Wallco NHL GOLD (+453 units in 6 years)

Originally Posted by twobelowpar

Come on Florida! Score another goal!

I blame the ambiguity in this post in not specifying which team from Florida should score another goal for this initial loss.

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 0-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +0.00 units(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-2.10 units)

(1/29/13):
#1 Florida (+1½) v2 (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 0-0
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0

v2 Plays
(A) 0-1
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0


Games for (1/30/13):
#1 Resumes (B) on 1/31/13
#2 Chicago @ Minnesota (+1½)v1 (A) (8:05 pm EDT)


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

So let me get this straight (first time betting on hockey).

#2 Chicago @ Minnesota (+1½)v1 (A) (8:05 pm EDT)

The play is Minnesota I see Minnesota as +1.5 -270 so IF I was betting $100 to win (I'm not) it would be $270 to win $100 in this game one.

HOWEVER - if the play was Chicago which has a M/L of -125 I would be $125 to win 100 right??

Hockey is weird!

Originally Posted by Grinder12000

So let me get this straight (first time betting on hockey).

#2 Chicago @ Minnesota (+1½)v1 (A) (8:05 pm EDT)

The play is Minnesota I see Minnesota as +1.5 -270 so IF I was betting $100 to win (I'm not) it would be $270 to win $100 in this game one.

HOWEVER - if the play was Chicago which has a M/L of -125 I would be $125 to win 100 right??

Hockey is weird!

Yes. Juicy.

Just read the entire thread. Good read.

With the short season how many loses (not looses) can the system afford and still be proftable?

Originally Posted by AstroTexAg

Just read the entire thread. Good read.

With the short season how many loses (not looses) can the system afford and still be proftable?

Not possible to give you a straight answer, as there's no way of knowing ahead of time how many plays there will be or what the price of those plays will be.

Your best guess would be to simply take the amount of the average loss from last year, and then however many units that is, you know you would need that many system wins to make up for each loss (approximately). Even this guess would not be even close to perfect, as the system losses are much worse if you bet on a very juicy puckline in multiple games, etc., and would be much cheaper if you bet a -120 favorite and lost that 3 times in a row.

Wallco said in earlier posts that he expects 100-140 plays and that the average loss is 20 units. 5-7?

Originally Posted by AstroTexAg

Wallco said in earlier posts that he expects 100-140 plays and that the average loss is 20 units. 5-7?

I don't think he truly calculated an average, and that 20 units was just his own guesstimate. So, yes, what you said would be a fairly decent estimation, but extremely far from perfect. We could unluckily have 5 losses that are all -270 juicy plays, and then it would be much much more expensive than your guess. Likewise, we could have all cheap losses.

Originally Posted by degengamble

Good luck!

Degen, sent you a PM

I don't think some newcomers know what they are getting into. Chasing a mediocre team of all PL with say -220 juice loses almost 32 units if not successful. I followed this system the second half of the season last year and didn't have a single loss. I was doing $20 units, and remember one game I was risking around $600 on the C bet, not even factoring in all the money I had already lost on A and B. Talk about sweating a game out, holy shit! I remember explaining to my buddy I had this $600 bet just to win $20 This isn't for the faint of heart, and your unit size should be no more than 1% of your bankroll, which you should be OK with losing. If you did 2% bankroll unit, for example, you might not even handle 2 consecutive losses! And its even more dangerous this year with the shortened season, that's why Ill keep my eye on this but most likely not participating. Good Luck to everyone, but know what your getting into!!

Originally Posted by Grinder12000

So let me get this straight (first time betting on hockey).

#2 Chicago @ Minnesota (+1½)v1 (A) (8:05 pm EDT)

The play is Minnesota I see Minnesota as +1.5 -270 so IF I was betting $100 to win (I'm not) it would be $270 to win $100 in this game one.

HOWEVER - if the play was Chicago which has a M/L of -125 I would be $125 to win 100 right??

Hockey is weird!

MLB is the same except it's called a RUN LINE instead of PUCK LINE...or just SPREAD...(that's what my site calls it).

When you guys are talking losing 30 units that's for the entire chase or of the last game of that chase. A chase is just the framework for individual wagers, if I get hit by a truck those A and B games are gone

When I lose a chase in Stiflers NBA. I lose 10.85 units, not the 18 for the whole chase. I lost those extra units already.

Saying you are betting 600 to win 20 is a very bad thing to say to anybody and is just incorrect. Sure inside the framework of a chase yes but in reality it's just one wager.

Originally Posted by Grinder12000

When you guys are talking losing 30 units that's for the entire chase or of the last game of that chase. A chase is just the framework for individual wagers, if I get hit by a truck those A and B games are gone

When I lose a chase in Stiflers NBA. I lose 10.85 units, not the 18 for the whole chase. I lost those extra units already.

Saying you are betting 600 to win 20 is a very bad thing to say to anybody and is just incorrect. Sure inside the framework of a chase yes but in reality it's just one wager.

Last years losses are in post #1161. Amount lost is posted next to the team.

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 1-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +1.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-2.10 units)

(1/30/13):
#2 Minnesota (+1½) v1 (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 1-0
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0

v2 Plays
(A) 0-1
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0


Games for (1/31/13):
#1 Winnipeg @ Florida (M/L) v2 (B) (7:35 pm EST)
#3 St. Louis @ Columbus (+1½) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#4 Buffalo (+1½) @ Boston v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#5 Nashville (+1½) @ L.A. Kings v2 (A) (10:35 pm EST)
#6 Colorado (+1½) @ Calgary v2 (A) (9:05 pm EST)
#7 Edmonton (+1½) @ San Jose v1 (A) (10:35 pm EST)


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

Last years losses are in post #1161. Amount lost is posted next to the team.

Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u), PHO (-9.61 u)

So those losses are from the entire 3 game chase? Seems low compared to Stiflers NBA but this is only a 3 game as opposed to a 4 game. If those are the entire chase that's not bad at all.(knowing they can go higher but . . . )