Im on that as well. Bacynski @ +300 is a must play . 2 friggin years away plus coming off multiple surgeries and he is -400!?? GTFOOriginally Posted by Wilbo86
Werdum by KO, +1090, what do you think, value?
i second that my brotha.I can picture Browne wanting to land a power shot and rushing in, gets tied up and goes down with one of the leg trips, or just allowing werdum to grab him and fall back to guard. I know its possible for Browne to land on werdum but if it stays standing long enough he will get frustrated.
I picture Browne thinking that he can pound werdum out on the ground if need be, and if he gets too confident on the ground with werdum he will have a bad night.
Maybe I'm just not sold on the striking prowess of Browne as much as everyone else, but I think Werdum is being underestimated here.
Yeah i was looking at that, he's got a decent size advantage as well. He still looks like a bit of a slow, lumbering, uninspiring fighter.Im on that as well. Bacynski @ +300 is a must play . 2 friggin years away plus coming off multiple surgeries and he is -400!?? GTFO
I third that.i second that my brotha.
Motion passed, court adjourned.
i wonder when Brown became this feared striker? Ever since the Dos Santos knockout Werdum had handled every so called striker. Brown was getting absolutely destroyed by Reem standing. Of course he won. Everyone beats Reem if they can bring him into deep water which would be over a round and a half.
Werdum was cut way to quick, I believe he would of been champ. Should of been champ.
Werdum was getting the best of Reem standing as well, made the whole K1 level stiking thing seem like a bit of a farce. I have more Hespect for my own K1 level gamblingi wonder when Brown became this feared striker? Ever since the Dos Santos knockout Werdum had handled every so called striker. Brown was getting absolutely destroyed by Reem standing. Of course he won. Everyone beats Reem if they can bring him into deep water which would be over a round and a half.
Last edited by Wilbo86; 04-17-14 at 07:07 PM.
Ok... Main Card.... My take.. http://www.ufc.com/event/FOX11
- Thinking Werdum gets dropped in the 1st round.. Feel pretty confident either way that Travis Browne wins this bout... Travis is more athletic, the better striker, and his wrestling is good enough now to stop Werdums takedowns or get back up if taken down.. Travis has a long reach and should tap that chin early on..
- Mesha Tate and Liz.. I think this is gonna be a coin toss, Mesha has the hype from fighting Rhonda Rousey lately but Liz brings it. 2-1 favorite is Mesha... Thinking that perhaps Liz might take Mesha in this one the more I think about the match up.... Tough fight to call that probably goes the distance.. Both girls are tough and hard to finish..
- Tamarez vs Romero - I'm thinking Tamaraz comes into this fight with a huge experience advantage over Romero as having almost twice as many pro fights.. I think Tamarez is a tough dude that can weather the first round storm of Romero.. Romero is intimidating physically and explosive but his gas tank is suspect I believe.. I don't think Tamarez will break in this fight.. Tamarez finds a way to win this one late I believe as Romero begins to gas and get sloppy..
- Cowboy Cerrone vs Barboza - Flip a coin in this one.. I'm slightly leaning towards Barboza in a rebound fight for him, he's athletic, explosive and I think he will be able to strike with Cowboy.. As I said earlier I don't like how Cowboy sticks his chin out in recent fight.. Length of Barboza and speed just might catch him in this one.. This should still be an awesome fight to check.. Even odds going in so even the odds makers are flipping a coin in this one...
If anyone else has another take on these fights please share and explain why?
Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-17-14 at 10:28 PM.
Browne beat Overeem in the first round. Also, Werdum and Mir took Overeem all three rounds and still lost.i wonder when Brown became this feared striker? Ever since the Dos Santos knockout Werdum had handled every so called striker. Brown was getting absolutely destroyed by Reem standing. Of course he won. Everyone beats Reem if they can bring him into deep water which would be over a round and a half.
At face value sure, i still don't see these fights as comparable/mma math being relevant. I think Werdum had a bad strategy in that fight. He was winning on the feet but then kept pulling guard (I think, been a while since i watched it) and a gassed Overeem was happy to oblige with top control and inactivity. On top of that there's a much greater chance he was clean when he fought Browne.Browne beat Overeem in the first round. Also, Werdum and Mir took Overeem all three rounds and still lost.
Keep in mind Travis Browne has only lost one fight in his MMA pro career.. That's saying something, he's also looked really good in recent fights... Last fight he was probably in the best shape he's ever been in some would say...
http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Travis-Browne
Werdum owns a Jits gym here in Santa Monica, California where I live, he's the nicest guy and a huge man... Too nice that's his problem.. I don't think Werdum fights with evil intentions.. He's a Jits guy first so it's to be expected... Anyways, Travis Browne has been fighting with a purpose of late and is really dialed in..
Anything can happen in a fight and especially in a HW fight where the big guys hit hard or can gas and get injured quickly, but everything points to Travis Browne winning this fight in my mind unless the unexpected happens..
Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-18-14 at 12:22 AM.
At face value? It's simply true. It's Werdum's fault that he didn't want to really try to win the second Overeem fight and Mir just got smashed for 3 rounds. Travis took a beating that would cause most fighters to quit and came back and got the kill a minute later. He deserves serious credit for that.At face value sure, i still don't see these fights as comparable/mma math being relevant. I think Werdum had a bad strategy in that fight. He was winning on the feet but then kept pulling guard (I think, been a while since i watched it) and a gassed Overeem was happy to oblige with top control and inactivity. On top of that there's a much greater chance he was clean when he fought Browne.
Noted. I guess the point I was trying to make was that that fight probably says more about Travis Browne's durability, which as you say should be credited, than it does about his skills as a technical striker.At face value? It's simply true. It's Werdum's fault that he didn't want to really try to win the second Overeem fight and Mir just got smashed for 3 rounds. Travis took a beating that would cause most fighters to quit and came back and got the kill a minute later. He deserves serious credit for that.
Is the Browne fight going to look like Werdum vs Overeem 2?
Mir is washed up and Werdum fought him 35 years ago. There was a very good case that the brown?Reem fight should have been stopped so Brown would have lost in the first round. I saw a piss slow bigfoot out punch Brown. I know he hurt his legs but he still couldn't dodge those slow punches like he should haveBrowne beat Overeem in the first round. Also, Werdum and Mir took Overeem all three rounds and still lost.
