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Last edited by Wallco99; 11-02-13 at 04:58 PM.
Wallco, are you saying that your strategy will provide more units and is better than the one that THELIMIT has just laid out. (more units and better compared to years past)Originally Posted by thelimit0310
1-7/5 System Description
The 1-7/5 plays all versions of the JM System. Originally the 7/5 method skipped the A bet, but this is no longer the case in the 1-7/5 method. We now play all A bets in the JM system, but we still *DO NOT* buy any points. Now when an A bet is available, we place a wager to win 1 unit, again not buying any points. If this A bet wins, of course the series is over. If the A bet loses however, it *MUST* lose by more than 3.5 points to the given spread to move on to the B/C level. If the A bet loses but by less than 3.5 points to the spread, you take your A bet loss and the series is over. Think of the A bet as essentially a flat bet, but also a qualifier game for the 7/5 system. If the A bet loses by more than 3.5 points to the spread, it qualifies the B bet. PUSHES DO NOT MEAN LOSSES. On the B bet, place your wager to win net 7 units (A bet loss + 7 units), again we are not buying points. If this bet wins, the series is over. If this bet loses we move to the C bet, on the C bet we place a wager to win net 5 units (A bet loss + B bet loss + 5 units). If this bet wins, the series is over. If this bet loses, the series is over and a loss for the system is taken. One loss in 1-7/5 is roughly -26 units, so plan your unit size accordingly.
Just remember if our initial A bet loses, it *MUST* lose by more than 3.5 points to the spread for the series to continue to B and C. If it does not lose by more than 3.5 points, you take your loss and move on! Again, this is because the A bet is still being used as the qualifier bet for the 7/5. Just so everyone is clear on this: If New Orleans has an A bet and the spread is +6, New Orleans would have to lose the game by 9.5 points at least for this series to move on to B and C. If they lose by less than 9.5 points, the series stops. PUSHES DO NOT MEAN LOSSES.
It is also important to note that no series can even qualify for this system before Nov 1. So series that started yesterday are the first viable series of the season. Series that started during October are disqualified.
Here is a link to the main description, keep in mind it is slightly outdated and does not reference the 1-7/5.
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/nba-basket...l#post13698541
READ THE DESCRIPTION BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS IT HAS PROBABLY ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED. Thank you!
No, I made a mistake. The way thelimit laid it out is how I initially set it up in my reference in post #195. A few pages back I stated that this system was not backtested, then when I found the backtest, I couldn't figure out why I didn't remember that I tested it. The reason is, I didn't play it exactly how I tested it, I played ALL JM series to the end, regardless of the 3 1/2 point (A) bet filter. This was the difference from my original version, and was the part I never backtested. I did very well that way, but no evidence of it being better than my original version in prior seasons.Wallco, are you saying that your strategy will provide more units and is better than the one that THELIMIT has just laid out. (more units and better compared to years past)
But actually, I kept a pretty detailed spreadsheet when testing the 1-3-5, 7/5 & 1-7-5, and figuring out what my unit counts would have been had I played ALL series to the end just may not be too hard to figure out. I will let you know.
I updated my backtest sheet of 1-7-5, for the past few seasons, to include playing ALL JM series to the end and not stopping on a -1.10 unit loss if bet doesn't lose by 3.5 points to the spread.
The Results show the +/- unit counts had we played ALL series to the end and ignoring the 3 1/2 point filter.
2008-09: I backtested this season but a large portion of my data somehow got deleted, will have to redo.
2009-10: We would have netted +53.44 more units.
2010-11: We would have netted +73.88 more units.
2011-12: We would have netted -88.64 units.
2012-13: I did very well playing this last year, but do not have full record done yet, but feel strongly that it netted more units.
Even with this limited backtest I still plan to play it this way this season. As I compile more backtested results, I will post them.
I played SA tonight
Me too.I played SA tonight
Not sure what I will do beyond tonight after reading all of the backtest results but I too do have a 7 unit "to win" wager on the Spurs tonight so I am hoping they come through for us!
Not sure what I will do beyond tonight after reading all of the backtest results but I too do have a 7 unit "to win" wager on the Spurs tonight so I am hoping they come through for us!
I'm gonna stick with thelimit as it is fully backtested
Is it more than 3,5 point a team have to lose with to qualify for a 7/5 play?
Yes, I backtested it last year as well. We're talking the same thing, just I play it differently, not looking for others to do so. I will finish the 8-10 year backtest of the strategy I am playing and post when I am complete. But for now, I would reccommend the original way I laid it out, playing the (A) bets in addition to the 7/5 for 1 unit, and stopping the series if the (A) bet fails to cover the 3.5 point filter.I'm gonna stick with thelimit as it is fully backtested
Last edited by Wallco99; 11-03-13 at 01:01 AM.
RECAP 11/2/2013
A. Houston -6 vs Utah
NEXT PLAYS
11/3/2013 V3 PHO (A) VS OKC
11/3/2013 V1 ATL (A) VS LAL
PROFIT: -$10
Record
A) 1-1
B) 0-0
C) 0-0
Reference Post #184
For those of you that played SA last night (), C game is on Tuesday.
3.5 plus the spread. Take SA on Friday. They were favored by 7.5 (my line). They won the game by 6 points...losing to the spread by 1.5 points, therefore no play on actual 7/5. If they had won the game by only 3 points, they would lost to the spread by 4.5, therefore making it a play on the B game at 7 units.Is it more than 3,5 point a team have to lose with to qualify for a 7/5 play?
Is this correct Wallco/Limit?
