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What the hell is the Texas Senator doing??? Opie, help me out here pal

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Quote Originally Posted by DoYouNotGetIT View Post
Anyone who says go ask a health care professional aka doctor about Obamacare is good or bad. They will always say it is bad, because in the long run it will reduce health care salaries (reduce = stagnant and not increase with inflation). More people on Medicare/Medicaid = less money for doctors.

If you are a single person 18+ and make less than $15,900 or for each member of your family add $5,000 to $15,900 if you make less than that amount CONGRATULATIONS YOU QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID IN 2014. Depends if your state is fighting Obamacare or not. But if it is not congrats on your free healthcare.
Medicaid isn't free. If I qualified I've paid into it for well over a decade.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
Free ???
For the people who receive it free for them. They obviously aren't paying for it. The goal of Obamacare is to make medicare/medicaid so big that we will be like the rest of the world and able to negotiate down prices with doctors, drug companies, and medical equipment companies. Eventually we will become a socialized health care system.
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Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
Obamacare is bad but not having anything else as alternate is worse.
I guess that is the acceptable level of competence expected from politicians.

I can only imagine going to work and your boss critiquing your work last month like you mentioned. Pavy, last month was atrocious, you suck balls, everyone complains about you, clients won't deal with our company because of you but but not having anyone else as alternate is worse.
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Basically this is bad for the 300 million with current insurance but good for the 40 million who didn't have it. And what makes it worse is that the ones pushing for this plan - are all asking to be exempted because they know it reduces their own current plans.

The mistake made was by effecting EVERYONE and not just focusing on a smaller option for those with nothing to begin with. Symbolically this is cutting one ball off of two healthy mean and giving the two to the man with none...therefore making the already impotent person the beneficiary at the cost of the other two fertile men. If you have planned and worked and been smart your whole life you can already afford health care.....if you are among the majority of the average workforce and middle class, your get a plan from your employer....but if you shitt the bed in life and have no skills or value to offer and still want what others have - you win here.
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Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
Basically this is bad for the 300 million with current insurance but good for the 40 million who didn't have it. And what makes it worse is that the ones pushing for this plan - are all asking to be exempted because they know it reduces their own current plans.

The mistake made was by effecting EVERYONE and not just focusing on a smaller option for those with nothing to begin with. Symbolically this is cutting one ball off of two healthy mean and giving the two to the man with none...therefore making the already impotent person the beneficiary at the cost of the other two fertile men. If you have planned and worked and been smart your whole life you can already afford health care.....if you are among the majority of the average workforce and middle class, your get a plan from your employer....but if you shitt the bed in life and have no skills or value to offer and still want what others have - you win here.
True and not true, because the reality of our current healthcare system is we pay way beyond the price for services rendered compared to every other country. Which is currently on a unsustainable rate which would cripple the government because even now they are the biggest insurance company with medicare/medicaid. The problem is we have hundreds of private insurance companies negotiated against themselves raising the rates for US citizens for doctors, drugs, and medical equipment. The current rate is unsustainable. Poor people now just lie about their personal information (name, birth date, SSN) and get admitted to a hospital and we the tax payer and people with private insurance pay for that hospitalization. We either have to get socialized medicine or stop treating people who don't have insurance in a hospital. All hospitals have to accept patients with life threatening medical problems and most public hospitals will accept anyone with any medical problem.
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Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
I guess that is the acceptable level of competence expected from politicians.

I can only imagine going to work and your boss critiquing your work last month like you mentioned. Pavy, last month was atrocious, you suck balls, everyone complains about you, clients won't deal with our company because of you but but not having anyone else as alternate is worse.
Ironically, this is basically how we feel about Pavy's posting career.

He sucks balls and everyone complains about him. We tried to send him away to gaylive full time, but even they didn't want him. So we're basically stuck with him.
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Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
You people DO realize the USA is one of 2 countries in the world where health care is not, at least before this, guaranteed as a right?
It shouldn't be. You have that now. Walk into any hospital and they can't by law refuse to treat you. Don't pay and the tax payers pay. Simple.
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Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
Ironically, this is basically how we feel about Pavy's posting career.

He sucks balls and everyone complains about him. We tried to send him away to gaylive full time, but even they didn't want him. So we're basically stuck with him.
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Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
It shouldn't be. You have that now. Walk into any hospital and they can't by law refuse to treat you. Don't pay and the tax payers pay. Simple.
Wrong private hospitals can refuse non-life threatening conditions. Go online and look at 5 private hospital reviews you will see at least 1 person writing negative reviews saying they were refused treatment. Most public hospitals will accept anyone with any kind of medical condition. All hospitals have to accept patients with life threatening medical conditions.

People who pay for this are tax payers and private health insurance customers.
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there's no good reason that the U.S. doesn't have a better healthcare system.

there's no good reason both parties can't come up with a plan that is good for the vast majority of Americans.

there's no good reason for voting Obama again in 2012.


some things just can't be explained.
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