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#496

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UPDATED for 7/12/2014
System(s) record Chase:

Regular system: 119-7-0; Profit: +104 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units, OAK loss -7.07 units, KC -8.5 units, COL -10.25 units, CLE -7 units. BOS -13.25 units, TEX -6.5 units)
Filtered System: 16-2-0; Profit: +5 units (TEX - 7.5 units)
5/2 chase: 3-2-0; profit: -30.30 units (TEX -25.5 units)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 84-42; 12-7
Game 2 (B) win = 19-24; 2-4; 2-3
Game 3 (C) win = 16-7; 2-2; 1-2

Labby

x-26-26-x
35-45-55-55
x-x-38-88

Labby filtered (changing to single line labby since there arent enough plays to justify a 3-line)

36-39-36-40-x

Regular -- all (A) plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
(C) LAD -110 to win 88

Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play

none

5/2

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#498

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I reviewed the posts and found 11 units that were miscounted. The unit total has been updated.

Regular: +94 units - 14 units on the line = +80 units in the first half
Filtered: +5 units in the first half, since this is a single line labby and all units are updated with losses (nothing is 'banked'), no adjustment necessary
5/2: -30.30 units (TEX series was -25.5 units alone)

= +54.70 units

2H rules for Regular and Filtered -- only play ON teams with a .500 better record overall or at home
5/2 rules stay the same because that is how it was backtested (someone correct me if I am wrong re: 5/2)

UPDATED for 7/18/2014
System(s) record Chase:

Regular system: 120-7-0; Profit: +94 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units, OAK loss -7.07 units, KC -8.5 units, COL -10.25 units, CLE -7 units. BOS -13.25 units, TEX -6.5 units)
Filtered System: 16-2-0; Profit: +5 units (TEX - 7.5 units)
5/2 chase: 3-2-0; profit: -30.30 units (TEX -25.5 units)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 84-42; 12-7
Game 2 (B) win = 19-24; 2-4; 2-3
Game 3 (C) win = 17-7; 2-2; 1-2

Labby

20-20-20-20-20-20
20-20-25-25
x-20-28-22

Labby filtered (changing to single line labby since there arent enough plays to justify a 3-line)

36-39-36-40

Regular -- all (A) plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
(A) PIT -152 to win 20
(A) WAS -163 to win 20
(A) ATL -155 to win 20
(A) DET -150 to win 20
(A) CHW -167 to win 20
(A) OAK -154 to win 20

Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play

(A) DET -150 to win 36** not official as of this post, 8.5 juice over
(A) CHW -167 to win 36** not official as of this post, 8.5 juice over

5/2

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#501

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UPDATED for 7/19/2014
System(s) record Chase:

Regular system: 124-7-0; Profit: +98 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units, OAK loss -7.07 units, KC -8.5 units, COL -10.25 units, CLE -7 units. BOS -13.25 units, TEX -6.5 units)
Filtered System: 16-2-0; Profit: +5 units (TEX - 7.5 units)
5/2 chase: 3-2-0; profit: -30.30 units (TEX -25.5 units)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 88-44; 12-7
Game 2 (B) win = 19-24; 2-4; 2-3
Game 3 (C) win = 17-7; 2-2; 1-2

Labby

20-20-16-15-x-x
20-20-40-41
x-20-28-22

Labby filtered (changing to single line labby since there arent enough plays to justify a 3-line)

36-39-36-40

Regular -- all (A) plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
(B) WAS -126 to win 41
(B/C) DET +120/-170 to win 40/68 -- -170 and to win 68 is the (C) game in case the first game of the 2x header loses

Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play

none

5/2

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#505

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I was thinking about Wallco's post this morning and he is right. I will have to go back through the thread still and figure out how much this system is actually up to prove it though.

There are two ways to keep track of the total profit for this system.
#1 every day add the profit and substract the loss
#2 If you do not want to subtract the loss from profit based on labby theory then only add .5 to 1u for every win. If your labby line starts off 20-20-20-20 each number being 1u and you take a couple of losses and your new line looks like 30-30-30-30, do not add 1.5u for every win. You only gained 1u per number you crossed off. Even if your labby is 40-40-40-40 after a couple of losses you should only be adding the profit of the orginal number on the line for correct profit.
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Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
#1 every day add the profit and substract the loss
It is as simple as it gets.


What is your balance in the book you use. Simple as that.

I hate it when guys do the " I dont count a loss until the chase losses." crap.

Well guess what your book does each and every day. Sure count the overall record as you what. But when it comes to real money ,,,post the balance, just as you wake up each and every day and see in your book.

on3 is doing a great job of this. But I think a monetary value needs to be placed on that unit. Whether it be $10 or $100 , who cares. A daily balance will be the most accurate way of knowing. Your overall record can reflect the losses. But the real way of nothing is with cash. Because my book does not recognize units nor widgets for that matter.
#507

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03/31/14 PIT -160
03/31/14 TB -157
03/31/14 CHW -158
03/31/14 MIA -150
03/31/14 DET -150
04/04/14 WAS -167
04/04/14 DET -160
04/04/14 CHC -145
04/04/14 LAD -170
04/04/14 CLE -176
04/04/14 KC -159
04/04/14 BOS -149
04/05/14 WAS -162
04/05/14 CHC +124
04/05/14 LAD +111
04/05/14 BOS -176
04/06/14 WAS -114
04/06/14 CHC +109
04/06/14 LAD -147
04/06/14 BOS -160
04/07/14 STL -145
04/07/14 COL -148
04/07/14 CLE -151
04/07/14 BOS -154
04/08/14 SF -148
04/08/14 WAS -173
04/08/14 TOR -175
04/11/14 SEA -148
04/11/14 BAL -148
04/11/14 TEX -106 RL
04/11/14 SF -168
04/11/14 LAA -160
04/12/14 BAL -113
04/12/14 TEX -159
04/13/14 TEX -155
04/17/14 TB -170
04/18/14 TB -108
04/18/14 OAK +100 RL
04/18/14 TEX -153
04/18/14 LAD -178
04/18/14 COL -150
04/19/14 LAD -185
04/21/14 SEA -107 RL
04/21/14 ATL -175
04/21/14 DET +110 RL
04/21/14 CLE -152
04/22/14 SEA -169
04/22/14 DET -110 RL
04/22/14 TB +105 RL
04/23/14 SEA -145
04/24/14 WAS -165
04/25/14 WAS +110 RL
04/25/14 MIL -176
04/25/14 SF -160
04/25/14 ATL -152
04/28/14 STL -160
04/28/14 SF -168
04/29/14 STL -153
04/29/14 SF -159
04/29/14 NYY -172
04/29/14 BOS -163
04/30/14 STL -142
04/30/14 NYY -130
05/02/14 CLE
05/02/14 SD
05/03/14 SD -133
05/04/14 SD -123
05/05/14 CLE -146
05/05/14 DET -120 RL
05/05/14 OAK +110 RL
05/05/14 LAA -148
05/06/14 CLE -133
05/06/14 OAK -160
05/07/14 OAK +109
05/09/14 CIN -164
05/09/14 BAL -165
05/09/14 DET +105 RL
05/09/14 ATL -174
05/09/14 TEX -145
05/09/14 SD +119
05/10/14 DET -125 RL
05/12/14 STL -152
05/12/14 LAD -145
05/12/14 OAK -186
05/12/14 SEA -158
05/13/14 STL +100 RL
05/15/14 STL -188
05/15/14 LAA -145
05/16/14 TEX -165
05/16/14 COL -155
05/17/14 TEX -109
05/18/14 TEX +105
05/19/14 WAS -175
05/19/14 KC +110 RL
05/19/14 LAA -185
05/20/14 STL -178
05/20/14 WAS -107
05/20/14 KC -187
05/20/14 LAA -165
05/21/14 KC -116
05/22/14 CWS -150
05/22/14 SEA -154
05/23/14 SF -164
05/23/14 LAA -154
05/26/14 TOR -148
05/26/14 MIL -148
05/26/14 KC -153
05/26/14 STL -159
05/27/14 MIL -121
05/27/14 KC -122
05/27/14 STL -142
05/28/14 KC -135
05/30/14 WAS
05/30/14 CLE
05/30/14 MIL
05/30/14 STL
05/31/14 STL -166
06/02/14 LAD -186
06/03/14 COL -155
06/03/14 WAS -186
06/04/14 COL -125
06/05/14 COL -128
06/06/14 TEX -164
06/06/14 LAA +110 RL
06/06/14 TOR -150
06/06/14 SF -140
06/06/14 TB -137
06/06/14 DET
06/09/14 TOR -168
06/09/14 PIT -147
06/12/14 BOS -148
06/13/14 DET -154
06/13/14 OAK -182
06/13/14 SEA +120 RL
06/13/14 LAD +115 RL
06/14/14 DET +105 RL
06/14/14 OAK -148
06/14/14 SEA -117
06/14/14 LAD -138
06/15/14 SEA -165
06/16/14 BOS -153
06/16/14 STL -153
06/16/14 OAK -165
06/16/14 LAD -180
06/17/14 NYY -170
06/17/14 OAK +100
06/19/14 OAK -158
06/19/14 STL -170
06/19/14 TB -152
06/20/14 STL -163
06/20/14 CIN -145
06/20/14 NYY -148
06/20/14 CLE -150
06/20/14 LAA -185
06/21/14 STL -150
06/21/14 CIN -121
06/21/14 CLE -120
06/22/14 CLE +100
06/23/14 TB -153
06/23/14 SF -157
06/24/14 TB -133
06/24/14 SF -151
06/25/14 TB -165
06/25/14 SF -115
06/26/14 TOR -165
06/26/14 PIT -149
06/26/14 MIL +115 RL
06/30/14 BOS -155
06/30/14 WAS -105 RL
06/30/14 ATL -164
07/01/14 BOS -168
07/02/14 BOS -160
07/03/14 LAA -168
07/03/14 OAK -151
07/03/14 DET -175
07/04/14 PIT +115 RL
07/04/14 CHW -156
07/04/14 STL -148
07/04/14 ATL -163
07/04/14 WAS
07/05/14 WAS +115 RL
07/07/14 CLE -146
07/07/14 CIN -165
07/07/14 BOS +100 RL
07/07/14 STL -160
07/07/14 LAA -165
07/07/14 SEA -105 RL
07/07/14 TEX -150
07/08/14 CLE +141
07/08/14 BOS -161
07/08/14 TEX -140
07/09/14 BOS -105
07/09/14 TEX +100 RL
07/10/14 LAD -115 RL
07/11/14 LAD -140
07/11/14 CLE -105 RL
07/11/14 COL -158
07/12/14 LAD -110
07/18/14 PIT -152
07/18/14 WAS -163
07/18/14 ATL -155
07/18/14 DET -150
07/18/14 CHW -167
07/18/14 OAK -154
07/19/14 WAS -126
07/19/14 DET +120
07/19/14 DET -170

Here is the list of all the plays this season. I gotta go through it and figure out which ones won and which ones lost, but i used the odds on3 used in the thread as well as took out some of the plays which later fell below -145 on the A bets noted in the thread. Will try and get an updated total of the actual money won in this thread using the bet sizes on3 post.

However it was not until 4/28/2014 where he started posting bet amounts so I will assume all bets before then was to win $20. If on3 wants to correct plays between 3/31 with the correct bet amounts I can fix it in my excel sheet.
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date game w/l to win profit
03/31/14 pit -160 w $20.00 $20.00
03/31/14 tb -157 w $20.00 $20.00
03/31/14 chw -158 w $20.00 $20.00
03/31/14 mia -150 w $20.00 $20.00
03/31/14 det -150 w $20.00 $20.00
04/04/14 was -167 l $20.00 -$33.40
04/04/14 det -160 w $20.00 $20.00
04/04/14 chc -145 l $20.00 -$20.00
04/04/14 lad -170 l $20.00 -$34.00
04/04/14 cle -176 w $20.00 $20.00
04/04/14 kc -159 w $20.00 $20.00
04/04/14 bos -149 l $20.00 -$29.80
04/05/14 was -162 l $20.00 -$32.40
04/05/14 chc +124 l $20.00 -$16.13
04/05/14 lad +111 l $20.00 -$18.00
04/05/14 bos -176 l $20.00 -$35.20
04/06/14 was -114 w $20.00 $20.00
04/06/14 chc +109 w $20.00 $20.00
04/06/14 lad -147 w $20.00 $20.00
04/06/14 bos -160 l $20.00 -$32.00
04/07/14 stl -145 w $20.00 $20.00
04/07/14 col -148 w $20.00 $20.00
04/07/14 cle -151 ppd $20.00 $0.00
04/07/14 bos -154 w $20.00 $20.00
04/08/14 sf -148 w $20.00 $20.00
04/08/14 was -173 w $20.00 $20.00
04/08/14 tor -175 w $20.00 $20.00
04/11/14 sea -148 w $20.00 $20.00
04/11/14 bal -148 l $20.00 -$29.60
04/11/14 tex -106 rl l $20.00 -$21.20
04/11/14 sf -168 w $20.00 $20.00
04/11/14 laa -160 w $20.00 $20.00
04/12/14 bal -113 w $20.00 $20.00
04/12/14 tex -159 l $20.00 -$31.80
04/13/14 tex -155 w $20.00 $20.00
04/17/14 tb -170 l $20.00 -$34.00
04/18/14 tb -108 w $20.00 $20.00
04/18/14 oak +100 rl w $20.00 $20.00
04/18/14 tex -153 w $20.00 $20.00
04/18/14 lad -178 l $20.00 -$35.60
04/18/14 col -150 w $20.00 $20.00
04/19/14 lad -185 w $20.00 $20.00
04/21/14 sea -107 rl l $20.00 -$18.69
04/21/14 atl -175 w $20.00 $20.00
04/21/14 det +110 rl l $20.00 -$18.18
04/21/14 cle -152 w $20.00 $20.00
04/22/14 sea -169 l $20.00 -$33.80
04/22/14 det -110 rl w $20.00 $20.00
04/22/14 tb +105 rl w $20.00 $20.00
04/23/14 sea -145 w $20.00 $20.00
04/24/14 was -165 l $20.00 -$33.00
04/25/14 was +110 rl w $20.00 $20.00
04/25/14 mil -176 w $20.00 $20.00
04/25/14 sf -160 w $20.00 $20.00
04/28/14 stl -160 l $20.00 -$32.00
04/28/14 sf -168 l $20.00 -$33.60
04/29/14 stl -153 l $36.00 -$55.08
04/29/14 sf -159 w $37.00 $37.00
04/29/14 nyy -172 l $27.00 -$46.44
04/29/14 bos -163 w $26.00 $26.00
04/30/14 stl -142 w $48.00 $48.00
04/30/14 nyy -130 ppd $41.00 $0.00
05/02/14 cle -146 w $20.00 $20.00
05/02/14 sd -142 l $20.00 -$28.40
05/03/14 sd -133 l $41.00 -$54.53
05/04/14 sd -123 w $37.00 $37.00
05/05/14 cle -146 l $34.00 -$49.64
05/05/14 det -120 rl w $36.00 $36.00
05/05/14 oak +110 rl l $38.00 -$34.54
05/05/14 laa -148 w $32.00 $32.00
05/06/14 cle -133 w $39.00 $39.00
05/06/14 oak -160 l $39.00 -$62.40
05/07/14 oak -157 w $41.00 $41.00
05/09/14 cin -164 w $26.00 $26.00
05/09/14 bal -165 w $26.00 $26.00
05/09/14 det +105 rl l $29.00 -$27.62
05/09/14 atl -174 w $25.00 $25.00
05/09/14 tex -145 w $24.00 $24.00
05/09/14 sd +119 w $24.00 $24.00
05/10/14 det -125 rl w $45.00 $45.00
05/12/14 stl -152 l $31.00 -$47.12
05/12/14 lad -145 w $31.00 $31.00
05/12/14 oak -186 w $29.00 $29.00
05/12/14 sea -158 w $29.00 $29.00
05/13/14 stl +100 rl l $52.00 -$52.00
05/15/14 stl -188 w $56.00 $56.00
05/15/14 laa -145 w $36.00 $36.00
05/16/14 tex -165 l $25.00 -$41.25
05/16/14 col -155 w $26.00 $26.00
05/17/14 tex -109 l $62.00 -$67.58
05/18/14 tex +105 w $79.00 $79.00
05/19/14 was -175 l $40.00 -$70.00
05/19/14 kc +110 rl l $40.00 -$36.36
05/19/14 laa -185 l $40.00 -$74.00
05/20/14 stl -178 w $45.00 $45.00
05/20/14 was -107 w $70.00 $70.00
05/20/14 kc -187 l $65.00 -$121.55
05/20/14 laa -165 w $67.00 $67.00
05/21/14 kc -116 w $102.00 $102.00
05/22/14 cws -150 w $33.00 $33.00
05/22/14 sea -154 w $32.00 $32.00
05/23/14 sf -164 w $31.00 $31.00
05/23/14 laa -154 w $31.00 $31.00
05/26/14 tor -148 w $20.00 $20.00
05/26/14 mil -148 l $20.00 -$29.60
05/26/14 kc -153 l $20.00 -$30.60
05/26/14 stl -159 l $20.00 -$31.80
05/27/14 mil -121 w $48.00 $48.00
05/27/14 kc -122 l $48.00 -$58.56
05/27/14 stl -142 w $46.00 $46.00
05/28/14 kc -135 l $36.00 -$48.60
05/30/14 was -171 w $36.00 $36.00
05/30/14 cle -165 w $40.00 $40.00
05/30/14 mil -165 w $40.00 $40.00
05/30/14 stl -148 l $69.00 -$102.12
05/31/14 stl -166 w $90.00 $90.00
06/02/14 lad -186 w $30.00 $30.00
06/03/14 col -155 l $30.00 -$46.50
06/03/14 was -186 w $25.00 $25.00
06/04/14 col -125 l $52.00 -$65.00
06/05/14 col -128 l $75.00 -$96.00
06/06/14 tex -164 w $30.00 $30.00
06/06/14 laa +110 rl w $33.00 $33.00
06/06/14 tor -150 w $30.00 $30.00
06/06/14 sf -140 w $30.00 $30.00
06/06/14 tb -137 w $33.00 $33.00
06/06/14 det w $20.00 $20.00
06/09/14 tor -168 w $30.00 $30.00
06/09/14 pit -147 w $30.00 $30.00
06/12/14 bos -148 w $25.00 $25.00
06/13/14 det -154 l $25.00 -$38.50
06/13/14 oak -182 l $25.00 -$45.50
06/13/14 sea +120 rl l $25.00 -$20.83
06/13/14 lad +115 rl l $25.00 -$21.74
06/14/14 det +105 rl w $45.00 $45.00
06/14/14 oak -148 w $45.00 $45.00
06/14/14 sea -117 l $36.00 -$42.12
06/14/14 lad -138 w $40.00 $40.00
06/15/14 sea -165 w $56.00 $56.00
06/16/14 bos -153 w $36.00 $36.00
06/16/14 stl -153 w $36.00 $36.00
06/16/14 oak -165 l $36.00 -$59.40
06/16/14 lad -180 w $36.00 $36.00
06/17/14 nyy -170 w $36.00 $36.00
06/17/14 oak +100 w $66.00 $66.00
06/19/14 oak -158 w $29.00 $29.00
06/19/14 stl -170 l $26.00 -$44.20
06/19/14 tb -152 w $30.00 $30.00
06/20/14 stl -163 l $47.00 -$76.61
06/20/14 cin -145 l $20.00 -$29.00
06/20/14 nyy -148 w $26.00 $26.00
06/20/14 cle -150 l $22.00 -$33.00
06/20/14 laa -185 w $20.00 $20.00
06/21/14 stl -150 w $68.00 $68.00
06/21/14 cin -121 w $38.00 $38.00
06/21/14 cle -120 l $39.00 -$46.80
06/22/14 cle +100 l $62.00 -$62.00
06/23/14 tb -153 l $35.00 -$53.55
06/23/14 sf -157 l $37.00 -$58.09
06/24/14 tb -133 l $65.00 -$86.45
06/24/14 sf -151 l $59.00 -$89.09
06/25/14 tb -165 w $81.00 $81.00
06/25/14 sf -115 w $79.00 $79.00
06/26/14 tor -165 w $32.00 $32.00
06/26/14 pit -149 w $32.00 $32.00
06/26/14 mil +115 rl w $32.00 $32.00
06/30/14 bos -155 l $30.00 -$46.50
06/30/14 was -105 rl w $30.00 $30.00
06/30/14 atl -164 w $30.00 $30.00
07/01/14 bos -168 l $50.00 -$84.00
07/02/14 bos -160 l $84.00 -$134.40
07/03/14 laa -168 w $30.00 $30.00
07/03/14 oak -151 w $30.00 $30.00
07/03/14 det -175 w $30.00 $30.00
07/04/14 pit +115 rl w $27.00 $27.00
07/04/14 chw -156 w $27.00 $27.00
07/04/14 stl -148 w $27.00 $27.00
07/04/14 atl -163 w $26.00 $26.00
07/04/14 was -153 l $20.00 -$30.60
07/05/14 was +115 rl w $45.00 $45.00
07/07/14 cle -146 l $20.00 -$29.20
07/07/14 cin -165 w $20.00 $20.00
07/07/14 bos +100 rl l $20.00 -$20.00
07/07/14 stl -160 w $20.00 $20.00
07/07/14 laa -165 w $20.00 $20.00
07/07/14 sea -105 rl w $20.00 $20.00
07/07/14 tex -150 l $20.00 -$30.00
07/08/14 cle +141 w $32.00 $32.00
07/08/14 bos -161 l $35.00 -$56.35
07/08/14 tex -140 l $35.00 -$49.00
07/09/14 bos -105 w $53.00 $53.00
07/09/14 tex +100 rl l $53.00 -$53.00
07/10/14 lad -115 rl l $30.00 -$34.50
07/11/14 lad -140 l $55.00 -$77.00
07/11/14 cle -105 rl w $26.00 $26.00
07/11/14 col -158 w $26.00 $26.00
07/12/14 lad -110 l $88.00 -$96.80
07/18/14 pit -152 w $20.00 $20.00
07/18/14 was -163 l $20.00 -$32.60
07/18/14 atl -155 w $20.00 $20.00
07/18/14 det -150 l $20.00 -$30.00
07/18/14 chw -167 w $20.00 $20.00
07/18/14 oak -154 w $20.00 $20.00
07/19/14 was -126 w $41.00 $41.00
07/19/14 det +120 l $40.00 -$33.33
07/19/14 det -170 l $68.00 -$115.60
$312.55
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Wallco was right, I hate to say it, but the system is up $312.55 (15.62u) to date. Huge difference in profit from on3's post. And even if you subtract whats on the labby line, hell substract the entire labby line and you will not get the actual profit. A technical error led to a huge difference based on labby theory. Some one may double check my work with their own but I am pretty confident in this number. As stated before the first month or so I just listed everything as $20 since there was no bet size posted.

Sorry to be a downer in the thread, but the work had to be shown. If we could I would like to use this number going forward in the thread for an accuracte record.
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Nice work JM .

Now at the close of business(COB) or end of day should have a balance just as you have +$312.55.

Then the start of business the balance posted along with the plays. Its not as if we are landing a spacecraft on a passing asteroid here.

btw on3 great work on your behalf. wallco, just like myself and others Im sure, like things a bit more precise and clear.

The idea of a labby system is to determine bet size, ONLY. Not to bank uncashed checks. It is simply a spelled out formula. No different than if we were using Kelly Criteria "formula" to determine what we should be betting on our next bet.
Last edited by BarstoolProphet; 07-20-14 at 04:49 PM. Reason: Added thought.