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    Any thought on the Shanghai final this evening? Nadal/Fed

    I'm leaning towards Nadal and could use some outside opinions to help make the final decision. Does anyone have a strong lean either way on this match?

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    Boy that's some serious discussion we were able to strike up in here....
    Taking Nadal -145...BOL for anyone on board.

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    Fed is too good tonight
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    brutal. Fed just steamrolled him. Chalk that one up as a loss

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    Fed has become superman at 36 years old, after looking done 4 years ago. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeeHAWWWW View Post
    Fed has become superman at 36 years old, after looking done 4 years ago. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on there.
    Fed never looked done at any point. You watch the matches. He was in the finals every year at 32 years old. That's done? Playing against a Novak Djokovic who was maybe on the greatest tear in history of the sport.... And Fed was losing heartbreak final after heartbreaker. Couple points here or there to swing the match.

    It's pretty obvious that Federer has completely changed the way he plays. He is being more aggressive now than at any point in his career and his backhand has become much more consistent. He's not running around it. He kept getting inside his own head.

    The best part was when you said Federer looked "done" 4 years ago.

    So getting to the finals every year, mutliple times a year but losing means your done?

    I guess that Kyrios, Dimitrov, Goffin, Isner, Tsonga -- all these clowns should just retire because they're "done." They certaintly weren't making any finals, ever. And won't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Fed never looked done at any point. You watch the matches. He was in the finals every year at 32 years old.
    Nope. Four years ago he didn't make a single slam final: lost Aus sfs to Murray, French QFs to Tsonga, Wimbledon R2 to Stakhovsky, US R4 to Robredo.

    2014 he had slam losses to Gulbis and Cilic, 2015 to Seppi.

    Fans of course never see the obvious, same in every sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeeHAWWWW View Post
    Nope. Four years ago he didn't make a single slam final: lost Aus sfs to Murray, French QFs to Tsonga, Wimbledon R2 to Stakhovsky, US R4 to Robredo.

    2014 he had slam losses to Gulbis and Cilic, 2015 to Seppi.

    Fans of course never see the obvious, same in every sport.
    He struggled with back injuries the whole year in 2013. He only won one title that year, Halle. He bounced back in 2014: he won 5 titles, with 2 Masters 1000, Wimbledon and WTF finals. That's not "done", most players spent their whole career without a Master 1000 or Grand Slam final. In 2015, he performed even better, reaching 2 GS finals and winning 6 titles.
    In 2014, he lost to Gulbis in 5 sets in Roland Garros, which was always his weakest surface. And Gulbis was having a great year back then, he finished 17-5 on clay and beat Berdych in straight sets the next round. He lost to a God mode Cillic in the US Open, the same tournament in which Djokovic lost to Nishikori. Cillic was playing lights out that tournament, did you even watch it? Oh and since Djoker lost in the semis as well, he was "done" too, right? Oh wait, he won 3 slams the next year. Twice beating a "done" Federer in 2 tough matches.

    Seppi loss was weird, but hey, so was Murray's loss to Mischa, Djoker loss to Istomin and Nadal's loss to Pouille/Fognini and whatever on grass.

    Haters of course never see the obvious, same in every sport.

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