Based on what? You can't throw out statements like that with absolutely nothing to back it up.. pure nonsense
lol braves fans.
beat the phillies one game and think they're overrated.
phillies will be right where they were last year and further
braves will be watching at home
You really think a team with this pitching staff that is getting back a top three 2nd basemen along with bullpen help and a top prospect out fielder, won't go 4 games above .500 in the remaining 131 games?? Cmon now at least be rational
lets see them beat some teams that are over .500 before we say they are the best team to ever playOriginally Posted by Inspirited
lol braves fans. beat the phillies one game and think they're overrated. phillies will be right where they were last year and further braves will be watching at home
lol ok has has an a good three games congrats... do not even try to compare him to a 3 time all star that has finished top 5 in cy young voting 5 times... jurrgens is an average baseball pitcher that will never even come close to that of roy oswalt.. take your short career with a 4 era and be happy being lucky enough to be a #3 pitcher.. hed be lucky enough to make the phills starting rotation.. he might be able to beat out fat joe if hes lucky... how does jurrjens postseason stats compare to roys? oh wait..jurrjens is a stud do you watch baseball?
jurrjens 3-0 1.52 era
avg just under 8.0 ip per start
hmmm... #7 in the league right now in hitting without their best hitter and a top prospect... seems like you really know your baseballHilarious..
Phillies are trash. Almost Padres from last year. Elite pitching, with AAA bats.
lol ok has has an a good three games congrats... do not even try to compare him to a 3 time all star that has finished top 5 in cy young voting 5 times... jurrgens is an average baseball pitcher that will never even come close to that of roy oswalt.. take your short career with a 4 era and be happy being lucky enough to be a #3 pitcher.. hed be lucky enough to make the phills starting rotation.. he might be able to beat out fat joe if hes lucky... how does jurrjens postseason stats compare to roys? oh wait..
hahahhahahah jurrjens is 25 and career era is 3.4 and getting better every year and he was injured lastyear for the post season
phils window for championships is what 2 more years mabey 3
braves are just starting out they will be competing for years to come
may be true... but this thread is based on this season, not years to come.. phills are made to win now, as they are doing.. and no jurrjens career era is not 3.4... it might show that on the stats page, but that is just because they average every year together (they are averaging in his 1.8 from 3 games this year and counting it as a full season). If he holds a 1.8 ERA after a full year this year, then yes he will have a 3.4, but right now it is around 4.0. You cant average 3 starts with 3 other years worth of stats which is what the stats pages show. As I said, he is an average pitcher with around a 4 ERA... until he proves otherwise, that is what he is... 3 good starts does not make him a legit pitcher.
what??? his career era is 3.41 that includes his debut to today wtf you talkin about? and your the one saying look at oswalts pastmay be true... but this thread is based on this season, not years to come.. phills are made to win now, as they are doing.. and no jurrjens career era is not 3.4... it might show that on the stats page, but that is just because they average every year together (they are averaging in his 1.8 from 3 games this year and counting it as a full season). If he holds a 1.8 ERA after a full year this year, then yes he will have a 3.4, but right now it is around 4.0. You cant average 3 starts with 3 other years worth of stats which is what the stats pages show. As I said, he is an average pitcher with around a 4 ERA... until he proves otherwise, that is what he is... 3 good starts does not make him a legit pitcher.
and its 4 starts by the way not 3
all it comes down to is a 7 game series: game one: halladay or hudson? halladay.... game 2: lee or lowe? Lee...games 3: hanson or hamels? hamels.... game 4 jurrgens or oswalt? oswalt... every single game anyone that knows anything about baseball would take the phills pitcher... case closed. And when healthy, the phills lineup is better as well.. come and talk in 3 or 4 years, and I probably will side with the braves...until then, save yourself your time. Check any power ranking right now, philly is #1 without a ton of important pieces
nooo
Not overrated bc of me thats for sure lol I hate them!
Skewed 3-0 record.jurrjens is a stud do you watch baseball?
jurrjens 3-0 1.52 era
avg just under 8.0 ip per start
He beat a weak Padre lineup that's softer than Carvel ice cream getting eight runs of support, he beat a soft Mets lineup in is first start.
You make him out to be the second coming of Jim Palmer.
Ivan Nova can beat those very same lineups with the same numbers your Jurrjens put up.
Mets and Padres? Please.
See me when he beats a real lineup with more pop than the Newark Bears.
Jurrjens is Not a stud.
Jurrjens is a 13-10 pitcher, with a 3.50 earned run average, and about .130 WHIP ratio.
Slightly better than mediocre.
Oswalt averages 17 wins a season for a decade, won back to back 20 games, won 19 games another year, all with crappy Houston teams before they were pretty good.
Get real, Jurrjens is to Oswalt is like Jorge Posada is to Johnny Bench.
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Hilarious..
Phillies are trash. Almost Padres from last year. Elite pitching, with AAA bats.
Who's the minor league bat?
Ryan Howard? One of the most feared power hitters in the league?
Jimmy Rollins? He's only hitting .285 for a SS with a lofty .375 oba.
Wreaks havoc when he gets on base (which is often)
Victorino is putting up ridiculous numbers from the top of the order.
You got a problem with .290 5 homers already from the #2 hitter in the order.
He also plays world class defense in the outfield.
Polanco is one of top hitters in the league right now.
.374 21 RBI's making all the plays at third.
Witout Utley yet
AAA bats
Seriously, some of you don't think before posting.
that sound rated about right to me. they beat bad team with a high winning percentage of .700 and have around a .500 record against good teams. that gets you over 90 wins.
talk about AAA bats... 0 runs so far through 7 innings vs the phills #7 starter?
