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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcoar View Post
    I am sorry, if you somehow found yourself offended by my post. But I don't understand those rules. I thought that only players seeded 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th cannot be chosen as a bonus player. Because Kvitova was 6th, she should be eligible...

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    Two more I missed. PMs sent, but in case they come here first.

    Cross & suicidekings .. same issue.

    Rules state that you bonus player must be from one of your players in the group that is not ranked 1-4.

    Cross - that means yours needs to be Jankovic or Radwanksa


    suicidekings - yours needs to be Halep or Radwanska

    Please post your new bonus player in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honeybadger44 View Post
    I am sorry, if you somehow found yourself offended by my post. But I don't understand those rules. I thought that only players seeded 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th cannot be chosen as a bonus player. Because Kvitova was 6th, she should be eligible...
    The player has to be one of the ones chosen as part of your group players.

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    Damn, I was hoping that more than five went with Kvitova. Leg up to the nine who didn't choose her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    Rules state that you bonus player must be from one of your players in the group that is not ranked 1-4.

    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    suicidekings
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Stakhovsky
    Group 3: Berdych, Chardy, Karlovic
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Mahut
    BONUS PLAYER: DEL POTRO

    WTA
    Group 1: S.Williams, Vinci, Pironkova
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Riske
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Giorgi
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanska, McHale
    BONUS PLAYER: KERBER
    Kerber is a 9 seed and I picked her in Group 2. How does that not satisfy the criteria?

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    Sorry guys, you're right. I was scrolling down the list on my phone. I think I crossed a couple entries together or maybe just need more sleep. Yeah, sleep.

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    Will work on having an update upon complete of the 2nd round.

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    POINTS THROUGH 2nd ROUND
    NUMBER IN ( ) IS HOW MUCH YOU EARNED FOR EACH GROUP AND THEN I TOTALED THEM UP NEXT TO THE ATP & WTA SO YOU CAN SEE HOW YOUR POINTS BREAK DOWN SO FAR. OVERALL LEADER BOARD AT THE BOTTOM.


    EaglesPhan36 (374)
    ATP (118)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (5)
    Group 2: Tsonga, Isner, Cilic (13)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Thompson (70)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Gasquet, Groth (30)
    BONUS PLAYER: Berdych

    WTA (256)
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys (53)
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Puig (93)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Mladenovic (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Wozniacki, Muguruza (80)
    BONUS PLAYER: Kerber

    Hardcoar (375)
    ATP (159)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del-Potro, Lu (48)
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Delbonis (30)
    Group 3: Berdych, Youzhny, Dolgopolov (28)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53)
    Bonus player: Del-Potro

    WTA (216)
    Group 1: S. Williams, Bouchard, Pironkova (53)
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, V. Williams (-10)
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Voegele (93)
    Group 4: Azarenka, A. Radwanska, Muguruza (80)
    Bonus player: Jankovic

    Cross (487)
    ATP (191)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (5)
    Group 2: Federer, Isner, Cilic (53)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov (53)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Querrey (80)
    BONUS PLAYER: Federer

    WTA (296)
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys (160)
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Puig (53)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Jankovic, Petkovic (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, McHale (53)
    BONUS PLAYER: Keys

    suicidekings (359)
    ATP (115)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (25)
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Stakhovsky (30)
    Group 3: Berdych, Chardy, Karlovic (30)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Mahut (30)
    BONUS PLAYER: DEL POTRO

    WTA (244)
    Group 1: S.Williams, Vinci, Pironkova (18)
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Riske (120)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Giorgi (53)
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanska, McHale (53)
    BONUS PLAYER: KERBER

    STAY STRONG (458)
    ATP (238)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (25)
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic (53)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Mayer (80)
    Group 4: Wawrinka, Djokovic, Istomin (80)
    BONUS: Del Potro

    WTA (220)
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys (80)
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, Wickmayer (-10)
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Sanders (70)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, Muguruza (80)
    BONUS: Jankovic

    MiddleMan (374)
    ATP (208)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (5)
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Stakhovsky (30)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Mayer (120)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53)
    BONUS: Berdych

    WTA (166)
    Group 1: Williams, Ivanovic, Keys (53)
    Group 2: Na Li, Kvitova, Wickmayer (-10)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Jankovic, Siniakova (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, Schmiedlova (93)
    BONUS: Radwanska

    RealMadrid (353)
    ATP (160)
    Group 1: NADAL, NISHIKORI, SMYCZEK (30)
    Group 2: TSONGA, FEDERER, ODESNIK (70)
    Group 3: BERDYCH, FERRER, RAMOS (30)
    Group 4: WAWRINKA, DJOKOVIC, GROTH (30)
    BONUS PLAYER: TSONGA

    WTA (193)
    Group 1: S.WILLIAMS, STOSUR, KEYS (80)
    Group 2: MAKAROVA, KVITOVA, KUDRYAVTSEVA (13)
    Group 3: CIBULKOVA, HALEP, BEGU (30)
    Group 4: A.RADWANSKA, AZARENKA, BABOS (70)
    BONUS PLAYER: RADWANSKA

    khas_il (381)
    ATP (86)
    Group 1: Del Potro, Hewitt, Nadal (25)
    Group 2: Tsonga, Cilic, Isner (13)
    Group 3: Berdych, Youzhny, Sousa (-5)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53)
    Bonus player: Del Potro

    WTA (295)
    Group 1: Williams, Bouchard, Keys (80)
    Group 2: Na, Lisicki, Riske (65)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Petkovic, Halep (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Stephens, Muguruza (120)
    Bonus player: Stephens

    Honeybadger44 (425)
    ATP (169)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (25)
    Group 2: Murray, Verdasco, Cilic (38)
    Group 3: Ferrer, Berdych, Dolgopolov (53)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53)
    Bonus player: Del Potro

    WTA (256)
    Group 1: S. Williams, Bouchard, Beck (53)
    Group 2: Li Na, Kerber, Puig (53)
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Petkovic (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Stephens, Muguruza (120)
    Bonus player: Stephens

    yisman (377)
    ATP (211)
    Group 1: Nadal, del Potro, Hewitt (25)
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic (53)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov (53)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Querrey (80)
    BONUS PLAYER: del Potro

    WTA (166)
    Group 1: Serena, Ivanovic, Pironkova (53)
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, V.Williams (-10)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Petkovic (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanska, McHale (93)
    BONUS PLAYER: Radwanska

    Bumdeal (459)
    ATP (216)
    Group 1: Nadal, Raonic, Hewitt (30)
    Group 2: Isner, Tsonga, Cilic (13)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov (93)
    Group 4: Wawrkinka, Djokovic, Querrey (80)
    bonus player: Berdych

    WTA (243)
    Group 1: S Williams, Vinci, L Davis (40)
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, V Williams (30)
    Group 3: Halep, Sharapova, Voegele (93)
    Group 4: Radwanska, Azarenka, Muguruza (80)
    bonus player: Halep

    chaz22 (399)
    ATP (206)
    Group 1: Nadal, Delpo, Gojowczyk (5)
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic (53)
    Group 3: Ferrer, Berdych, Mayer F.(80)
    Group 4: Wawrinka, Gulbis, Nieminen (68)
    Bonus Player: Wawa

    WTA (193)
    Group 1: Serena, Errani, Keys (40)
    Group 2: Kerber, Makarova, Zhang (30)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Petkovic (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanksa, McHale (93)
    Bonus player: Radwanska


    LEADERBOARD
    Cross (487)
    Bumdeal (459)
    STAY STRONG (458)
    ----------------------

    Honeybadger44 (425)
    chaz22 (399)
    khas_il (381)
    yisman (377)
    Hardcoar (375)
    EaglesPhan36 (374)
    MiddleMan (374)
    suicidekings (359)
    RealMadrid (353)
    PRIZE POOL IS 240 pts.
    1st Place: 140
    2nd Place: 70
    3rd Place: 30


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    -10 points in WTA group 3. Piece of shittt Kvitova.

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    Good stuff, EP

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    I'm aiming at trying to do a round by round update. So I think that means the next update will come on Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STAY STRONG View Post
    -10 points in WTA group 3. Piece of shittt Kvitova.
    Stay strong man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    POINTS THROUGH 2nd ROUND
    NUMBER IN ( ) IS HOW MUCH YOU EARNED FOR EACH GROUP AND THEN I TOTALED THEM UP NEXT TO THE ATP & WTA SO YOU CAN SEE HOW YOUR POINTS BREAK DOWN SO FAR. OVERALL LEADER BOARD AT THE BOTTOM.


    EaglesPhan36 (374)
    ATP (118)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (5)
    Group 2: Tsonga, Isner, Cilic (13)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Thompson (70)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Gasquet, Groth (30)
    BONUS PLAYER: Berdych

    WTA (256)
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys (53)
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Puig (93)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Mladenovic (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Wozniacki, Muguruza (80)
    BONUS PLAYER: Kerber

    Hardcoar (375)
    ATP (159)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del-Potro, Lu (48)
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Delbonis (30)
    Group 3: Berdych, Youzhny, Dolgopolov (28)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53)
    Bonus player: Del-Potro

    WTA (216)
    Group 1: S. Williams, Bouchard, Pironkova (53)
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, V. Williams (-10)
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Voegele (93)
    Group 4: Azarenka, A. Radwanska, Muguruza (80)
    Bonus player: Jankovic

    Cross (487)
    ATP (191)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (5)
    Group 2: Federer, Isner, Cilic (53)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov (53)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Querrey (80)
    BONUS PLAYER: Federer

    WTA (296)
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys (160)
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Puig (53)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Jankovic, Petkovic (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, McHale (53)
    BONUS PLAYER: Keys

    suicidekings (359)
    ATP (115)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (25)
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Stakhovsky (30)
    Group 3: Berdych, Chardy, Karlovic (30)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Mahut (30)
    BONUS PLAYER: DEL POTRO

    WTA (244)
    Group 1: S.Williams, Vinci, Pironkova (18)
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Riske (120)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Giorgi (53)
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanska, McHale (53)
    BONUS PLAYER: KERBER

    STAY STRONG (458)
    ATP (238)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (25)
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic (53)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Mayer (80)
    Group 4: Wawrinka, Djokovic, Istomin (80)
    BONUS: Del Potro

    WTA (220)
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys (80)
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, Wickmayer (-10)
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Sanders (70)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, Muguruza (80)
    BONUS: Jankovic

    MiddleMan (374)
    ATP (208)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (5)
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Stakhovsky (30)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Mayer (120)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53)
    BONUS: Berdych

    WTA (166)
    Group 1: Williams, Ivanovic, Keys (53)
    Group 2: Na Li, Kvitova, Wickmayer (-10)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Jankovic, Siniakova (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, Schmiedlova (93)
    BONUS: Radwanska

    RealMadrid (353)
    ATP (160)
    Group 1: NADAL, NISHIKORI, SMYCZEK (30)
    Group 2: TSONGA, FEDERER, ODESNIK (70)
    Group 3: BERDYCH, FERRER, RAMOS (30)
    Group 4: WAWRINKA, DJOKOVIC, GROTH (30)
    BONUS PLAYER: TSONGA

    WTA (193)
    Group 1: S.WILLIAMS, STOSUR, KEYS (80)
    Group 2: MAKAROVA, KVITOVA, KUDRYAVTSEVA (13)
    Group 3: CIBULKOVA, HALEP, BEGU (30)
    Group 4: A.RADWANSKA, AZARENKA, BABOS (70)
    BONUS PLAYER: RADWANSKA

    khas_il (381)
    ATP (86)
    Group 1: Del Potro, Hewitt, Nadal (25)
    Group 2: Tsonga, Cilic, Isner (13)
    Group 3: Berdych, Youzhny, Sousa (-5)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53)
    Bonus player: Del Potro

    WTA (295)
    Group 1: Williams, Bouchard, Keys (80)
    Group 2: Na, Lisicki, Riske (65)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Petkovic, Halep (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Stephens, Muguruza (120)
    Bonus player: Stephens

    Honeybadger44 (425)
    ATP (169)
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (25)
    Group 2: Murray, Verdasco, Cilic (38)
    Group 3: Ferrer, Berdych, Dolgopolov (53)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53)
    Bonus player: Del Potro

    WTA (256)
    Group 1: S. Williams, Bouchard, Beck (53)
    Group 2: Li Na, Kerber, Puig (53)
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Petkovic (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, Stephens, Muguruza (120)
    Bonus player: Stephens

    yisman (377)
    ATP (211)
    Group 1: Nadal, del Potro, Hewitt (25)
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic (53)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov (53)
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Querrey (80)
    BONUS PLAYER: del Potro

    WTA (166)
    Group 1: Serena, Ivanovic, Pironkova (53)
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, V.Williams (-10)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Petkovic (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanska, McHale (93)
    BONUS PLAYER: Radwanska

    Bumdeal (459)
    ATP (216)
    Group 1: Nadal, Raonic, Hewitt (30)
    Group 2: Isner, Tsonga, Cilic (13)
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov (93)
    Group 4: Wawrkinka, Djokovic, Querrey (80)
    bonus player: Berdych

    WTA (243)
    Group 1: S Williams, Vinci, L Davis (40)
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, V Williams (30)
    Group 3: Halep, Sharapova, Voegele (93)
    Group 4: Radwanska, Azarenka, Muguruza (80)
    bonus player: Halep

    chaz22 (399)
    ATP (206)
    Group 1: Nadal, Delpo, Gojowczyk (5)
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic (53)
    Group 3: Ferrer, Berdych, Mayer F.(80)
    Group 4: Wawrinka, Gulbis, Nieminen (68)
    Bonus Player: Wawa

    WTA (193)
    Group 1: Serena, Errani, Keys (40)
    Group 2: Kerber, Makarova, Zhang (30)
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Petkovic (30)
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanksa, McHale (93)
    Bonus player: Radwanska


    LEADERBOARD


    PRIZE POOL IS 240 pts.
    1st Place: 140
    2nd Place: 70
    3rd Place: 30

    Wrongly calculated for most of the players.

    For example

    EP36

    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Thompson - where do you get 70 points? Berdick 20 points for 2 rounds, and ferrer 20 points for 2 rounds, Thompson -10 for first round loss. math easy here 30 points.

    Cross

    Group 2: Federer, Isner, Cilic (53) - Fed 2 rounds 20p, Isner 1st round loss -20, Cilic for 2 round => 10 - 7 = 3 ....sum it up you get 13 not 53



    these are just couple of examples....

    Rule says >>

    GROUP PLAY SCORING
    FOR EACH WIN YOUR PLAYER(S) GET, YOU EARN POINTS. UNSEEDED PLAYERS WILL EARN DOUBLE THE POINTS FOR EACH WIN.

    FOR LOSSES, YOU LOSE POINTS BASED ON THE ROUND THEY GO OUT IN. SO THE IDEA OBVIOUSLY IS TO PICK PLAYERS YOU BELIEVE WILL ADVANCE FAR IN THEIR QUARTERS.SEEDED PLAYER WINS: 10 pts
    UNSEEDED PLAYER WINS: 20 pts


    maybe i do not understand but then please explain how did somebody got 90+ points from a single group, when it's possible to get max 80 points from trio.

    maybe recalculate?

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    Chaz22, I think you overlooked the fact that in some of those groups are bonus players, which earn 3x points...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honeybadger44 View Post
    Chaz22, I think you overlooked the fact that in some of those groups are bonus players, which earn 3x points...
    MAKING THE QUARTERFINALS: 50 pt bonus per player*YOUR BONUS PLAYER EARNS 3x the above amount. Bonus Players do not lose 3x the pts for losses.

    Well, if it so, then it's quite unclear as by reading this rule thought that bonus player gets you points only if he gets into 1/4.

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    I like the groups format.

    Wish I had seen it in time to play.

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    Sorry that part of the rules ran together without spaces for some reason, but I thought it was clear on the Bonus Players. There are three things listed above the statment on what your bonus player earns 3x the amount for. WINS & MAKING THE QUARTERFINALS. So for most, they had a seeded player as their bonus player, earning 30 points per win. I know at least one had an unseeded player for their bonus player, earning 60 points per win. Hope that helps explain it better.

    SEEDED PLAYER WINS: 10 pts
    UNSEEDED PLAYER WINS: 20 pts
    MAKING THE QUARTERFINALS: 50 pt bonus per player


    *YOUR BONUS PLAYER EARNS 3x the above amount. Bonus Players do not lose 3x the pts for losses.

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    I thought bonus players were exclusive to seeds/unseeds. I didn't at all understand it's better to have an unseeded BP, I must admit.

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    All the rules stated was that your BP had to be one of the players already in your group picks and could not be a top four seed.

    Assuming you picked an unseeded player who won several rounds, yes it would be beneficial - but the drawback obvious that they are in some cases likely to lose earlier. Strategic guess at the end of the day.

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    I understand all of that perfectly. I mean I never understood when reading your rules that an unseeded BP gives more pixelpoints per performance.

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    Should have the 3rd round update complete before action begins this evening.

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    Will be a little while before the update. Got busy this afternoon and got my ass handed to me in basketball.

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    *To note: The Wawrinka walkover does not carry any point value. It is not termed a win as we stick with the betting rules where at least one set must be complete for the match to count.

    *The number next to the parenthesis for you Groups is how much you earned in the 3rd round.


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    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (5) 10
    Group 2: Tsonga, Isner, Cilic (13) 10
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Thompson (70) 40
    Group 4: Djokovic, Gasquet, Groth (30) 0
    BONUS PLAYER: Berdych

    WTA
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys (53) 20
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Puig (93) 40
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Mladenovic (30) 20
    Group 4: Azarenka, Wozniacki, Muguruza (80) 20
    BONUS PLAYER: Kerber

    Hardcoar (535)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del-Potro, Lu (48) 10
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Delbonis (30) 20
    Group 3: Berdych, Youzhny, Dolgopolov (28) 10
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53) 10
    Bonus player: Del-Potro

    WTA (216)
    Group 1: S. Williams, Bouchard, Pironkova (53) 20
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, V. Williams (-10) 10
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Voegele (93) 40
    Group 4: Azarenka, A. Radwanska, Muguruza (80) 40
    Bonus player: Jankovic

    Cross (633)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (5) 10
    Group 2: Federer, Isner, Cilic (53) 30
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov (53) 20
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Querrey (80) 6
    BONUS PLAYER: Federer

    WTA
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys (160) 20
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Puig (53) 20
    Group 3: Sharapova, Jankovic, Petkovic (30) 20
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, McHale (53) 20
    BONUS PLAYER: Keys

    suicidekings (489)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (25) 10
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Stakhovsky (30) 20
    Group 3: Berdych, Chardy, Karlovic (30) 0
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Mahut (30) 10
    BONUS PLAYER: DEL POTRO

    WTA
    Group 1: S.Williams, Vinci, Pironkova (18) 10
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Riske (120) 40
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Giorgi (53) 20
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanska, McHale (53) 20
    BONUS PLAYER: KERBER

    STAY STRONG (644)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (25) 10
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic (53) 20
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Mayer (80) 40
    Group 4: Wawrinka, Djokovic, Istomin (80) 6
    BONUS: Del Potro

    WTA
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys (80) 20
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, Wickmayer (-10) 10
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Sanders (70) 40
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, Muguruza (80) 40
    BONUS: Jankovic

    MiddleMan (564)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (5) 10
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Stakhovsky (30) 20
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Mayer (120) 60
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53) 10
    BONUS: Berdych

    WTA
    Group 1: Williams, Ivanovic, Keys (53) 20
    Group 2: Na Li, Kvitova, Wickmayer (-10) 10
    Group 3: Sharapova, Jankovic, Siniakova (30) 20
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, Schmiedlova (93) 40
    BONUS: Radwanska

    RealMadrid (513)
    ATP
    Group 1: NADAL, NISHIKORI, SMYCZEK (30) 20
    Group 2: TSONGA, FEDERER, ODESNIK (70) 40
    Group 3: BERDYCH, FERRER, RAMOS (30) 20
    Group 4: WAWRINKA, DJOKOVIC, GROTH (30) 10
    BONUS PLAYER: TSONGA

    WTA
    Group 1: S.WILLIAMS, STOSUR, KEYS (80) 0
    Group 2: MAKAROVA, KVITOVA, KUDRYAVTSEVA (13) 10
    Group 3: CIBULKOVA, HALEP, BEGU (30) 20
    Group 4: A.RADWANSKA, AZARENKA, BABOS (70) 40
    BONUS PLAYER: RADWANSKA

    khas_il (527)
    ATP
    Group 1: Del Potro, Hewitt, Nadal (25) 10
    Group 2: Tsonga, Cilic, Isner (13) 10
    Group 3: Berdych, Youzhny, Sousa (-5) 10
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53) 10
    Bonus player: Del Potro

    WTA
    Group 1: Williams, Bouchard, Keys (80) 20
    Group 2: Na, Lisicki, Riske (65) 6
    Group 3: Sharapova, Petkovic, Halep (30) 20
    Group 4: Azarenka, Stephens, Muguruza (120) 60
    Bonus player: Stephens

    Honeybadger44 (595)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt (25) 10
    Group 2: Murray, Verdasco, Cilic (38) 10
    Group 3: Ferrer, Berdych, Dolgopolov (53) 20
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau (53) 10
    Bonus player: Del Potro

    WTA
    Group 1: S. Williams, Bouchard, Beck (53) 20
    Group 2: Li Na, Kerber, Puig (53) 20
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Petkovic (30) 20
    Group 4: Azarenka, Stephens, Muguruza (120) 60
    Bonus player: Stephens

    yisman (523)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, del Potro, Hewitt (25) 10
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic (53) 20
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov (53) 20
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Querrey (80) 6
    BONUS PLAYER: del Potro

    WTA
    Group 1: Serena, Ivanovic, Pironkova (53) 20
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, V.Williams (-10) 10
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Petkovic (30) 20
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanska, McHale (93) 40
    BONUS PLAYER: Radwanska

    Bumdeal (621)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Raonic, Hewitt (30) 0
    Group 2: Isner, Tsonga, Cilic (13) 10
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov (93) 40
    Group 4: Wawrkinka, Djokovic, Querrey (80) 6
    bonus player: Berdych

    WTA
    Group 1: S Williams, Vinci, L Davis (40) 6
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, V Williams (30) 20
    Group 3: Halep, Sharapova, Voegele (93) 40
    Group 4: Radwanska, Azarenka, Muguruza (80) 40
    bonus player: Halep

    chaz22 (559)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Delpo, Gojowczyk (5) 10
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic (53) 20
    Group 3: Ferrer, Berdych, Mayer F.(80) 40
    Group 4: Wawrinka, Gulbis, Nieminen (68) 0
    Bonus Player: Wawa

    WTA
    Group 1: Serena, Errani, Keys (40) 10
    Group 2: Kerber, Makarova, Zhang (30) 20
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Petkovic (30) 20
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanksa, McHale (93) 40
    Bonus player: Radwanska

    LEADERBOARD
    STAY STRONG (644)
    Cross (633)

    Bumdeal (621)

    ----------------------
    Honeybadger44 (595)
    MiddleMan (564)
    chaz22 (559)
    Hardcoar (535)
    EaglesPhan36 (534)
    khas_il (527)
    yisman (523)
    RealMadrid (513)
    suicidekings (489)


    PRIZE POOL IS 240 pts.
    1st Place: 140
    2nd Place: 70
    3rd Place: 30

  24. #59
    EaglesPhan36
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    I thought I added this into the scoring to begin, but did not ... so posting it here now because it only makes sense with the way the contest was set up for this Group Play part to see it through to the semifinals. We already had set:

    MAKING THE QUARTERFINALS: 50 pt bonus per player

    Adding ...

    MAKING THE SEMIFINALS: 100 pt bonus per player

    And again, both of these are eligible or the 3x reward if it's your bonus player.

  25. #60
    EaglesPhan36
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    *Remember for this latest scoring update, it includes the 50 pt bonus per player from your group that made the Quarterfinals along with the 3x bonus if it was your bonus player.

    *Also in the leaderboard, if there is a number next to your score - that is how many Betpoints I show that you have paid towards your Entry Fee. Remember, 20 are due by the end of the tournament to be eligible for the prize pool.


    STANDING THROUGH 4th ROUND

    EaglesPhan36 (1,112)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt 60
    Group 2: Tsonga, Isner, Cilic -5
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Thompson 240
    Group 4: Djokovic, Gasquet, Groth 60
    BONUS PLAYER: Berdych

    WTA
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys 55
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Puig 55
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Mladenovic 55
    Group 4: Azarenka, Wozniacki, Muguruza 58
    BONUS PLAYER: Kerber

    Hardcoar (1,055)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del-Potro, Lu 60
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Delbonis 55
    Group 3: Berdych, Youzhny, Dolgopolov 60
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau 120
    Bonus player: Del-Potro

    WTA
    Group 1: S. Williams, Bouchard, Pironkova 55
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, V. Williams 60
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Voegele -10
    Group 4: Azarenka, A. Radwanska, Muguruza 120
    Bonus player: Jankovic

    Cross (1,333)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt 60
    Group 2: Federer, Isner, Cilic 180
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov 120
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Querrey 120
    BONUS PLAYER: Federer

    WTA
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys 55
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Puig 55
    Group 3: Sharapova, Jankovic, Petkovic -10
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, McHale 120
    BONUS PLAYER: Keys

    suicidekings (1,009)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt 60
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Stakhovsky 55
    Group 3: Berdych, Chardy, Karlovic 60
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Mahut 120
    BONUS PLAYER: DEL POTRO

    WTA
    Group 1: S.Williams, Vinci, Pironkova -5
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, Riske 55
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Giorgi 55
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanska, McHale 120
    BONUS PLAYER: KERBER

    STAY STRONG (1,287)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt 60
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic 120
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Mayer 120
    Group 4: Wawrinka, Djokovic, Istomin 120
    BONUS: Del Potro

    WTA
    Group 1: Serena, Bouchard, Keys 55
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, Wickmayer 60
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Sanders -10
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, Muguruza 118
    BONUS: Jankovic

    MiddleMan (1,384)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt 60
    Group 2: Murray, Tsonga, Stakhovsky 55
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Mayer 240
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau 120
    BONUS: Berdych

    WTA
    Group 1: Williams, Ivanovic, Keys 55
    Group 2: Na Li, Kvitova, Wickmayer 60
    Group 3: Sharapova, Jankovic, Siniakova -10
    Group 4: Azarenka, Radwanska, Schmiedlova 240
    BONUS: Radwanska

    RealMadrid (1,213)
    ATP
    Group 1: NADAL, NISHIKORI, SMYCZEK 55
    Group 2: TSONGA, FEDERER, ODESNIK 55
    Group 3: BERDYCH, FERRER, RAMOS 120
    Group 4: WAWRINKA, DJOKOVIC, GROTH 120
    BONUS PLAYER: TSONGA

    WTA
    Group 1: S.WILLIAMS, STOSUR, KEYS -5
    Group 2: MAKAROVA, KVITOVA, KUDRYAVTSEVA -5
    Group 3: CIBULKOVA, HALEP, BEGU 120
    Group 4: A.RADWANSKA, AZARENKA, BABOS 240
    BONUS PLAYER: RADWANSKA

    khas_il (985)
    ATP
    Group 1: Del Potro, Hewitt, Nadal 60
    Group 2: Tsonga, Cilic, Isner -5
    Group 3: Berdych, Youzhny, Sousa 60
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau 120
    Bonus player: Del Potro

    WTA
    Group 1: Williams, Bouchard, Keys 55
    Group 2: Na, Lisicki, Riske 60
    Group 3: Sharapova, Petkovic, Halep 55
    Group 4: Azarenka, Stephens, Muguruza 53
    Bonus player: Stephens

    Honeybadger44 (1,108)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Del Potro, Hewitt 60
    Group 2: Murray, Verdasco, Cilic 60
    Group 3: Ferrer, Berdych, Dolgopolov 120
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Benneteau 120
    Bonus player: Del Potro

    WTA
    Group 1: S. Williams, Bouchard, Beck 55
    Group 2: Li Na, Kerber, Puig 55
    Group 3: Jankovic, Sharapova, Petkovic -10
    Group 4: Azarenka, Stephens, Muguruza 53
    Bonus player: Stephens

    yisman (1,353)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, del Potro, Hewitt 60
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic 120
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov 120
    Group 4: Djokovic, Wawrinka, Querrey 120
    BONUS PLAYER: del Potro

    WTA
    Group 1: Serena, Ivanovic, Pironkova 55
    Group 2: Li, Kvitova, V.Williams 60
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Petkovic 55
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanska, McHale 240
    BONUS PLAYER: Radwanska

    Bumdeal (1,379)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Raonic, Hewitt 60
    Group 2: Isner, Tsonga, Cilic -5
    Group 3: Berdych, Ferrer, Dolgopolov 240
    Group 4: Wawrkinka, Djokovic, Querrey 120
    bonus player: Berdych

    WTA
    Group 1: S Williams, Vinci, L Davis -5
    Group 2: Li, Kerber, V Williams 55
    Group 3: Halep, Sharapova, Voegele175
    Group 4: Radwanska, Azarenka, Muguruza 118
    bonus player: Halep

    chaz22 (1,317)
    ATP
    Group 1: Nadal, Delpo, Gojowczyk 60
    Group 2: Murray, Federer, Cilic 120
    Group 3: Ferrer, Berdych, Mayer F 118
    Group 4: Wawrinka, Gulbis, Nieminen 180
    Bonus Player: Wawa

    WTA
    Group 1: Serena, Errani, Keys -5
    Group 2: Kerber, Makarova, Zhang -10
    Group 3: Sharapova, Halep, Petkovic 55
    Group 4: Azarenka, A.Radwanksa, McHale 240
    Bonus player: Radwanska

    LEADERBOARD
    MiddleMan (1,384) 12
    Bumdeal (1,379) PAID
    yisman (1,353) PAID

    ----------------------
    Cross (1,333) PAID
    chaz22 (1,317) PAID
    STAY STRONG (1,287) PAID
    RealMadrid (1,213) PAID
    EaglesPhan36 (1,112) PAID
    Honeybadger44 (1,108) PAID
    Hardcoar (1,055) 14
    suicidekings (1,009) PAID
    khas_il (985) 14



  26. #61
    Hardcoar
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    This is so pathetic.

  27. #62
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    I have predicted all the ATP possible matches.


    Group 1: NADAL, NISHIKORI - Round 4
    Group 2: TSONGA, FEDERER - Round 4
    Group 3: BERDYCH, FERRER - QF
    Group 4: WAWRINKA, DJOKOVIC - QF

  28. #63
    MiddleMan
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    Well that was a handy win by Radwanska

  29. #64
    Chaz22
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    What about the lines for semis?

  30. #65
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    Sorry, getting them up in a moment.

  31. #66
    EaglesPhan36
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    SEMIFINAL OFFICIAL LINES via PINNACLE SPORTS
    *Lines are games spreads for the individual players and total games played for the other choice. No set betting.

    Bouchard +5
    Li -5

    Bouchard/Li Over 20.5
    Bouchard/Li Under 20.5
    ------------------------
    Radwanska -3.5
    Cibulkova +3.5

    Radwanska-Cibulkova Over 21.5
    Radwanska-Cibulkova Under 21.5


    Wawrinka -1.5
    Berdych +1.5

    Wawrinka-Berdych Over 42
    Wawrinka-Berdych Under 42
    --------------------
    Nadal -5
    Federer +5

    Nadal-Federer Over 41.5
    Nadal-Federer Under 41.5

    FOR EACH SEMIFINAL MATCH & EACH CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH, YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO PLAY EITHER A TOTAL OR GAMES HANDICAP. FAILURE TO POST A PLAY FOR ANY OF THOSE MATCHES WILL RESULT IN A POINT PENALTY TO KEEP THE WHOLE IDEA OF FAIR PLAY INTACT SO THAT AN ENTRANT WHO MAY BE IN THE LEAD CANNOT SIMPLY SKIP PICKS TO PRESERVE THEIR LEAD, ETC.

    THE POSTED LINES WILL COME VIA PINNACLE SPORTS AND WILL BE POSTED BY ME IN THE DESIGNATED CONTEST THREAD. ONLY THAT LINE THAT IS POSTED CAN BE USED FOR SELECTIONS. ANY OTHER LINE THAT IS POSTED BY AN ENTRANT WILL BE VOIDED AND THE POINT PENALTY WILL BE ASSESSED FOR A MISSED PICK.
    POINT PENALTIES ASSESED FOR FAILING TO MAKE THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF PICKS IN THE LAST TWO ROUNDS IS -100 pts PER MISSED PICK.

    FAILURE TO PICK FOR AN ENTIRE ROUND - EITHER THE SEMIS OR FINALS WILL RESULT IN AN ADDITIONAL -100 pt PENALTY.

    **THIS IS BEING DONE AGAIN TO REQUIRE EVERYONE WHO IS COMPETING TO COMPETE AND NOT SIT OUT A PORTION TO TRY AND SIT ON A LEAD. FAIR?

  32. #67
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    Sorry this was kinda mushed in with the deal above it in the Rules about PM-ing me the Group Play picks, but this round please follow below. I realize picks are open for all to see. It's your time to strategize. That's why I wanted these picks public.

    **ALL PICKS FOR THE SEMIS & FINALS MUST BE POSTED IN THIS THREAD ONLY BEFORE THE FIRST BALL OF THAT MATCH IS PLAYED. ANY PLAY POSTED PAST THE STARTING TIME WILL BE VOID AND A POINTS PENALTY WILL BE ASSESSED.



  33. #68
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    Bouchard/Li Over 20.5


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    Radwanska -3.5


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    Berdych +1.5




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    Federer +5

  34. #69
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    So how do you determine the lines then?

  35. #70
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    They are from Pinnacle as stated in the rules.

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