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    Tell this to all the people that threw Nishikori into their 10 teamers today...

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    There is only one thing more predictable: People making retarded, redundant threads such as this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefcake View Post
    Tell this to all the people that threw Nishikori into their 10 teamers today...
    Underdogs are 1 for 16 so far and you pick out the one and hold it up like a special booger you just dug out

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Good luck and congratulations on your anniversary
    congrats!

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    Is anyone pounding favorite parlays???

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post
    Underdogs are 1 for 16 so far and you pick out the one and hold it up like a special booger you just dug out
    you're not listening are you? you are cherrypicking the huge underdogs that occur in the first round. how about the dogs in the 3rd round, 4th round, quarters, semis, finals?

    your statements and observations can apply to any sport where you are talking about -1300 or higher favorites.

    name all of the underdogs who lost. they are all nobodies. i just looked at the list again.

    (tennis fan since 1985 when boris becker at aged 17 romped through wimbledon)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Is anyone pounding favorite parlays???
    Yesterday was a much easier day for favorites parlays....1st round always the best

    Still going at the favorites parlay nonetheless..

    $150.00 $438.34 Pending 14 Team Parlay
    Pending 5/26/14 8:00am ATP Tennis 101 Rafael Nadal -11000* vs Robby Ginepri
    Pending 5/26/14 9:30am ATP Tennis 146 Kevin Anderson -285* vs Stephane Robert
    Cancelled 5/26/14 5:00am ATP Tennis 249 Albert Montanes -450* vs Kenny De Schepper
    Pending 5/26/14 6:30am ATP Tennis 274 Ernests Gulbis -1400* vs Lukasz Kubot
    Pending 5/26/14 6:30am ATP Tennis 306 Gilles Simon -910* vs Ante Pavic
    Pending 5/26/14 6:30am ATP Tennis 354 Novak Djokovic -10500* vs Joao Sousa
    Win 5/26/14 5:00am WTA Tennis 530 Sabine Lisicki -1750* vs Fiona Ferro
    Win 5/26/14 5:00am WTA Tennis 533 Dominika Cibulkova -800* vs Virginie Razzano
    Win 5/26/14 5:00am WTA Tennis 562 Maria Sharapova -2750* vs Ksenia Pervak
    Pending 5/26/14 6:30am WTA Tennis 610 Eugenie Bouchard -1600* vs Shahar Peer
    Pending 5/26/14 9:30am WTA Tennis 629 Petra Kvitova -650* vs Zarina Diyas
    Pending 5/26/14 9:30am WTA Tennis 642 Svetlana Kuznetsova -1250* vs Sofia Shapatava
    Pending 5/26/14 8:00am WTA Tennis 693 Jelena Jankovic -1265* vs Sharon Fichman
    Pending 5/26/14 8:00am WTA Tennis 741 Andrea Petkovic -880* vs Misaki Doi

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post
    Underdogs are 1 for 16 so far and you pick out the one and hold it up like a special booger you just dug out
    It was a HUGE booger though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcoar View Post
    There is only one thing more predictable: People making retarded, redundant threads such as this.
    so one winning underdog through 30 matches isnt worth noting? you might want to edit your post and change thread to ''my post''

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Is anyone pounding favorite parlays???
    Pending 8 Team Parlay
    Win 5/26/14 8:00am ATP Tennis 101 Rafael Nadal -11000* vs Robby Ginepri
    Pending 5/26/14 9:30am ATP Tennis 165 Stanislas Wawrinka -775* vs Guillermo Garcia-Lopez
    Win 5/26/14 6:30am ATP Tennis 354 Novak Djokovic -10250* vs Joao Sousa
    Win 5/26/14 5:00am WTA Tennis 562 Maria Sharapova -2750* vs Ksenia Pervak
    Pending 5/26/14 9:30am WTA Tennis 629 Petra Kvitova -650* vs Zarina Diyas
    Pending 5/26/14 8:00am WTA Tennis 693 Jelena Jankovic -1200* vs Sharon Fichman
    Pending 5/27/14 5:00am WTA Tennis 690 Simona Halep -900* vs Alisa Kleybanova
    Pending 5/27/14 5:00am WTA Tennis 754 Na Li -1800* vs Kristina Mladenovic

    Pays out 10 to 7.53

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    Wawrinka done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plaza23 View Post
    In 2013,
    Men's seeded players that lost in the 1st rd: 22,28,5,17,31
    Women's seeded players that lost in the 1st rd: 25,23,22,28,24,30,11

    In 2012,
    Men's seeded that lost: 16,23,15,26,30
    Women's seeded that lost: 5,17,32,12,30

    In 2011,
    Men's seeded that lost: 19,6,22,26,11
    Women's seeded that lost:18,19,26,31,20,22

    In 2010,
    Men's seeded that lost: 23,27,21,26,18
    Women's seeded that lost: 10,20,9

    If you just bet the women's top 8 in the 1st round, you'd have a 39/40 chance of winning 97.5%. The only top 8 seed on the women's side to lose in the last 4 yrs was Serena Williams (at #5).
    good job good effort, this is why past results mean nothing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    you're not listening are you? you are cherrypicking the huge underdogs that occur in the first round. how about the dogs in the 3rd round, 4th round, quarters, semis, finals?

    your statements and observations can apply to any sport where you are talking about -1300 or higher favorites.
    Yes i am listening. I am counting all underdogs, including all the +110 and + 160s, etc.

    Today there were a few upsets but taking all the favorites and just using Pinnacle line you would still be up about 2 units, 14 total for the first round
    Last edited by TheCentaur; 05-26-14 at 03:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob6199 View Post
    good job good effort, this is why past results mean nothing...
    Seedings mean plenty.
    If you can find something that pays 10 to 7.5 and have a 97.5% chance of winning - thats a great bet. 2.5% of the time you lose. it happens. Doesnt mean you ignore past data because an outlier in the present happens.

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    I think a better way to go at it would be betting the parlay and round robins of 4s,5s,and 6s, something like that.

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    yes badminton

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post
    Yes i am listening. I am counting all underdogs, including all the +110 and + 160s, etc.

    Today there were a few upsets but taking all the favorites and just using Pinnacle line you would still be up about 2 units, 14 total for the first round
    please list the underdogs who were +900 or better

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    please list the underdogs who were +900 or better
    holdme I hate homework

    Yes there are some big dogs but the majority are +500 or less

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    I wonder if you could say the same for -700 basketball or football favorites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I wonder if you could say the same for -700 basketball or football favorites?
    Its not just big favorites its +110, +180, +215 etc.

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    Centaur there are 4 times a yr that tennis players give max effort. U know those 4 times

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    Posters keep saying it's early rounds, big underdogs, etc.

    According to sbrodds page just using Pinnacle, if you bet all the men's favorites to win 1 unit in the 2013 French Open, you would have ended up +47.5 units

    Through the 1st round of 2014 French Open with the same strategy you would be +14 units

    I'm not saying expose yourself by laying 2500 to win 100

    I think a bunch of parlays and round robins are a good strategy though

    Tips appreciated
    Last edited by TheCentaur; 05-27-14 at 01:44 AM.

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    Backtested 2012 French Open

    Same strategy +23 units

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    Roland Garros Favs last ten years: -1.2% RoI.

    Bookies aren't stupid :-)

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    The great players give Max effort every tournament that's why their great players

    The ones that dog or subpar players the stats don't lie

    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    Centaur there are 4 times a yr that tennis players give max effort. U know those 4 times

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    Womens tennis was WAY more predictable today, TWO big dogs with 80-700 rank spots better than their shitty loser opponets

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    The great players give Max effort every tournament that's why their great players

    The ones that dog or subpar players the stats don't lie
    Coach u disagree even the top players oby give Max effort in slams. They might give almost their best effort in smaller tourneys but in slams they'll run down balls they won't do in smaller tourneys

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    +12.5 units so far this French Open

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    isner was a lock wow, not even a surprise 5th set

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    +9.5 units today

    +22 units so far 2014 men's French Open

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    unreal.

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    up 4 more units

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    Very chalky for mens side centaur, its unusual on clay and grass. Not the norm .nice work dude but tread lightly with this angle going forward

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    nice job

    favs should be getting tighter now as we head into week 2

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