[Optional]

Just noticed that for the first time in about 10 years of these... I am leading!

(have Nadal to win it though, so guess this will be short lived)

Rank	Name	Entry ID	Points	Tie Breaker	Comments
1	Optional	786569	179	14	0
2	ncrossley	784219	175	14	0
2	playersonly69	787904	175	11	0
2	GoatMilk	788099	175	31	0
2	Pin0cchio	788124	175	10	0
6	jrgum3	781692	173	25	0
7	ttwarrior1	784306	172	12	0
7	JaimeMiro	789291	172	13	0
9	pavyracer	782392	171	35	0
10	yisman	786903	170	14	0
11	ArunSh	785896	169	9	0
12	Miklos	787926	168	15	0
13	beefcake13	787938	167	15	0
13	vladfan	786821	167	12	0
13	le kid de cincinnati	781640	167	33	0
16	Stefan.	785061	165	9	0
16	JAKEPEAVY21	783540	165	18	0
18	mpohtc	782479	164	31	0
18	fried cheese	785814	164	5	0
18	DR225	787844	164	14	0
21	Daniel Espinosa	785488	163	15	0
22	Chaz22	785946	162	10	0
22	EmpireMaker	787273	162	28	0
22	cricketer	789460	162	14	0
25	MrSink	787452	161	9	0
25	thetrinity	786592	161	27	0
25	msutter13	785978	161	8	0
25	deadphish	786051	161	9	0
25	mr. teaser	782389	161	11	0
30	danjoan	783166	160	10	0
31	Krashman	784289	159	13	0
32	bigt71906	781870	158	20	0
32	sam losco	782251	158	17	0
34	SamsNCharge99	782264	157	8	0
34	unlearn	787446	157	11	0
34	Tcarv	789149	157	28	0
37	gunslinger572	789887	153	13	0
38	eSTOXX	786361	152	12	0
39	Imarocketpro	787662	151	22	0
39	Crusherrr	785067	151	11	0
39	HossWilbur	789067	151	14	0
42	spider1212	790217	150	11	0
42	toga toga	786189	150	32	0
44	Chiefs83	784179	148	31	0
45	MrHappy20	788263	146	6	0
46	ninjagorn	788802	142	7	0
47	EuBIGLeague	786032	141	9	0
48	shadymcgrady	781691	140	13	0
49	Chief Wahoo	785923	139	15	0
50	IanSBR	784406	134	20	0

[cincinnatikid513]

opti u actually picked joker to win it all


if joker beats thiem in final u win

if joker beats zverev in final u win


all u need is joker to win and u win the contest and u thought u had nadal

[Optional]

opti u actually picked joker to win it all


if joker beats thiem in final u win

if joker beats zverev in final u win


all u need is joker to win and u win the contest and u thought u had nadal

Thanks Cinci!

I am usually happy to not be near last in these.

I used to follow/bet tennis closely too. But all darts and guesses this year.

[unlearn]

Nice job opti

[beefcake]

Congrats opti

[shari91]

Thanks to the insane heat here throwing all of our plans for the day and night for a loop, I'm doing the scores manually tonight as I keep getting alerted that the Tennis Channel has mis-scored a few results. If when I post your name it's in bold it's just an alert for me that yours needs to be done manually at the end of the tourney. I'm going to post round by round so just bear with me, and I'll do the same for the women after I do the men

[cincinnatikid513]

Thanks to the insane heat here throwing all of our plans for the day and night for a loop, I'm doing the scores manually tonight as I keep getting alerted that the Tennis Channel has mis-scored a few results. If when I post your name it's in bold it's just an alert for me that yours needs to be done manually at the end of the tourney. I'm going to post round by round so just bear with me, and I'll do the same for the women after I do the men

eye balling optis winning entry looks to be right they fixed the foggini result i wouldnt go tbru each one manualy will take hours upon hours surely better things to do this contest is over its in the bag joker wins opti is the champ

[ArunSh]

Yes, the totals for the men's seems ok (well I only checked my entry lol). But something is definitely amiss with the women's scores, not totaling those properly - perhaps why the whatif scenarios are not showing properly either.

[cincinnatikid513]

Yes, the totals for the men's seems ok (well I only checked my entry lol). But something is definitely amiss with the women's scores, not totaling those properly - perhaps why the whatif scenarios are not showing properly either.

they didnt even offer up a prize for main contest, cheap buggers brackets were slower than usual update , i was able get what if last night very strange

[shari91]

Yes, the totals for the men's seems ok (well I only checked my entry lol). But something is definitely amiss with the women's scores, not totaling those properly - perhaps why the whatif scenarios are not showing properly either.

Yeah it looks like they fixed the Fognini error. I won't worry about doing the men's tonight then... if anyone spots an issue just let me know and I'll go through it then. The women are going to take ages as there really are a lot wrong and I can't figure out yet where the issue is but if I don't have to do both tonight then I obviously prefer not to as I still have to do my normal forum stuff.

[MrSink]

someone told shari knows tennis well . well , last place in mens contest

[MrSink]

oh well , last in womens too

[cincinnatikid513]

someone told shari knows tennis well . well , last place in mens contest

she did a quick pick on both chillax

[Crusherrr]

This tourneytopia site is awful. Is this official yet?

[cincinnatikid513]

what a joke haven't even updated it yet so piss poor tourny topia

[ArunSh]

what a joke haven't even updated it yet so piss poor tourny topia

Yes, hopefully we can find a better site to do this on in future, should not be hard to update faster, even probably could automate it somehow.

[jrgum3]

All I know is Thiem had it and if he won I would've come in 3rd place. Unfortunately he didn't get it done so I fell all the way to 30th place or something like that.

[ArunSh]

All I know is Thiem had it and if he won I would've come in 3rd place. Unfortunately he didn't get it done so I fell all the way to 30th place or something like that.

Yes, as I've said many times, I do wish the later matches didn't count for quite as much. If the winner is not someone too obscure (like it was in the women's), unless you pick the right winner you will never finish in the Top 10 even though you may have picked way better than other folks in the first + second rounds and thereby having way more overall correct picks in totality.

[shari91]

If we don’t use the tennis channel site for the French I’ll open it up to suggestions on how we can rejig the scoring. Years ago pre TC we had a different format but it just became easier to go along with theirs as people also entered the main contests too. I’ve benefited and also suffered thanks to the heavy weighting of the latter rounds but it also does make sense... to start with 128 players and come up with the two who will be in the finals despite injuries, weather (heat here but also including numerous rain delays at some Slams) and whatever else may happen, people should be rewarded for choosing those two and eventually one out of 128.

When I’m home tonight I’ll post the final results for those not checking the site and will send off the top ten of both to be paid tomorrow. Thanks again for entering everyone and putting up with a few glitches this time around!

[cincinnatikid513]

google searching tennis bracket challenges does not give out a vast number of results

its seems this site global tennis network has something where u can create bracket challenges, might be something to look into if tourny topia doesn't shape up, going to have to write them some more nice emails see what's going on


https://www.globaltennisnetwork.com/...archChallenges

[ArunSh]

If we don’t use the tennis channel site for the French I’ll open it up to suggestions on how we can rejig the scoring. Years ago pre TC we had a different format but it just became easier to go along with theirs as people also entered the main contests too. I’ve benefited and also suffered thanks to the heavy weighting of the latter rounds but it also does make sense... to start with 128 players and come up with the two who will be in the finals despite injuries, weather (heat here but also including numerous rain delays at some Slams) and whatever else may happen, people should be rewarded for choosing those two and eventually one out of 128.

When I’m home tonight I’ll post the final results for those not checking the site and will send off the top ten of both to be paid tomorrow. Thanks again for entering everyone and putting up with a few glitches this time around!

Thanks for running these shari - they are definitely a ton of fun whatever the exact format might be. Your efforts are definitely appreciated!

I agree with what you said that people who pick the final two/winner should be rewarded, I just think that 30 points for the winner vs only 1 point for a correct first round is too big of a difference - makes the early rounds too inconsequential (they amount to tiebreaking essentially at most).

Something such as by round this number of points for each correct pick: 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 12

or something of that sort (lot of little changes could be made), I think would still greatly reward those who pick the final two + winner correctly, but at the same time give the early rounds a much bigger overall weight, and I like that.

I've also felt this way in general about March Madness contests, that I feel the later picks, while they should count for more, still count for way too much in comparison to the early picks. Again, if the winner is not some obscure team, if you don't pick the winner you have absolutely no chance to finish near the top, and that gives that one pick too much weight I feel - should be more about whose overall bracket is more accurate than who happened to get the winner correct.

I mean the way it's structured now if two people pick the same two players in Finals but different winners, even if the one who picked the wrong winner got ten more correct in round one than the other (and therefore surely more correct in round two), they would probably lose between the two of them, and again that feels like too much weight on that pick.

All of this is just my opinion again though - others surely might disagree with me!

[Pinocchio]

The best point structure I can think of is this simple one:

1st round: 1 point
2nd round: 2 points
3rd round: 3 points
4th round: 4 points
Quarterfinals: 5 points
Semifinals: 8 points
Final: 10 points

Rewards late-round picks just fine, yet keeps the point differential between early rounds compared to the latter rounds reasonable.

[shari91]

I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly I can change the scoring for private contests so if they get their act together over there when the French rolls around I'll ditch their scoring and then we can collectively decide on the best weighting structure.

I really want to avoid the old way we did it where everything was manual and it took us not only hours to enter but also for me to score every two days. It's definitely not feasible with this many people entering so fingers crossed they just dropped the ball this time and will go back to normal for the next one!

[shari91]

FINAL RESULTS - TOP TEN

1. Optional - 2500 Betpoints

2. Cross - 2000 BP

3. Crusherrr - 1500 BP

4. MrHappy - 1000

5. Pinocchio - 750

6. playersonly69 - 300

7. mpohtc - 300

8. yisman - 300

9. ArunSh - 300

10. Krashman - 300


Congrats again to all the winners and your prizes should be paid later today!

[SamsNCharge99]

congrats winners

[Crusherrr]

Awesome contest. Thanks Shari!

Congrats on the win Opti

[ArunSh]

Yes, thanks as always - fun stuff!

[leovegas]

Good work Optional!

[beefcake]

Congrats opti!!

[Cross]

Thanks for another great contest, nice job Everyone!

[SBR_Guest_Pro]

good point

[cincinnatikid513]

the guy won who thought he picked nadal to win it all my oh my

australians

[Optional]

Thankyou all

[ArunSh]

Thanks for the payments again SBR - until the French Open then. Hopefully smoother then, but hey if I cash in both again, that'd be good too!

[Krashman]

Stopped using the quick pick button this time and it paid off!

Thanks Shari for all your work on this!

Great contest thanks SBR!