Nope. Speaking of Cane, I made A LOT taking Stanislav Nedkov against him.Originally Posted by illmatick
I'm sure Gabe had the same confidence when Nog fought Luiz Cane, just a hunch.
You comparing Cane to The Gust? LOL
Yeah, that was an awful bet. You're lucky Cane was hit right behind the year.
You're way too fixated on his offense. He's there to be hit all day.He might not be as good a boxer, but yeah, I would say the combination of his athleticism, speed, movement, and kickboxing make him the better fighter on the feet.
It's never an awful bet when you're betting on the power of a fighters hands vs the weakness of his opponents chin, and in that case, I knew Nedkov's power would be too much for Cane. I saw him putting him away within 2 rounds, all he had to do was connect a few times. I saw getting Nedkov as a big underdog as a gift. The fact that you see it as a bad bet is just silly to hear coming from a guy who caps fights. Then again, most cappers here thought Beltran was gonna win when it seemed like it was gonna be an easy win for Lavar and was a gift getting him as a nice dog.
Not sure about that, everyone I know here was saying that Lavar had a decent shot in the first round.I would have played the round 1 prop myself if it was offered.
And I suggest you rewatch that fight. Cane was easily taking chin shots from Nedkov early in the round. The tko had a lot more to do with the placement of the punch(temple) more than Cane's actual lack of punch resistance. 90% of fighters are gonna get wobbled when they get hit in that spot.
Last edited by illmatick; 01-29-12 at 06:40 PM.
There was no one punch that put Cane away. He was still in it after a few hard hits, but Nedkov rained it on him. Those fists could connect with that head a certain number of times before the head goes down. Only way Cane would win is if he used really good head movement with lots of kicks and jabs or took the fight to the ground.
Lavar had a shot in the 1st round? lol he would have won in any round. he would have taken a decision of beltran could continue being a punching bag for another 2 rounds. he was a great play straight up. best value play on the entire card, as i stated in my thread.
"Those fists could connect with that head a certain number of times before the head goes down. Only way Cane would win is if he used really good head movement with lots of kicks and jabs or took the fight to the ground."
derp.
I'll give you credit for your Lavar pick but I still would have liked my chances had that fight made it to round 3.
In round 3, Beltran would be down 2 rounds and he would be beaten and more worn out than Lavar. There is no way he would be able to put Lavar away in the 3rd, considering the punishment he was taking."Those fists could connect with that head a certain number of times before the head goes down. Only way Cane would win is if he used really good head movement with lots of kicks and jabs or took the fight to the ground."
I had never seen Lavar videos before this fight came up. While researching the fight, it became clear to me that Beltran hadn't been hit by anyone who hits as hard as Lavar. Dude throws serious bombs and knees. That's why I said I would not be surprised at all if Beltran gets KO'd for the first time in his career.
Last edited by gabe; 01-29-12 at 11:07 PM.
Guess we'll never know.
Like i said,I give you credit for the play but don't act like everyone here didn't say that Lavar had a decent shot in the first round.
Last edited by illmatick; 01-29-12 at 11:22 PM.
Everyone? I remember TWO people saying that IF he wins, his ONLY chance would be in the first round. That is way, waaay off. It was CLEAR that Beltran would have no chance in that fight, no matter what round it went to. He looked so weak against Lavar, Rogan even suggested he drop to 205. If Beltran's durability was good enough to withstand this type of punishment which he had never received before, then he just would have lost a 3 round decision. I knew it was either that or Lavar KO.Guess we'll never know. Like i said,I give you credit for the play but don't act like everyone here didn't say that Lavar had a decent shot in the first round.
Anyway, I love you, Illie. Where are you from?
You could very well be right. For me though, Beltran had shown in the past that he fights through fatigue a lot better than Lavar. When Lavar gasses, he gasses hard, and tends to accept defeat fairly quick. His fight with Lolohea Mahe was the only time he showed some life after gassing, but that was more to do with the fact that Mahe was gassed just as bad if not worse.
I'm in Austin. I'll treat to you an icecream cone if you're ever in town.
Last edited by illmatick; 01-30-12 at 12:16 AM.
The way this fight was looking, Beltran looked like he would be gassed out by round 2. Never seen him get worn out like that. Videos of Lavar I watched show him looking good throughout two rounds. I don't think I watched any fights that went to the third. If this fight did go to the third, it just looked clear to me from everything we saw in the first round that Beltran would barely be able to stand one that third round started. And Lavar wouldn't gas so quickly when he's cruising with his strikes. I think he'd be able to take it slow and pick Beltran apart on the feet with jabs and kicks for 5 rounds without being too tired. Don't think Beltran would have been able to put on any kind of pressure.You could very well be right. For me though, Beltran had shown in the past that he fights through fatigue a lot better than Lavar. When Lavar gasses, he gasses hard, and tends to accept defeat fairly quick. His fight with Lolohea Mahe was the only time he showed some life after gassing, but that was more to do with the fact that Mahe was gassed just as bad if not worse. I'm in Austin. I'll treat to you an icecream cone if you're ever in town.
I plan to do some shows in Austin later this year when I'm ready to hit the road.
Or maybe I'll just get a part-time job cleaning bat-shit. Whichever works out first.
haha Could be worseThe way this fight was looking, Beltran looked like he would be gassed out by round 2. Never seen him get worn out like that. Videos of Lavar I watched show him looking good throughout two rounds. I don't think I watched any fights that went to the third. If this fight did go to the third, it just looked clear to me from everything we saw in the first round that Beltran would barely be able to stand one that third round started. And Lavar wouldn't gas so quickly when he's cruising with his strikes. I think he'd be able to take it slow and pick Beltran apart on the feet with jabs and kicks for 5 rounds without being too tired. Don't think Beltran would have been able to put on any kind of pressure.
I plan to do some shows in Austin later this year when I'm ready to hit the road.
Or maybe I'll just get a part-time job cleaning bat-shit. Whichever works out first.
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