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Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
Honest assessment there JBEX. Tough game. Join the club. I was holding my own on contest play (breaking about even/losing small amounts)until last year to year and a half. Now on a really bad run. Can not hit broad side of a barn capping or tailing. Anyway too bad tournament play was not really around in your day of gambling as it does help mitigate the negative aspects of the game. The sharks are swimming JBEX, and they are scoring those coins. Guess players like you and I will have to settle for small scores etc. GL.

as I've said before i just enjoy the process and basically cannot change that.. if you were to just stick to WP bets at the big tracks I believe it's 16-17% take out.. it'll never be 10 for most players with a rebate but I would guess a reasonable volume (but still high) might get you to 13-14%..i think at that point you might just accept takes a little higher than contest play and stick to simple WP bets.. jmo and others may feel differently.. got no skin in the game but of course like to pick well over time
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Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
as I've said before i just enjoy the process and basically cannot change that.. if you were to just stick to WP bets at the big tracks I believe it's 16-17% take out.. it'll never be 10 for most players with a rebate but I would guess a reasonable volume (but still high) might get you to 13-14%..i think at that point you might just accept takes a little higher than contest play and stick to simple WP bets.. jmo and others may feel differently.. got no skin in the game but of course like to pick well over time
Get your drift, but the sharks have gravitated to contest play IMO. Chance to win upwards of 30K. Lockdown games so players can not chase at the end. Feeders to win your way into the big games for much less. And I know you rarely post ex bets, but along with w/p those are my personal fav. Anyhow GL JBEX posting here. I understand the Game has beaten both of us down to a certain degree, but we like it nonetheless.
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Nothing wrong with that jbex

i love handicapping

cliche but journey > destination

nothing more fulfilling than this sport

it’s really takes a special type of handicapper

But imo if you can’t read a form

ill never trust that person betting other sports

this is more of our past time than baseball

this truly separates handicappers

I digress my rant lol ,
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Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
Get your drift, but the sharks have gravitated to contest play IMO. Chance to win upwards of 30K. Lockdown games so players can not chase at the end. Feeders to win your way into the big games for much less. And I know you rarely post ex bets, but along with w/p those are my personal fav. Anyhow GL JBEX posting here. I understand the Game has beaten both of us down to a certain degree, but we like it nonetheless.
I’m sure your correct on the contest

is it like fantasy

like fan duel eske ?

Ive been in some handicapping tournaments at borgata or casinos

but not how you play

reason I ask

because fan duel or draft kings would be missing out on such
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Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
I’m sure your correct on the contest

is it like fantasy

like fan duel eske ?

Ive been in some handicapping tournaments at borgata or casinos

but not how you play

reason I ask

because fan duel or draft kings would be missing out on such
They are many different type of contests. Most popular on Horse tourneys is pick and Pray, You pick one primary and one alternate. You get credit for w/p monies, Once the gates open 1st race of the contest no changing the picks. Caps of $42 for win and $22 for Place. Check out the site LKID> any other questions hit me back.
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saratoga

R1 #2 get smokin (8-1)

bad bunch.. castellano riding an $11k yearling purchase for an avg trainer who's 1/53 with debut horses?? bottom of ped a little interesting.. 1 winner from 1 starter and was a halfway decent horse going by dpi.. that one was a turf winner


R3 #6 bahamian prince (4-1)

according to the maiden stats look like the sire is new.. but he's (the sire) by gone west who retired a long time ago.. very strange?? even at $40k this one cost a decent amount for the specs.. dam sire posse is a speed influence.. thought enough to ship up here off monmouth works and they bring along paco lopez


R4 #2 eighty seven north

finally right level, surface and jockey come together.. two favorites scratched so ml means sht




R5

#3 lune lake (20-1)

don't get ml?? her turf sprints not bad at all except for her last race.. but that was from the 12 post


#5 tradeable (15-1)



R9 #8 rocketry (9-5)

R10 #4 wacky pal (5-1)

like his effort vs open company (today ny breds) at gulfstream in his debut.. 7th (12 horse field) by a little less than 5 lengths but put up a good figure.. also had to break from the rail in a 12 horse field.. first race off the layoff (3yo debut) comment "saw off 3/16 th" so I'll excuse that.. last race battled on the front end held very well to finish 3rd with a decent figure.. castellano for saez, nice middle post and je very good 3rd off the layoff



del mar


R5 #4 naughty tiger (8-1)
R6 # 6 unapologetic (5-2)
R7 #3 flying flirt (20-1)

Last edited by JBEX; 08-01-19 at 04:26 PM.
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Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
Idk

would have to be sharp money

public doesn’t respect NJ shippers

especially firsters

shit, Jason Servis made a living off that very thing

tough read.. looking at it again I think the ml maker gave him a lot of respect making him 4-1 considering pletcher and the two who ran decent already.. not a Lukas fan but he's never been this low
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saratoga


R1 #6 go get that (6-1)
R1 #7 smidge (12-1)



R2 #3 cool as you like (9-5)
R3 #3 light in the sky (3-1)
R4 #7 appealing briefs (10-1)

have to try and beat servis #1 who claimed his horse three back and he ran a lifetime best figure on the turf at 8 years old in his next start (at least on the brisnet's) ..give me a break !!


R5 #1 tactical pursuit (6-1)
R6 #4 here comes your man (3-1)


R7 #3 english bee (9-2)
R8 #7 backyard heaven (6-1)
R9 #1 olendon (6-1)

back euro-class,jv to irad, 1st lasix and blinkers on.. more acclamated to surroundings.. fact he lost to favorite last out will only help price


R10 #5 taralucci (8-1)
R10 #8 fika (8-1)



del mar


R3 #1 cash for cass (4-1)
R4 #6 challah (10-1)
R5 #6 clear to close (2-1)


enough c's for ya
Last edited by JBEX; 08-02-19 at 03:32 PM.