In case you haven't noticed, I'm a big Hartmann fan. I've posted scads of his clips on this very forum over the years and Dwight has responded numerous times to them by calling him all kinds of foul names, saying what an idiot he is, and posting a John 'Bitch Slap' Stossel clip as rebuttal.Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER
Oh yeah,
exactly what did you mean with the connection between thom hartman and crazy?
Hence the irony of Dwight posting a Hartmann clip
Ok I see........
In case you haven't noticed, I'm a big Hartmann fan. I've posted scads of his clips on this very forum over the years and Dwight has responded numerous times to them by calling him all kinds of foul names, saying what an idiot he is, and posting a John 'Bitch Slap' Stossel clip as rebuttal.
Hence the irony of Dwight posting a Hartmann clip
I did not realize it was an inside joke between you and DS........
What would be even more ironic would be if I posted clips of Stossel shilling for agribusiness as a rebuttal to Dwight posting a Hartmann clip.
Once .... to how he was incorrect he was about saying you can tax your way out of the debt. Never called him crazy as I recall but simply disagreed and posted an example of how is actually does work in the Stossel video.In case you haven't noticed, I'm a big Hartmann fan. I've posted scads of his clips on this very forum over the years and Dwight has responded numerous times to them by calling him all kinds of foul names, saying what an idiot he is, and posting a John 'Bitch Slap' Stossel clip as rebuttal.
Hence the irony of Dwight posting a Hartmann clip
Last edited by DwightShrute; 04-05-13 at 02:45 PM.
When I develope abnormal growths all over I will go on a massive ******* spree. I will start at monsanto corporation, and more than likely finish up there, sending them all to where deserve to go.
This is the difference between conservatives like Dwight and liberals like you Turd. When someone on the left makes valid arguments, those on the right very often will agree. However, the reverse is NOT true with liberals as they rarely if ever agree with anything that a conservative might say solely because of the (R) following the individuals's name. When Bush was spending bucketloads of money and raising our country's debt more than any president before him, tea party conservatives joined liberals in their criticisms of President Bush. Now Obama is spending at a rate of 3X Bush and the tea party conservatives are screaming louder than ever. HOWEVER, all of those liberals that were blasting Bush are completely silent about Obama's massive overspending.What would be even more ironic would be if I posted clips of Stossel shilling for agribusiness as a rebuttal to Dwight posting a Hartmann clip.
Hogsnot.This is the difference between conservatives like Dwight and liberals like you Turd. When someone on the left makes valid arguments, those on the right very often will agree. However, the reverse is NOT true with liberals as they rarely if ever agree with anything that a conservative might say solely because of the (R) following the individuals's name. When Bush was spending bucketloads of money and raising our country's debt more than any president before him, tea party conservatives joined liberals in their criticisms of President Bush. Now Obama is spending at a rate of 3X Bush and the tea party conservatives are screaming louder than ever. HOWEVER, all of those liberals that were blasting Bush are completely silent about Obama's massive overspending.
The "tea party conservatives" didn't join liberals in anything, they spewed the same bullshit they are spewing now. And they certainly didn't join liberals in criticizing Bush, in fact they said that liberals were on the side of "the terrorists" if they questioned anything that Bush and Cheney did.
Where were the halfwits in colonial costumes saying that Bush hated America, wasn't born here, and was a communist muslim?
When I read a few days ago that Dwight was bitchin and moaning about Monsanto and Obama signing that legislation I laughed to myself and was even tempted to expose his ass again but it isn't worth it. Mr F you are giving Dwight too much credit, it isn't that he discovered something or is even being inconsistent the truth of this entire argument is Dwightie, like usual, simply was searching the web for some anti Obama shit and he ran into this. Dwightie has the intellect that goes something like this, "hmmm Obama for it therefore me against it" it is as simple as that, no other calculations or anything else came into his support or non support of this or any other issue he supports or doesn't support. I would bet any amount of money the kid never in his life even heard of GMF. Did you think for an instant he became a far left progressive, that is a big no. He simply doesn't understand anything about the political landscape of the USA and everything he spits out comes directly from who he thinks he should support and who he thinks he should be against.
Let us recall that this is the same kid that argues for and against austerity. This is the same kid that argues against global warming by posting pro global warming links. It is the same song and dance I have been playing for years, Dwightie is a simpleton and his views simply reflect what he believes at the time is the prevailing conservative bs, however quite often he fcks it up and exposes himself. Nothing ever changes with Dwightie.
Last edited by dante1; 04-06-13 at 04:21 PM.
fixed it for you! Took out the lies and now it's correct.When I read a few days ago that Dwight was bitchin and moaning about Monsanto and Obama signing that legislation I laughed at myself as most people do. I was even tempted to expose my ass again and stick in my 10 inch vibrator, but it isn't worth it. I don't have any extra D batteries LOL .
Mr F you are giving Dwight too much credit, it isn't that he discovered something or is even being inconsistent the truth of this entire argument is Dwightie, like usual, simply was searching the web for some anti Obama shit and he ran into this. I know my previous sentence isn't true but I wrote it anyways because I am a liar.
I have the intellect that goes something like this, "hmmm Obama for it therefore I am for it" it is as simple as that, no other calculations or anything else comes into my support or non support of this or any other issue I support or don't support. I'm delusional. I would bet any amount of money I never in my life even heard of GMF but what's the point of betting with myself? Well come to think of it, I do post with myself constantly. Hmmm. I simply don't understand anything about the political landscape of the USA and everything I spit out comes directly from Jorge, my Puerto Rican lover.
Let us recall that I am the same petty old man that lied when I said he argues for and against austerity. I am the same liar that keeps on posting that he argues against global warming by posting pro global warming links when I know that he only posted a link that showed the other side. It's because I am dishonest and a troll. It is the same song and dance I have been playing for years. I is a simpleton and my views simply reflect what I believe at the time is the prevailing progressive liberal bs, however quite often I fcks it up and expose myself. Nothing ever changes with me. No one likes me. I should kill myself.
Last edited by DwightShrute; 04-06-13 at 07:09 PM.
keep government OUT OF BUSINESS and let Monsanto do whatever they want you LIBERAL SCUMBAGS
America was meant to have a FREE MARKET and NOT BE A PLACE WHERE THE GOVERNMENT CAN TELL COMPANIES WHAT TO DO
you liberal idiots MAKE ME SICK
LONG LIVE MONSANTO, liberals suck it
Careful Pauly. Thanks to ALEC and the republican politicians that Dwight and Andywend love so much, it's now illegal to document animal cruelty inside corporate walls.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/1...factory-farms/
That's not animal abuse according to our government, who backs and gives the power over all food to Monsanto, 100%...........Careful Pauly. Thanks to ALEC and the republican politicians that Dwight and Andywend love so much, it's now illegal to document animal cruelty inside corporate walls.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/1...factory-farms/
That is just a natural still born piglet, according to Monsanto...........
Genetically Modified Apples Which Eliminate The Browning Process Soon To Be Approved
Since the genetic code of the apple was mapped by researchers a few years ago, scientists have explored gene silencing and other manipulation techniques to alter one of nature's most healing superfoods. Genetically modified apples may soon enter the food supply under the guise of preventing browning. First, though, officials must confront some enduring public distaste for genetically modified organisms (GMOs) now widely perceived as one of the most extensive global threats to human health.
There are natural ways to keep an apple from browning such as applying lemon, lime and even pineapple juice as they have the citric acid necessary to prevent oxidation. Sea salting is another option as it effectively acts as a preservative.
But according to the Washington Agriculture Dept., GMO apples could replace all of these methods straight from the vineyard since gene sequences could be manipulated with the same end result.
An Economic Disaster And Abuse Towards Nature
“This is an economic disaster,” Henry House, an organic apple grower in Davis, Calif., recently warned.
More than 60 million tons of apples are grown worldwide each year - the equivalent of 20lb per person.
Organic growers such as House fear that honeybees will spread genetically engineered apple pollen and contaminate organic orchards. Some consumer advocates maintain a more general antipathy toward engineered foods, while industry groups that include the Northwest Horticultural Council in Yakima, Wash., also object to what would be the first genetically engineered apple in commercial production.
As of yet, no genetically modified apples have been approved anywhere in the world. It is expected, however, that the amount of GM apple field tests will keep increasing.
Washington state accounts for 44 percent of the nation’s apple-bearing land, with 146,000 acres.
The U.S. Apple Association, noting that “browning is a natural process related to the exposure to oxygen,” has voiced opposition to the Arctic apple.
Thousands of others have weighed in as the Agriculture Department’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service considers whether to grant “non-regulated status” to varieties called the Arctic Golden and the Arctic Granny. Approval would give the commercial green light to British Columbia’s Okanagan Specialty Fruits.
Processing of GMO Apples Well Underway
The information from gene regulations of the Golden Delicious variety of apples is already being used to breed red-fleshed apples which are supposedly more attractive to consumers. After all, we wouldn't want consumers to think there are a few bad apples of any variety would we?
Ever imagine eating an apple with a desire to curb your appetite for the rest of the day? Well it's becoming a reality as genetically modified apples that suppress appetite could also be in the pipeline, with the first varieties with enhanced appetite suppressing compounds on shelves within five years.
Farmers need not worry about slow growth of apple trees. Now breeders will be able to screen seedlings for key genes, vastly speeding up the process while destroying the Mother Nature's diversity that perfectly tunes apple cultivation.
Researcher Roger Hellens of New Zealand firm Plant & Food Research, said: ‘Now we have the sequence of the apple genome, we will be able to identify the genes which control the characteristics that our sensory scientists have identified as most desired by consumers.
Amit Dhingra, of Washington State University in the US, said: 'Before genome sequencing, the best we could do was correlate traits with genes.
'Now we can point to a specific gene and say, "This is the one; this gene is responsible for this trait". 'Or the trait might be for something desirable, like flavour in a piece of fruit.'
Hellens said: 'Understanding how important characteristics in plants are controlled is vital in reducing the time to breed successful commercial cultivars (varieties).
Company President of Okanagan Specialty Fruits, Neal Carter stated that he “expects full deregulation” of the apples this year.
The Arctic apple’s resistance to what scientists call “enzymatic browning,” which is what happens when a typical apple is cut or bruised, comes from the insertion of a certain genetic sequence taken from an apple. The inserted sequence essentially suppresses the browning process.
With federal approval, the company no longer would need special permits before it put the genetically modified apples into production. If they get the go-ahead, company officials have indicated, the Arctic apples could reach grocery stores sometime in 2015.
Public Outcry Will Be A Challenge To Acceptance
First, though, the Agriculture Department must process all the public reactions received in a comment period that’s been extended until Jan. 30. The initial comment period, in 2012, drew more than 72,000 statements, including many form letters from opponents. The latest period has drawn more than 6,100 comments, many of them passionately worded from opponents of genetically modified organisms.
“Growing these GMO apples is insane,” Loxahatchee, Fla., resident Ellie Jensen wrote last month.
While the public comments have often been skeptical, federal officials have sounded sympathetic. In an 83-page draft environmental assessment completed last year, Agriculture Department scientists recommended approving the product they think can help the apple industry.
“Browning reduces apple quality by causing detrimental flavor and nutritional changes that limit apple’s fresh-market, fresh-cut and processing applications,” the Agriculture Department officials noted.
Officials loudly claim that organic growers “will not be substantially affected” by the “limited acreage” planted with the genetically engineered crops, but then added that organic growers “may need to discuss their needs” with neighbors who opt for the Arctic apples.
If extra genes allowed the apple to adapt for millions of years, do humans really have the right to silence specific genes to enhance the appearance of Mother Nature's abundance or even the consumer's palate?
When genetic engineers insert a new gene into any organism there are "position effects" which can lead to unpredictable changes in the pattern of gene expression and genetic function. The protein product of the inserted gene may carry out unexpected reactions and produce potentially toxic products.
The Agriculture Department, moreover, is effectively limited to considering whether a new product poses a potential plant risk, and questions such as potential market impact or consumer reaction aren’t really part of the equation.
“In general, this administration and past administrations have been very favorable toward biotechnology,” acknowledged Schlect, of the horticultural council.
GMOs Will Never Be The Answer To A Sustainable Food Supply
There are also projects developing insect resistant, transgenic apples. In the US, transgenic apples with delayed softening are being developed with longer shelf life, so that fruit can ripen on the tree. There is no end to the methods of madness that GMO scientists are pursuing to alter Mother Nature.
Genetically modified foods are NOT the answer. Crop uniformity and gene altering such as the research being employed by Plant & Food Research will only reduce genetic diversity making these fruits more vulnerable to disease and pests. The unnatural gene transfers will only create new toxins and weaknesses making us all vulnerable to long-term and potentially persistent illnesses.
We should all be making efforts to take these independent studies very seriously and demand that government agencies reproduce those studies instead of depending on those paid by biotech companies.
Natasha Longo has a master's degree in nutrition and is a certified fitness and nutritional counselor. She has consulted on public health policy and procurement in Canada, Australia, Spain, Ireland, England and Germany.
http://preventdisease.com/news/14/01...Approved.shtml
Health & Wellness
What Do Those Codes On Stickers Of Fruits And Some Veggies Mean?
Although they seem like a nuisance, the stickers or labels attached to fruit and some vegetables have more of a function than helping scan the price at the checkout stand. The PLU code, or price lookup number printed on the sticker, also tells you how the fruit was grown. By reading the PLU code, you can tell if the fruit was genetically modified, organically grown or produced with chemical fertilizers, fungicides, or herbicides.
Here are the basics of what you should know:
- If there are only four numbers in the PLU, this means that the produce was grown conventionally or “traditionally” with the use of pesticides. The last four letters of the PLU code are simply what kind of vegetable or fruit. An example is that all bananas are labeled with the code of 4011.
- If there are five numbers in the PLU code, and the number starts with “8″, this tells you that the item is a genetically modified fruit or vegetable. Genetically modified fruits and vegetables trump being organic. So, it is impossible to eat organic produce that are grown from genetically modified seeds. A genetically engineered (GE or GMO) banana would be: 84011
- If there are five numbers in the PLU code, and the number starts with “9″, this tells you that the produce was grown organically and is not genetically modified. An organic banana would be: 94011
Incidentally, the adhesive used to attach the stickers is considered food-grade, but the stickers themselves aren’t edible.
And here is the full list from the Environmental Working Groups of fruits and vegetables with the least to most pesticides. When shopping, the most important produce to buy organic are those at the bottom of this list http://www.foodnews.org/fulllist.php .
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