Thanks boa12..not that I have done it but I think sports is beatable long haul.. there are people who win long haul and all you need to do is follow and apply simple money management principles..Have a few guys I like to track but don't participate as it's not doable for me..Not gonna get into who but in general there are some pretty smart folks out there working on it ..Math models,databases and people who just have a good feel for things and use the line itself as a handicapping tool