Does anyone here know who is to blame for the "one and done " college players?

Originally Posted by frugalgambler

You guys must be sh.tting me. NCAA's virtual slavery rules are to blame. I wish all the best to these kids who can get drafted into NBA and start making money, instead of playing for free and risking career-ending injuries, while the NCAA fat cats get richer and richer.

yep. paid college athletes would eliminate the 1 and done

not willing to get into a huge debate over that cause i know the tired "free education" argument but hey that's the truth

kids come up from the ghetto, agents throw a lotto pick lock into a kids face and he's 99/100 gonna jump on the opportunity, especially when they're pretty much all an acl tear away from going back into the streets with nothing

Was just wondering who you guys felt was most at fault, some good points made ITT for sure. My opinion and I think evidence backs it up pretty conclusively is the reason we have so many one and dones now in college hoops is the rookies and future players were screwed in 2011 by the NBA players union. Tell me if you guys agree.

In 2011 the NBA owners locked out the players for 161 days. The two sides could not agree to a new collective bargaining agreement. It was common knowledge the players were going to break not the owners the only question was what would happen. The unions players did not want to give up any of its current or future money but they were also worried that it was already december and if they didn't make a deal soon they were going to lose the whole season and all the money that goes with that. The star players would lose their 10+ million dollar salaries for a whole year and the less important players would not only lose a years salary but a fresh batch of college kids would be coming into league to compete for their jobs. So how did the union come up with the perfect solution ? They decided to screw the next guy LOL . the way the nba players union got the lockout ended in 2011 was to agree to a rookie salary cap. Which locks rookies in for 3 years minimum to the team that drafts them and makes their salaries pretty cut and dry. It was a perfect solution no future nba players were in the union yet so the vote passed no problem. No current player was hurt, and the owners got control and power over the new players. ROOKIES IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS IN NBA ACTUALLY MAKE LESS MONEY AND HAVE LESS FREEDOM THEN ROOKIES 5 & 6 YEARS AGO. ALL OTHER PLAYER SALARIES HAVE OF COURSE RISEN. BY DOING THIS THE NBA MADE IT CLEAR TO THE YOUNG HS and COLLEGE STARS THAT THE BIG MONEY DOES NOT COME TILL AT LEAST YEAR FOUR IN NBA. SO IF A KID STAYS 3 OR 4 YEARS IN COLLEGE HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A BIG DEAL OR FREE AGENCY TILL HE IS 26 YEARS OLD!!!! NO 17 YEAR OLD PHENOM IS GOING TO WAIT 7 or 8 YEARS FOR THE BIG MONEY.


hey my bad hit caps lock . Wasn't yelling at you nice people LOL

college basketball players go to college for 2 reasons

free meals and pussy.

and b/c they cant go str8 to the NBA out of high school anymore.

business as usual.

Originally Posted by Bill Dozer

It's a good question. My vote is for the NBA being at fault. The NBA is really the only sport I can think of where you have all these "busts" sitting the bench getting no experience. You can take the top 5 prospects and toss em in with the big boys and that's as far as they'll go. Remember Kwame Brown, Eddie Curry and Tyson Chandler? All 3 looked like they'd be overseas in yr 4 after rookie contract. Even after a year in college playing against 95% of kids that will always be amateurs you still don't know if they can play in NBA. Ennis? Wiggins? Embiid's back in 82 games?

Baseball, all soccer leagues, Euro hoops, they all have a club systems to develop guys. Kwame Brown might have been an all NBAer if he wasnt thrown into a sink or swim situation. Maybe the AAU youth clubs could sync up and be sponsored by NBA clubs like they do with soccer.

But the NBA would have to make it work with rules like if you play in college you can't join the NBA for 2 or 3 years. The college game protects their potential earn because they get to be men among boys and still keep the hype going. Having to prove yourself in a more competitive system has be their best option. Brandon Jennings is the only one to go play with men and it probably cost him 5+ draft spots in a crappy draft. He would have torn up college PGs and # 1 or 2 pick in that draft.

the d-league is there, not everyone has to rot away on the bench. we saw flynn, thabeet go there to no avail. wolves sent shabazz to the d-league. it's there, a lot of coaches/organizations just dont implement it or it's no use

Embiid is a guy you take a shot on cause if he works out, he's a home run. nba docs red flagged sullinger and now he's a 13/8 kid in his second year with a developing 3 ball and has been healthy all season.

Originally Posted by homie1975

First guys to go straight from HS to nba were Spencer Hayward I think and moses Malone. h

Spencer took a much much longer route then right from HS. HS kids were not allowed to go to league and also college freshman couldn't even play varsity sports! So he went to jr college one year then a year at a regular college then he went to the ABA and even after that the NBA didnt want him but he took his case all the way to the US Supreme Court and got into NBA due to supreme court agreeing with him and against the nba. Then the floodgates opened.

Originally Posted by Big Bear

college basketball players go to college for 2 reasons

free meals and pussy.

and b/c they cant go str8 to the NBA out of high school anymore.

business as usual.

College basketball stars were getting free meals and pussy for the last 50 years yet the one and done players are rising exponentially now. Even when HS players were allowed only about 1 a year on average made the jump.
The NBA collective bargaining agreement forcing kids to do one year of college started in 2005. The number of underclassmen leaving for the NBA was not that high. However it has risen tremendously in the last couple years. The number now is more then triple what it was between 2005 and 2011 The reason is the nba rookie cap deal of 2011. The kids know they can't be free till year 4 or 5 in NBA so they wisely get out there quick

Originally Posted by Bill Dozer

But the NBA would have to make it work with rules like if you play in college you can't join the NBA for 2 or 3 years. The college game protects their potential earn because they get to be men among boys and still keep the hype going. Having to prove yourself in a more competitive system has be their best option. .

The problem is if you make a player do 3 years in college and then four years he is locked in the rookie contract, which now has a salary cap, these guys don't get any freedom or a shot at a big contract till they are 26 years old. These HS kids think 26 is 50 and I don't blame them

Here should be the rule:

Any HS player can go straight to the NBA if they want, but if they choose to go to college they have to stay at least 2 years.

Originally Posted by KRIT

Here should be the rule:

Any HS player can go straight to the NBA if they want, but if they choose to go to college they have to stay at least 2 years.

i agree .

Krit has a good idea

Many people here are forgetting most guys fail in the nba..might make a few bucks but end up broke and in the ghetto drinkign wine and smoking weed

Its sad

Originally Posted by jjgold

Krit has a good idea

Many people here are forgetting most guys fail in the nba..might make a few bucks but end up broke and in the ghetto drinkign wine and smoking weed

Its sad

JJ you white boys who are stuck in 9-5 office jobs are in the white collar ghetto.

Originally Posted by PaperTrail07

These kids are cool with giving NBA a shit after 1 year...dosent work----Across the Pond ya go----Making pretty good $$$$

not to mention the amount or Euro-puzzy these bbc motha fucka's are pulling..... sluttiest women in the world are in Italy and Spain (excepting certain central and s. american countries, who are on par with em).

as for who to blame for the one-n-done.......... duh....... nba

like my main n_iggah eddie murphy once said, "give a n_iggah rope, he wanna be a cowboy, Gus!" (what the penetrate that may actually mean I have no penetrating clue, but I guess it applies here as well as anywhere.)

Calipari doesnt help much.

Said a few years back draft day was most exciting day of the year for uk basketball

did Calippari ever play hoops?

Some of these kids are can't miss kids when they step onto a college campus. If you are a professional basketball player then be just that. Leave HS and go D-League or overseas. Why go to college and be exploited without pay for one year? I mean did we just find out Julius Randle or Jabari Parker or Wiggins were likely going pro after one year? Why not go overseas and make a half mil or maybe more for a year? Come back after that year and jump in the draft. And then you have the jerk offs that will say, "What about the exposure you get from playing D1 ball for an elite college program?". If you are the goods they will find you. I don't care where you are. Why make these coaches and the university and literally any and everyone associated with the program rich while you can't see a dime? Makes zero sense to me why more can't miss kids don't go these other routes. College sports are nothing more than pro sports without the players on the payroll. Simple as that. The notion that if a student is paid that makes him no longer a student is ridiculous and has been pumped into our heads for years. This notion is entrenched into the very fabric of how we view sports. Stop pretending. Let's all stop.