nba is all setup

fixes everywhere! how can the bookmakers set the total points for example 187 and then the game ends 189+ (2 points difference).
how can you predict so close?
it's all ****ing fix - %90 of the games! thus it's making you addictive! so you think, geez that was close, I would have hit the bingo!
The NBA players see the line and then make a deal (decide which way to play) hot or cold tempo and put their bank on the over/under. this is how they make most of their money, and not simply by playing basketball in the nba.

lol its not fixed dude

yeah sure!

even before the match starts, the coach and the players know the pace of the game and double their money.
nowadays it's not a question of competition anymore.
lame asses!

I do think some players are betting money on the side. Maybe more in college than the NBA. Especially in college when the scrub gets off the bench and starts jacking up three's trying to get the cover in a blow out.

lol ridiculous to think these million dollar NBA player really care about overs and under.

if you have a million, you want more!

Originally Posted by soni

fixes everywhere! how can the bookmakers set the total points for example 187 and then the game ends 189+ (2 points difference).
how can you predict so close?
it's all ****ing fix - %90 of the games! thus it's making you addictive! so you think, geez that was close, I would have hit the bingo!
The NBA players see the line and then make a deal (decide which way to play) hot or cold tempo and put their bank on the over/under. this is how they make most of their money, and not simply by playing basketball in the nba.

good conspiracy theory... whatever it is... that's reflective of why i hate betting overs and unders... books are usually accurate at those.

Not fixed. And your not supposed to be able to predict a game going over by 2 points. You just have to be 3% more right than you are wrong. That's all. It's possible.

yea dude stop being rediculous...nba players definitely dont put their bank on an over/under, youve got to be kidding

Not fixed...just a fact that all teams have good and bad days.

Originally Posted by soni

fixes everywhere! how can the bookmakers set the total points for example 187 and then the game ends 189+ (2 points difference).
how can you predict so close?
it's all ****ing fix - %90 of the games! thus it's making you addictive! so you think, geez that was close, I would have hit the bingo!
The NBA players see the line and then make a deal (decide which way to play) hot or cold tempo and put their bank on the over/under. this is how they make most of their money, and not simply by playing basketball in the nba.

Here's my theory on how it frequently goes down (I wrote this almost exactly two years ago ):

Today's NBA games were a perfect example of how pro sports are fixed

Every team in the NBA is known for either specializing in winning games with their offense (they are known as “offensive teams”) or their defense (they are known as “defensive teams”). This is key for people who bet on games because if they think that a certain team will dominate a game, then they will naturally do it with their style. For example, if you think that the San Antonio Spurs will dominate a particular game, you'll probably expect for a game to go "under" (because they win games primarily with their excellent defense). For a lot of sports bettors, simply betting on a team covering a spread in a game isn't enough, so, they bet "parlays." A parlay is a single bet that links together two or more individual wagers and is dependent on all of those wagers winning together. A parlay bet allows someone to win a lot more money than an ordinary, single bet. For example, if you expected the Spurs to dominate the Kings in today's game, you probably would have bet them to cover the spread on the game (Spurs -8), which meant that they had to win the game by at least 9 points for you to win. If you really wanted a large return, you could bet a parlay on the game. This would mean that you would place one bet that would cover the point spread and the total points to be scored in the game (in this case, over or under 180). Both bets who would have to win for you to win. This means that if, for example, you pick the Spurs to cover the 8 point spread and the game total to be under 180, if only one of the bets won then you would lose the parlay bet.

Since the Spurs are a "defensive team", most people who expected the Spurs to win would choose the "under." Therefore, a lot of sports bettors (being a little greedy), will try and win a bigger payout by playing parlays on games (trying to pick an against the spread winner as well as an over/under winner in the games they bet on and betting these together in a parlay.

Games are fixed according to this predictable behavior of gamblers (not every game by any means, this usually doesn't apply to struggling teams, for example):

In order for an "offensive team" (a team that primarily wins games with its offense) to cover the spread, it most hold the game's point total "under" the over/under.

In order for a "defensive team" (a team that primarily wins games with its defense) to cover the spread, it must make sure that the game's point total is "over" the over/under.

Today's NBA games (the first day of the play-offs, -games played off the board) were perfect examples of how pro sports are fixed:

Cleveland (an offensive team) had to hold the game total under 196 in order to cover the spread (Cleveland -5):

Washington 86
Cleveland 97

San Antonio (a defensive team) had to ensure the game total was over the over/under of 180 in order to cover the spread (San Antonio -8):

Sacramento 88
San Antonio 122

Miami (an offensive team) had to hold the game total under 195 in order to cover the spread (Miami -8.5):

Chicago 106
Miami 111

LA Clippers (a defensive team) had to ensure the game total was over the over/under of 196 in order to cover the spread (LA Clippers -5):

Denver 87
LA Clippers 89

Originally Posted by soni

fixes everywhere! how can the bookmakers set the total points for example 187 and then the game ends 189+ (2 points difference).
how can you predict so close?
it's all ****ing fix - %90 of the games! thus it's making you addictive! so you think, geez that was close, I would have hit the bingo!
The NBA players see the line and then make a deal (decide which way to play) hot or cold tempo and put their bank on the over/under. this is how they make most of their money, and not simply by playing basketball in the nba.

My theory explains why it's frequently so close between over and unders. The favored team is battling to keep it under (or get it over), while the underdog is battling to do the opposite. With both teams aiming for the same number, it's only natural that they'll be close frequently.

NBA player may not be betting themselves but THEY ARE fully aware of the total and spread for the game. Why shoot the ball when you are down 10 points w/ 8 seconds left? Or why do you foul when you are down 15 points w/ so many seconds left? NBA may not be fixed but players do play close to the OVER / UNDER and Spread.. Good Example was Lakers VS NEW Orleans Friday.. Spread was at 5. Lakers UP by 6. KOBE misses the 2nd freethrow ONLY 5 SEC. left.. A regular player would just hold on to the ball. Don't have to cross half court.. INSTEAD they run the ball down the court and shoot a 3. Lakers win by 3 instead of 6... They didn't cover.. Now my question is why run the ball down and shoot that 3??? Logical reason is they know the SPREAD. If it goes in Lakers lose ATS if it didn't Lakers WIN ATS.. Ummm.

0:06 Peja Stojakovic personal foul (Kobe Bryant draws the foul) 101-106
0:06 101-107 Kobe Bryant makes free throw 1 of 2
0:06 101-107 Kobe Bryant misses free throw 2 of 2
0:05 David West defensive rebound 101-107
0:01 Jannero Pargo makes three point jumper 104-107
0:00 End of the 4th Quarter

Here's another good ex.. Dallas / Seattle on April 8... Spread was -17 for DALLAS.. Look at the what happens in the course of 10 SEC... Again they only have 8 sec. left don't have to cross half court. They knew the spread so DALLAS didn't cover.. Interesting...


0:44 81-97 Jamaal Magloire misses 5-foot two point shot
0:42 Adrian Griffin defensive rebound 81-97
0:30 Francisco Elson misses 21-foot jumper 81-97
0:29 81-97 Juwan Howard defensive rebound
0:08 81-99 Antoine Wright makes 13-foot jumper
0:01 Ronald Dupree makes 11-foot two point shot (Luke Ridnour assists) 83-99
0:00 End of the 4th Quarter
0:00 End Game

Originally Posted by soni

fixes everywhere! how can the bookmakers set the total points for example 187 and then the game ends 189+ (2 points difference).
how can you predict so close?
it's all ****ing fix - %90 of the games! thus it's making you addictive! so you think, geez that was close, I would have hit the bingo!
The NBA players see the line and then make a deal (decide which way to play) hot or cold tempo and put their bank on the over/under. this is how they make most of their money, and not simply by playing basketball in the nba.

Just because you suck at picking OU winners, doesn't mean these games are fixed. Your assumptions are maybe good for 13 year old boys that think they know everything in this world.