[mukas pukas]

This is an interesting matchup.

Ferrer has managed well to get to this point, but is he a semifinal quality player? more importantly, is he an aussie open FINALS quality player? I think not. He has played very well, perhaps as well as I've ever seen him, but his skills are second class to the top, top tier. It's why he's never cracked through players like fed/rafa/djok, despite years of consistent competitive tennis. Even the talented young Raonic hit winners at will in the first set against him. It was his experience and tenacity to force mistakes that won that match from a young guy. His tenacity again played Rafa into an injury with a dogfight in the first game. A healthy Rafa wins that match 9/10 times, maybe more. But effort counts too and he has made career doing this and made the most of these situations and has a chance to do it again.

Murray is playing the second best tennis in the tourny, maybe the best of his life right now as well. His achilles heal is what it always has been, not his superior skills, but his focus and consistency and tendency to *ahem, choke when it comes to the slams. He managed to lose a set (the 3rd set) to an exhausted and inconsistent dolgopolov. When he plays hard and more imporantly, smart, he's almost unbeatable and par with rafa. Ferrer can't be him, but he can beat himself and Ferrer may help by forcing extra shots and thinner margins for winners. I expect Ferrer to win at least a set, but a showdown with murray and djoker in the final is what we'll get.

A bet on murray at -400 is ill advised in my opinion. Ferrer has a fighters chance and has played firm, intelligent tennis. The trouble is, we just haven't seen ferrer defeat a real contender at his best (rafa was injured) so it's hard to gauge him

who agrees? who disagrees? why?

also worth noting, ferrer's fitness is less an advantage as murray is one of the most fit and 5-set capable players on tour, also with a bigger serve and tiebreak edge.

[jsmithj88]

murray will beat ferrer. this is ferrers 2nd GS semi. in his entire career. i think murray has already been in a few GS semi's and also a GS final as well.
murray shud win this in less than 5 sets.

[SportsMushroom]

books suck

two top 10 players in the semi final of a grand slam and you get one sided odds like this

i agree that murray wins this, the quesion is how easy or how difficult will it be

[kingsr]

This could be the classic 5 setter that we've all been waiting for this tournament. Ferrer could frustate Murray, forcing him to make errors.

Over 3.5 sets is the play here.

[JOHON8]

books suck

two top 10 players in the semi final of a grand slam and you get one sided odds like this

i agree that murray wins this, the quesion is how easy or how difficult will it be

If you think they're wrong then exploit them, otherwise they did a great job preventing people from getting a good price on Murray.

[MickeyMan]

Ferrer owns the head to head edge but his wins were on clay...i think murray wins for sure but not sure if he covers the six game spread??

[mukas pukas]

a play that might appeal to some of you, take murray to win 3-1, and 3-2. proportion your wagers correctly, and you've made a +157 wager for murray in 4/5 sets. personally i am still on the fence, ferrer's price is appealing, but i cannot see ferrer - djoka in the final. may stay away from this all together

[Wilforth]

The books are of the opinion that Murray will win. All they've done with that insane line is to take away the value on Murray. You now either pass or take Murray 3-1 or 3-2. I'm not saying Ferrer can't win but I think Ferrer is a sucker bet.

[Mirar Baseball]

If you think they're wrong then exploit them, otherwise they did a great job preventing people from getting a good price on Murray.

.... who, by the way, won twelve sets out of twelve possible vs Ferrer on hardcourts

[Mirar Baseball]

The books are of the opinion that Murray will win. All they've done with that insane line is to take away the value on Murray. You now either pass or take Murray 3-1 or 3-2. I'm not saying Ferrer can't win but I think Ferrer is a sucker bet.

[mlb]

agreed .. people will like that line with ferrer especially after beating rafa

[Mikail]

Murray will win easy. Ferrer shouldn't have even made it this far. Nadal's "injury" is the only reason Ferrer is still playing. I will commend him on winning some tough matches against quality ranked players this tourney but Andy will prove too much for him.

[blingish]

a play that might appeal to some of you, take murray to win 3-1, and 3-2. proportion your wagers correctly, and you've made a +157 wager for murray in 4/5 sets. personally i am still on the fence, ferrer's price is appealing, but i cannot see ferrer - djoka in the final. may stay away from this all together

I love these plays. 1 unit on each plus 1 unit on Ferrer. Only way you lose your ass is if Murray wins in straights. IDK thoughts? This coming from the guy that laid the limit on Federer and over 39 last night. But I think this is the play tonight. Thoughts and opinions more than welcome before I pull the trigger

[Mirar Baseball]

I love these plays. 1 unit on each plus 1 unit on Ferrer. Only way you lose your ass is if Murray wins in straights. IDK thoughts? This coming from the guy that laid the limit on Federer and over 39 last night. But I think this is the play tonight. Thoughts and opinions more than welcome before I pull the trigger

so basically you're banking on TennisBabe to lose his fourth straight wager

don't think that happened once last year... but good luck to you

[blingish]

so basically you're banking on TennisBabe to lose his fourth straight wager

don't think that happened once last year... but good luck to you

Not really on tennis babe losing but more on Ferrer to win a set or more. Thanks for the reply, It will definately make me think a little harder before I make any bets

[gators0708]

Ferrer gets it done tonight!!

[sorena]

murry for me.

[blingish]

Ferrer gets it done tonight!!

Maybe not outright but maybe he steals a set? Rafa wasn't healthy but he is still Rafa. And Ferrer won in fairly convincing fashion. Murray has dropped sets in this major so far and he does have a rep for choking. I'm just saying I think Ferrer has a decent shot at a set or two here.

[GoldRush7]

murray hasnt lost a single set to ferrer on a hard court... murray in straight sets for EV and Murray -5.5 games for -135.

[Nom1]

How about under 38.5, I think that may be the safest play here.

[yoteamo79]

not if goes to 4th or 5th set

[obie]

This could be the classic 5 setter that we've all been waiting for this tournament. Ferrer could frustate Murray, forcing him to make errors.

Over 3.5 sets is the play here.

I strongly disagree!

i THINK, if Murray takes the first set easy (like I think he will) Ferrer can not come back into the game. Murray is simply to strong, and i know that Ferrer doesnt make a lot of unforced errors, but neither does Murray! We all know that, and knowing Ferrer's age, and Murray's strong fitt, i highly disagree to take over 3,5 set. It is simply to dangerous that Murray will run right over him. Sorry for my bad english, hope you can understand

[yisman]

I can't see betting Ferrer here and I also can't see betting that it'll go 4 or 5. Why should it?

I think I'm staying away.

[yoteamo79]

Wager type : Proposition/Future
Description : Tennis Tournaments
2011 Australian Open
Mens Semifinals
331 Set Betting - D Ferrer vs A Murray
335 A Murray win 3-1 +220
Amount : Risking $40.32 To Win $88.70 USD

[beerman2619]

heard the same crap when Ferrer played Nadel. Ferrer wins this one kids.

[reformed]

some of you really dont understand tennis if you are saying ferrer won only because nadal was injured and he is not a semifinal player. ferrer was playing at an astronomical level in his last match and would have beaten any player in tennis on that day. If he plays like that today, murray has no chance. will he? probably not but are 3:1 odds good enough to take a chance? I think they are

[Mirar Baseball]

How about under 38.5, I think that may be the safest play here.

Just in case, you know, the underdog wins 3-0?

[yoteamo79]

Wager type : Proposition/Future
Description : Tennis Tournaments
2011 Australian Open
Mens Semifinals
327 Match 1st Set - D Ferrer vs A Murray
327 D Ferrer - 1st Set +240
Amount : Risking $40.32 To Win $96.77 USD

[Nom1]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nom1
How about under 38.5, I think that may be the safest play here.

Just in case, you know, the underdog wins 3-0?

what do u mean ?

[Nom1]

[COLOR=#000000 !important]not if goes to 4th or 5th set, 38.5 will only be broken if they go to 5[/COLOR]

[hawley]

is that wozniacki in murrays box

[Mirar Baseball]

is that wozniacki in murrays box

Yes sir. Yesterday Ana, today Caroline. The cameramen sure do a hell of a job. Eyecandy!

[superpapak]

Ferrer is in the form of his life, I even think he can win this Grand Slam.
Murray didn't play as well as the results show.

[The Bet Master]

Ferrer is in the form of his life, I even think he can win this Grand Slam.
Murray didn't play as well as the results show.

I guarantee he won't win this slam.

[mukas pukas]

heard the same crap when Ferrer played Nadel. Ferrer wins this one kids.

yep. nailed it