HARD CONTROL ON ID makes me to a looser

So we all admit that all bookmakers play unfair, including tha fact they all put the rule We reserve the right to do with your account what we want. Thats pretty silly. Its not time of slavery to allow somebody to do what he wants to do with you. Why dont all recreational players give their houses to bookmakers from the beginning and dont bother about bets at all? Cose there is nothing that can beat the mathematic theories - you cant win with lines like -110 or -120.
No matter if this swedish guy is guilty or not, you cant jump against him exactly becose bookmakers have at least 20 advantages against all players - rulles, bettingspread, information, limits, computer analizes, whole teams, and so on. And most of the players stand alone against. How do you then dear to think to win some money from them? And more.....

Originally Posted by kkkkk

So we all admit that all bookmakers play unfair, including tha fact they all put the rule We reserve the right to do with your account what we want. Thats pretty silly. Its not time of slavery to allow somebody to do what he wants to do with you. Why dont all recreational players give their houses to bookmakers from the beginning and dont bother about bets at all? Cose there is nothing that can beat the mathematic theories - you cant win with lines like -110 or -120.
No matter if this swedish guy is guilty or not, you cant jump against him exactly becose bookmakers have at least 20 advantages against all players - rulles, bettingspread, information, limits, computer analizes, whole teams, and so on. And most of the players stand alone against. How do you then dear to think to win some money from them? And more.....

It's easy, just dont use offshore and go to vegas.

I want to confirm that I have friends as I write before because bookies not allowed me to bet for £1 or in some cases £0. (I am not alone). But the friends allowed me to bet in their names and I pay them too. So this was the only solution for me go on with my betting but I changed my mind (as I told) because the hard ID controll lately. Its to much paperwork for me but I am old. So I am the criminal here ? or a scumbag? Some online bookies makes their living to block player accounts. At least a few of them or help them very much. Players lose. Bookies win.

I welcome a debate on the topic that was why I wrote the post. Then maybe online bookies by time realize that they will not be able to continue as they do, if not online sportsbetting shall die by itself. For limiting a customer who opened the account one week before. Then when the player wants to withdraw the money so they require ID document directly. Unacceptable in my opinion. However, there are companies that are closing accounts quick and sending withdrawals back without ID checks. Then I think it's OK. They close your account but at least they pay you quick without hazzle. Not good because they limit quick but better. For example BetVictor and Stan James. So I accept them. There is a big difference.

Don't be so much against yourself,Djur, if you are going to fight against those injustices your have to believe in your cause. Everyone who has changed anything has been called a crime or fraud; look up the pretty chipss they wish they could put into everyones hands. All for our security, also look up bit coin - no ids no problems, a real solution to third pary varifcation and fiat moneys etc.

It's easy to beat recreational books that have a million different betting options with no volume, there's no way for them to get any type of accuracy with that. That's why they boot people who bet value. This is nothing new.

You still have pinnacle, SBO, ibc, betfair, matchbook and so on.


These are businesses. They are not obliged to take your action, they don't owe you anything. By scamming them with "friends and family" IDs you just make it more difficult for everyone else.

I also want to apologize because I wrote very sloppy but I was upset.

Originally Posted by Krashman

With convincing copies of your ID, fraudsters can impersonate you. They take out ************, bank loans in your name. They get the money, the bills come to you, you refuse to pay, your credit rating goes in the dumpster.

That's identity theft.

Not possible. Firstly how can they use your ID for anything when they aren't you? Do they only steal the ID's of people who look similar to them?

Secondly you can't open a bank account with a printed out paper version of a passport/driving license, you have to take the physical thing in so they can take a copy of it themselves for their records.

Fraudster complaining about not being paid LOLOL what a penetrating idiot!!

Not knowing how to spell loser makes you one too.

Bookies like to suggest that I.D checks are necessary to satisfy regulations put on them by the gaming board, which is true from a certain amount , however, most simply want your ID so they can identify the player, it´s part of risk management!

All the same, i wouldn´t be sending money to anyone if i knew beforehand what could happen, it´s a double bet!

Originally Posted by Djurgården

Example.

When Unibet was started around 15 years ago. I could easily bet for 3000£ per bet and I did so for a very long time. And withdraw funds easily without ID proof. No problem at that time. Today I can be lucky if UNIBET take 5£ in action from me. THAT IS NOT BETTING, they don´t want action or can´t call themself a bookmaker (from my view). The ID-docs started heavily for around 6-7 years ago. And it been worse...

In UNIBET case I read of multiple accounts that was blocked, just the same way as I describe. The money goes in UNIBETS their self. So this is a strategy from their side, to block accounts this way. AND THEY DO and earn their money this way. I do not like that.

So you have money need ID to get payout? is your money why not get fake ID,