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    Large play on Roger tonight to beat Andy Murray .....here's why:

    The big question for a lot bettors tonight is whether Andy Murray is at full 100% from his back surgery. I will answer that in two words ......NOT YET. Here's why:

    Murray has been in decent form in this tournament. Not great , just decent and playing to his competition when needed. He's won his last four matches but if you take a look deeper, I am not quite convinced he's back at full 100% which he'll need to be to beat Federer tonight. Since coming back from surgery , Murray has lost to Tsonga in straights, Hewitt in straights, and a more surprising loss to Mayer all in the last 30 days. Now the pre-surgery/top form Murray would have never let that happen. Also, it seems to me that Murray has sort of resorted back to his defensive minded style of play. Not that the style is bad because we all know he's one of the best defenders in the game, but the Murray that won those two slams was the offensive minded Murray. I think it's more natural for Murray to play that defensive style and he has to be reminded sometimes to be more offensive.

    Now for Federer, you can also say that he lost to Hewitt but I believe Roger gifted that title to his friend Lleyton. If you watched that match, Roger looked like he just wanted to finish quick and get the hell out of there. At this point of his career , Roger doesnt need any more money, he doesnt care about points or being number #1, all he cares about are SLAMS. Grand Slam titles are the only thing that will add more to this man's legacy and that's all he cares about tennis wise in his life at this point. So if you take away that loss to Hewitt, the only two people that beat him since November are the two best in the world .... Nadal and Djokovic.

    I really like Federer's chances tonight and will be pounding the match for two dimes. I think he will play a focused and inspired match. It may end up being a tough and long four/five setter but in the end, I think Roger will show the world that even at the age of 32, he can still beat the elite players of the game.

    Best of Luck everyone

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    100% agreed.

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    Awesome write-up again MDF. Same size bet as berdych if I'm not mistaken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_Hicks View Post
    Awesome write-up again MDF. Same size bet as berdych if I'm not mistaken?
    Yep, same size bet Bill.....good luck.

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    Sport / Period : ATP Match Betting Tennis / Game
    Selection : R. Federer
    Time : 1/21/2014 4:00:01PM - (PST)
    Line : -125
    Game Notes : MATCH WAGERING - A full set must be completed for money line wagers to have action. The spread and total are based on sets and the full match must be completed for action. On first set betting, 1st set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid.


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    Makes sense, just like your Cibu pick. Will probably tail if I can get my money back with.. Dimitrov

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    I jumped on Fed as soon as the lines were released for this match. Maybe I'm over excited at what I saw of him in the Tsonga match but I'm willing to take the chance. If that Fed turns up against the Murray I've seen this tourney then he's got him, maybe even in three. I just saw that we were both on Cibu this morning too... man I love her when she's in the zone and nailing her shots. She can beat anyone when she's in that zone and getting her as a dog was just a bonus. Let's hope our good luck continues, especially with your big bet!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    I jumped on Fed as soon as the lines were released for this match. Maybe I'm over excited at what I saw of him in the Tsonga match but I'm willing to take the chance. If that Fed turns up against the Murray I've seen this tourney then he's got him, maybe even in three. I just saw that we were both on Cibu this morning too... man I love her when she's in the zone and nailing her shots. She can beat anyone when she's in that zone and getting her as a dog was just a bonus. Let's hope our good luck continues, especially with your big bet!!

    Yep, I grabbed Fed soon as I could in the morning. I was saying to myself, if that line was close to a pick, I'm taking Fed for the max. I just have a strong feeling Roger will be firing on all cylinders tonight now that he's this close and Djoker is gone.

    Great to see you on Cibulkova! I love Cibu ....she has been such a money player the last few weeks and I knew if she kept up that same form against Pova, Halep would be toast today. I love watching her play as well. I'm a big fan of strong groundstrokes and its incredible the pace and depth of shot she gets from that compact body.

    Best of luck to us tonight Shari ......let's root Roger into the Semis!

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    Going big on Federer myself. Will bet once Nadal / Dimitrov finishes

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    I'm staying away from this match, Murray isn't in great shape i totally agree with you on that but my concern is if he just makes Federer play enough balls he might beat himself.

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    Magic, when Murray lost to Tsonga and Mayer, that was his 1st and 3rd match back after sergery. Did you forget, he destroyed Wawrinka in his 2nd match. Also MDF, he threw his game against Hewitt so he could make his time and have a few days off @ the Aussie open .Trust me I watched....Mayer is tricky as well, we know because ferrer had to grind him down like he did vs Berdych for his level to drop.... I like your pick a Little bit on Federer. The motivation is there. I will throw out a warning to anyone wagering against Murrayi think this will be a ball sweater to see who wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt1216 View Post
    Magic, when Murray lost to Tsonga and Mayer, that was his 1st and 3rd match back after sergery. Did you forget, he destroyed Wawrinka in his 2nd match. Also MDF, he threw his game against Hewitt so he could make his time and have a few days off @ the Aussie open .Trust me I watched....Mayer is tricky as well, we know because ferrer had to grind him down like he did vs Berdych for his level to drop.... I like your pick a Little bit on Federer. The motivation is there. I will throw out a warning to anyone wagering against Murrayi think this will be a ball sweater to see who wins
    I'm looking forward to the match. This may be another barn burner which means probably staying up til 6am fourth night in a row but it will be worth it.

    GL Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicDiceFlow View Post
    I'm looking forward to the match. This may be another barn burner which means probably staying up til 6am fourth night in a row but it will be worth it.

    GL Matt
    Yeah I think so. I had 3 hours of sleep befor work watching djoker/wawrinka... I don't mind, it's only 2 weeks out of the year.

    GL man

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    Also on this bet heavy. Not to sure I like being in such a one-sided SBR affair, but there's no taking away from what Federer is doing, and I agree with your write-up.

    Good luck to us

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    I have a small play on Murray to win

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    Grand Slam titles are the only thing that will add more to this man's legacy and that's all he cares about tennis wise in his life at this point.


    I would agree with that. However, it's been over a year and a half.

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    Anyone not betting Fed in this match? LOL.

    Good luck MDF.

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    Heritage is taking a position on Federer.

    They've now made Murray +130. Pinnacle has +122.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicDiceFlow View Post
    Ticket Details :
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    Sport / Period : ATP Match Betting Tennis / Game
    Selection : R. Federer
    Time : 1/21/2014 4:00:01PM - (PST)
    Line : -125
    Game Notes : MATCH WAGERING - A full set must be completed for money line wagers to have action. The spread and total are based on sets and the full match must be completed for action. On first set betting, 1st set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid.

    Well my friend I am joining you with $2,200 on Federer

    Lets go Federer

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    Heritage is taking a position on Federer.

    They've now made Murray +130. Pinnacle has +122.

    Yep, I see Heritage got Fed at -150 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by losschaser View Post
    Well my friend I am joining you with $2,200 on Federer

    Lets go Federer

    Let's do this Chaser ......Go Roger!


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    550 on Rodger myself. I have a feeling this match won't be as close as people think.

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    Line is holding steady. Almost no movement the last hour or so.

    Heritage still with the best price for Murray of any sportsbook

    edit: DSI just went to +135

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    Line is holding steady. Almost no movement the last hour or so.

    Heritage still with the best price for Murray of any sportsbook

    edit: DSI just went to +135
    It's going to top out at Fed -150

    I'm interested to see what Heritage's so called "Reduced Juice for Australian Open Special" for tomorrow and Friday will be. They claim a "dime line" but I'm not sure how that's going to work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicDiceFlow View Post
    Ticket Details :
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    Sport / Period : ATP Match Betting Tennis / Game
    Selection : R. Federer
    Time : 1/21/2014 4:00:01PM - (PST)
    Line : -125
    Game Notes : MATCH WAGERING - A full set must be completed for money line wagers to have action. The spread and total are based on sets and the full match must be completed for action. On first set betting, 1st set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid.

    Obviously, when you fire 2,5k on a single bet, you know what you are talking about, because otherwise, you wouldn't have such large bankroll to work with... Anyway, I think that a good case for taking Murray at these odds could be made as well. Everyone is impressed with how Roger looked so far, but I think that Murray has weapons to take him to the limit here. Andy is one of the best returners and if he finds rhythm and find anwsers to Roger's serve, it should be a very interesting one. Also, if you noticed. RF is much more aggressive, when it comes to approching the net. He does it more often and even, when approach shots are not that good. And what Murray loves? He loves the target of course... It seems those are too small of a details to make difference, but I disagree. Such things can make difference. I am thinking about taking Murray +2 games.

    Anyway, good luck to all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicDiceFlow View Post
    Now for Federer, you can also say that he lost to Hewitt but I believe Roger gifted that title to his friend Lleyton.
    Are they that good a friends? (asking not arguing)

    I know Fed doesn't despise him as a classless brat anymore, but think that's almost hilarious if it's turned around to the point they are such friends Rog would gift him anything more than a kick in the bum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Are they that good a friends? (asking not arguing)

    I know Fed doesn't despise him as a classless brat anymore, but think that's almost hilarious if it's turned around to the point they are such friends Rog would gift him anything more than a kick in the bum
    They're friends now. The recent ROGERS AND FRIENDS charity tournament, Hewitt was invited and spoke at the benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Are they that good a friends? (asking not arguing)

    I know Fed doesn't despise him as a classless brat anymore, but think that's almost hilarious if it's turned around to the point they are such friends Rog would gift him anything more than a kick in the bum
    They are very good friends. They practice almost every off season they get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicDiceFlow View Post

    They're friends now. The recent ROGERS AND FRIENDS charity tournament, Hewitt was invited and spoke at the benefit.
    Quote Originally Posted by matt1216 View Post

    They are very good friends. They practice almost every off season they get.
    Guess I am way behind the times

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    One more set to go! Come onnnnnnnnnn Fed

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    umm, wtf just happened?? Fed u shit pump . 4 straight points to lose

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    Thanks for the play Magic! Solid capping as usuall bro!!!

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    bammmm well done everyone ! thanks MDF nice call
    Last edited by lucasdawg; 01-22-14 at 07:47 AM.

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    :d big wins

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    Somebody get MDF a fire extinguisher. Congrats man



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