1. 05-08-14 10:04 PM #1
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    giraldo a dog against agut?

    trap line if ever seen one, no?
    makes me think agut is the play.
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  2. 05-08-14 10:10 PM #2
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    No trap line, it's correct. It's because Agut will have a heavy home crowd playing in Spain.
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  3. 05-08-14 10:11 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicDiceFlow View Post
    No trap line, it's correct. It's because Agut will have a heavy home crowd playing in Spain.
    i predict 90% of the public money on giraldo.
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  4. 05-08-14 10:14 PM #4
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    Giraldo beat two top 15 players that were way out of their form. Nothing special.
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  5. 05-08-14 10:17 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by pazim View Post
    Giraldo beat two top 15 players that were way out of their form. Nothing special.
    as i said, i think agut is the play.
    but losing 2 matches in your last 16 is something special.
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  6. 05-08-14 10:18 PM #6
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    I see as a coinflip , those 2 are having a breakthrough year and I dont see a clear favorite for tomorrow

    I rather parlayed Nadal + Sushikori for easy coin.
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  7. 05-09-14 12:25 AM #7
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    This is giraldos shot to make it all the way. Agut hasn't been that great. Verdasco gave him the match and Kubot is nothing on clay really.
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  8. 05-09-14 12:34 AM #8
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    Either take it for a 3 set prop /over or pass and even that is no gimme. Anyone who sees an edge should post winning lotto picks too.

    Home court really means very little IMO. Talent and execution win matches, not crowds.
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  9. 05-09-14 12:35 AM #9
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    based purely on odds and public perception im thinking the books significantly give the edge to agut
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  10. 05-09-14 12:38 AM #10
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    I think public is split. Half fall for the home court edge. Half for Giraldo as they look at the names he beat.

    Absolute pass for me although likely to be a good match overall.
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  11. 05-09-14 12:39 AM #11
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    good point EP. may have to pass.
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  12. 05-09-14 01:03 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    Either take it for a 3 set prop /over or pass and even that is no gimme. Anyone who sees an edge should post winning lotto picks too.

    Home court really means very little IMO. Talent and execution win matches, not crowds.

    I disagree dude. Home court will help in those tight moments during the match especially during deuce points. Also don't forget , this isn't some rinky dink tournament, it's a Masters 1000 event so there will be a considerable crowd there. For the elite players like Nadal/Djoker , home crowd may have no effect on them but for the guys outside the top 30, you can bet it has some effect.

    I personally think Giraldo has more talent but will stay away from the match since it'll most likely be a coinflip.
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  13. 05-09-14 01:14 AM #13
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    I can't let go of Giraldo losing to Querry a the A/O.
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  14. 05-09-14 01:17 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluggy1616 View Post
    I can't let go of Giraldo losing to Querry a the A/O.
    ya i do this all the time with players too. think back to their horrible losses that made you go wtf.
    that was months ago dude. giraldo is absolutely on fire right now. and hes a dirt baller.
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  15. 05-09-14 01:21 AM #15
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    Lean to the over 22.5 games
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  16. 05-09-14 01:48 AM #16
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    I also think about how Agut handled Nishi much better than Giraldo did last tourney.
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  17. 05-09-14 02:06 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluggy1616 View Post
    I also think about how Agut handled Nishi much better than Giraldo did last tourney.
    Nish is playing way better now than that game though. He was coming back from injury and hadn't played for almost a month, plus it was the 1st clay match for the season for him.

    Also Giraldo's game is the players that Nish likes to play whereas Agut is a bit more difficult for Nish to deal with so wouldn't take the comparison of the two matches into consideration too much.

    In terms of the match today between Agut and Giraldo, the line pretty much says it all. It's a coin flip with Agut having the slight edge due to home advantage. Personally, I reckon whichever way u pick it's just hoping the coin lands on the right side.
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  18. 05-09-14 02:40 AM #18
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    Spanish crowd was to the point of rudeness last year supporting Verdasco. They did all they can to disturb Raonic and Tsonga.

    But Nando is born/lives in Madrid + a big name. Agut does not live in MAdrid + is not a big name + a very laid-back guy who does not seem to interact well with the crowd, like Andreas Seppi.
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  19. 05-09-14 02:42 AM #19
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    Agut is born/lives in Castellon de la Plana, a city in the north of Valencia and really close to Catalonia. No need to say Madrid hates Catalonia. Also The crowd may dislike Agut for beating Nando.

    I dont think there will be a crowd factor to the point of deciding the winner.
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  20. 05-09-14 10:11 AM #20
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    Im seeing a significant consensus on giraldo most places i look yet his odds have gone up on pinny.
    gonna take agut for shits n giggles.
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  21. 05-09-14 10:16 AM #21
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    Giraldo looks like free $$ as usual.. hope its not
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  22. 05-09-14 10:27 AM #22
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    Over 22
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  23. 05-09-14 10:33 AM #23
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    3 sets +145
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  24. 05-09-14 12:05 PM #24
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  25. 05-09-14 12:12 PM #25
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    Giraldo had so many chances to break in the 2nd. Think he was 0-5 in break chances in 2 straight services games.
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  26. 05-09-14 12:23 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bet10Heinekens View Post
    3 sets +145
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  27. 05-09-14 12:24 PM #27
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    Hey Bet, this is how you do it brotha.. And I was just having fun with this match, lol

    R. Bautista-Agut Sets VS S. Giraldo Sets
    Sets -1½ +200
    Risk 50.00 To Win 100.00
    Ticket Number 267301003 accepted
    Total Risk : 50.00
    Total Potential Win : 100.00
    Easy money there brotha. Time to put up the fishing poles, that or go to church more, lol
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  28. 05-09-14 01:34 PM #28
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    Told ya, playing at home was going to help Agut. Books saw this too which is why he was the favorite.
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  29. 05-09-14 02:05 PM #29
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    I still dont see how the home crowd factor helped Agut.

    I think he was the better player, although I took an over bet and lost
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