to get paid: If someone had come to this forum stating that they had bet a palpable error (i.e. a mistaken line or mistaken odds) and then expected to get paid I know exactly what this forum would say - "You are a chancer - we all play by the rules - you should not expect to get paid - go away". I have seen this many times before. No-one here who has any experience will support someone trying to cash in on bad lines / bad odds offered by a bookmaker.

[3] Exploiting a flawed slot is indistinguishable from betting a palpable error - in both cases the customer does not have a leg to stand on and we all know this

[4] The OP's strategy appears to be that for those posts he cannot refute (those based on maths and stats) he obfuscates. For those with even a glimmer of support he pretends that the post is fully supportive. The OP has only one objective which is to attempt to gain a further 210K after deliberately exploiting a flawed slot

[5] The OP pretends that the number of views of this thread is somehow related to "support" for him exploiting a flaw in a slot and expecting to get paid. In reality, readers of this forum are interested in seeing the results of a customer with a "claim" against a bookmaker for 6 figures and how the situation pans out - irrespective of what finally happens. This interest in no way equates to support - and based on the prior posts in this thread I would assess that readers are fully aware that exploitation of a flawed slot has occurred in this case and that support (if any) is related to a dislike of MB or bookmakers in general and is NOT related to the merits of this particular case (which clearly has no merit)

[6] Summary - the OP took advantage of a flawed slot. His obfuscation adds weight to the inescapable conclusion that the OP **knew** the slot was flawed. Betting a flawed slot is not distinguishable from betting a palpable error. There is no sympathy on this forum for those who bet obvious palps and then expect to get paid. The OP has remarkably been able to withdraw 84K - probably due to MB incompetence at not discovering the slot flaw sooner. The OP now wishes to attempt to gain a further 210k and expects this forum to support him. He expects support for betting a palp. This forum does not support those who bet a palp and expect to get paid. I doubt that MB will pay a dime more.

Originally Posted by DontTailMe

Statistically, it does not matter if it was only him doing it or many players.

Let's take a different example. Let's say someone you know flipped a coin 1,000 times and it came up heads all 1,000 times. You'd probably suspect that the coin and/or his flipping motion were rigged, right? You wouldn't say "Well, his 1,000 heads are probably balanced out by 1,000 tails some guy in China just flipped." That would be preposterous. Same principle here. The numbers are the numbers.

Thank you DTM.
Gamblers fallacy definition:
The gambler's fallacy, also known as the Monte Carlo fallacy or the fallacy of the maturity of chances, is the erroneous belief that if a particular event occurs more frequently than normal during the past it is less likely to happen in the future, when it has otherwise been established that the probability of such events does not depend on what has happened in the past.