[Conqueror]

If that were the case, that's where most tennis players belong.

[gorwin068]

Which ones make you frustrated?
even two top seed were knocked out in straight set in the first round in ATP. Odds were 1.06 and 1.08 respectively

[Conqueror]

Which ones make you frustrated?
even two top seed were knocked out in straight set in the first round in ATP. Odds were 1.06 and 1.08 respectively

This has been ongoing for a while now. Imagine how you can't even feel confident adding a 1.06 (-1666) pick to a parlay!

[Chaz22]

This has been ongoing for a while now. Imagine how you can't even feel confident adding a 1.06 (-1666) pick to a parlay!

there is a solution - dont add them

[Jeff_Black]

Those Russian tournaments are known for match fixing where players get approached.
Think when Djokovic was approached to throw a match in 2006 it was one of those but Not 100% sure

[gorwin068]

Those Russian tournaments are known for match fixing where players get approached.
Think when Djokovic was approached to throw a match in 2006 it was one of those but Not 100% sure

Totally agree. Not long ago, I still remember the St. Petersburg Open in September, both Raonic and Wawrinka should have won their match but they finally threw it away, so damn suspicious.

[xdodger19]

There is a hell, all the unsaved go to hell, then God throws them in the lake of fire
To Be saved believe the gospel of Jesus Christ

[Plaza23]

Saw it in the WTA last week. It's pointless to bet Tennis this late in the season. Players don't care at this point.

[Chaz22]

I dont think it has to do something with Russia or with betting against themselves. It's just too damn risky.

They are simply just too tired.

Look at Monfils yesterday.....dont blame the ankle there....he could run, but he was just mentally and also physically exhausted.....

Same with all the americans who joined this Stoccholm's joke tournament....Almost all of them failed very early.....Sock somehow got through but his days are counted as well.

They are tired. Period.

[JohnHanson]

I dont think it has to do something with Russia or with betting against themselves. It's just too damn risky.

They are simply just too tired.

Look at Monfils yesterday.....dont blame the ankle there....he could run, but he was just mentally and also physically exhausted.....

Same with all the americans who joined this Stoccholm's joke tournament....Almost all of them failed very early.....Sock somehow got through but his days are counted as well.

They are tired. Period.

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Don't talk about fixing etc. that's benefits nobody. Better to look at the played spots and show if the pre-analysis was this good.

Bautista-Agut was coming from the Final (16.10.16) vs. Murray in Shanghai. Traveled to Moscow, trained not that much in this week, peak goes down etc. and played a few days later the first game vs. a talented young russian, where has already with qualification three games on this surface with much motivation to show hisself the tennisworld and grind some ATP points. It has a reason why the top players, don't play this smaller ATPs (250).

This smaller ATPs (250) in the end of the year has nothing to do with fixing. Simple reason are, that the topplayers have more games in their bones incl. Grand Slams. The "Challenger" Players or worser players have always good chances in this smaller ATPs with a lot of surprices, also a big reasona re the better motivation.