Why does everyone think Florida State loses tonight?

Originally Posted by navyblue81

How bout the simple gut test and the fact FSU has not looked right all year. While they beat ND at home, they got outplayed. And they do need to go undefeated. They lose and they're done.

I think theyve looked ok, I dont know who is overrating them Im not. This isnt the same team as last year, they lost quite a bit, I dont think they are great or even really very good, weak schedule is why theyve gotten by this far, without Jameis theyed be average to mediocre. Why do they need to go undefeated? To be in playoff? Well sure they do, but this thread is about this game and its not like they cant win this game.

Originally Posted by LT Profits

They held Clemson without an offensive touchdown and to only 229 (count 'em) total yards in Death Valley. Florida State allowed 407 yards to Clemson while needing overtime to win at home.

The Clemson game is misleading because Watson was hurt. Clemson was a double digit fave and probably covers if he doesn't get knocked out.

Originally Posted by jtoler

I think theyve looked ok, I dont know who is overrating them Im not. This isnt the same team as last year, they lost quite a bit, I dont think they are great or even really very good, weak schedule is why theyve gotten by this far, without Jameis theyed be average to mediocre. Why do they need to go undefeated? To be in playoff? Well sure they do, but this thread is about this game and its not like they cant win this game.

But read the thread title, it is asking WHY guys think they will lose. Nobody is guaranteeing anything, it is not like people are saying FSU can't win.

Originally Posted by daneblazer

The Clemson game is misleading because Watson was hurt. Clemson was a double digit fave and probably covers if he doesn't get knocked out.

I doubt Clemson would have covered anyway considering Louisville was one yard away from winning the game at the end. But that is a matter of opinion. What is not an opinion but a fact is Louisville's efficiency ratings on defense, they are for real and I wouldn't expect Noles to score that much tonight. IF FSU wins, it will have to be with defense. Not impossible but I wouldn't bet on it. Louisville ATS here is the most confident I have been about a play all year, for reasons ranging from everything I have already said to this line itself.

Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH

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That's the rankings of the offenses the #1 ranked Louisville defense has played. Those offenses haven't exactly faced a murderers row of defenses either. They aren't a #1 defense, but they are still good because they're still living off of Charlie Strong's coaching and players...but big Todd's defenses crumble once they face teams that can actually pass the ball.

Originally Posted by daneblazer

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That's the rankings of the offenses the #1 ranked Louisville defense has played. Those offenses haven't exactly faced a murderers row of defenses either. They aren't a #1 defense, but they are still good because they're still living off of Charlie Strong's coaching and players...but big Todd's defenses crumble once they face teams that can actually pass the ball.

You are conveniently ignoring that the Louisville defense FAR out-performed the Florida State vs. the common opponents they have faced so far (Clemson, NC State, Syracuse off top of my head, that may be it) so SOS becomes a moot point now anyway. Besides DFEI is schedule adjusted.

Florida St. knows how to handle distractions and knows how to win; I'm waiting for this to go down to 3 then I'm gonna fire away. Might go on 3.5 if it doesn't get there.

Originally Posted by LT Profits

I doubt Clemson would have covered anyway considering Louisville was one yard away from winning the game at the end.

Whole reason they came 1 yard away is because the Clemson Qb got knocked out in the 2nd quarter. Clemson would have won by double digits. You ought to know once a starting Qb gets knocked out, it usually changes the entire complexion of an offense. Guess it's opinion though...moot now

Originally Posted by daneblazer

Whole reason they came 1 yard away is because the Clemson Qb got knocked out in the 2nd quarter. Clemson would have won by double digits. You ought to know once a starting Qb gets knocked out, it usually changes the entire complexion of an offense. Guess it's opinion though...moot now

And at what point was Watson knocked out? Because Clemson did not score a touchdown the ENTIRE game.

The thing is FSU knows they have to win this game in order to be in playoff, win this and its easier from here on ut, but you HAVE to win this one, theyve come through in alot of close games over the last two years, nobody has shown as much poise when down as Jameis.

Originally Posted by LT Profits

You are conveniently ignoring that the Louisville defense FAR out-performed the Florida State vs. the common opponents they have faced so far (Clemson, NC State, Syracuse off top of my head, that may be it) so SOS becomes a moot point now anyway. Besides DFEI is schedule adjusted.

And none of those teams can pass. I watched big Todd for 4 long years in the SEC. His defenses have no answer for teams that can pass the ball. Enter team that can pass the ball.

Originally Posted by jtoler

The thing is FSU knows they have to win this game in order to be in playoff, win this and its easier from here on out, but you HAVE to win this one, yheyve come through in alot of close games over the last two years, nobody has shown as much poise when down as Jameis.

But they have not faced a defense this good since the beginning of last year either.

Give Jimbo 10 days to practice and he will destroy you. Louisville has no chance.

This game is going to go down just like last year when FSU played Clemson at home everyone predicted a close game and FSU straight blowed them out.