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    monfils +215

    he is playing out of his mind. i will take him
    he is sliding around and getting to every ball, looks fast as a cat out there


    nadal is slightly different than mayer, however.

    what do you guys think? i already bet it.
    monfils beat him here at Doha in 2012 pretty convincingly, but usually nadal beats him
    he is not playing like a slacker/clown, i think he is serious this time

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    I am liking Nadal 2-1. Monfils might be able to steal a set: he can do it pretty much against anybody when he is in form, but Nadal should prevail. GL face.

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    yea, nadal is probably on another level. but if there was ever a time to take monfils against him this is it, at Doha when he is fully healthy
    should be a good match

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    And Nadal 2-1 it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugalgambler View Post
    And Nadal 2-1 it was.
    yea you nailed it. asked for input and got it. should have listened
    nice play

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    Hardly a hard prediction.

    Monfils will come close but Nadal has that little bit extra mental edge. Bit obvious the most likely result was always going to be Nadal with Monfils snatching a set. Duh.

    Did he even give one concise reason? Nooooooooo. lol!

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    yea well i have seen him post insights and he is right a lot


    also you took monfils moneyline so there's that

    just be cool man, you seem like a smart guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by face View Post
    yea well i have seen him post insights and he is right a lot


    also you took monfils moneyline so there's that

    just be cool man, you seem like a smart guy
    So there's what?

    I took monfils ML and I took Monfils set handicap, it's called playing the probabilities. The set handiacp was with 7 units and the ML was with 3. Then I also caught Monfils set 2 @4.00 with 2 units. So there was barely anything lost from the money line bet.

    Point is irrelevant saying I took ML, and? lol

    Thanks, just saying any tom, dick or harry would say Nadal 2-1... it's a basic common sense educated guess....

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    Just felt you were going a little overboard. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClutchOnandWin View Post
    So there's what?

    I took monfils ML and I took Monfils set handicap, it's called playing the probabilities. The set handiacp was with 7 units and the ML was with 3. Then I also caught Monfils set 2 @4.00 with 2 units. So there was barely anything lost from the money line bet.

    Point is irrelevant saying I took ML, and? lol

    Thanks, just saying any tom, dick or harry would say Nadal 2-1... it's a basic common sense educated guess....
    i don't want to, but i guess you're going to be here a lot so i will explain.
    i made the thread wanting to talk about it. he posted in it and he was right. when i was watching the match i was thinking 'of course', and that his play made way more sense
    sure, i've made that play a lot too.
    yes, i understand that you were making a value play, me too, but it's a little easy to say duh it was an obvious play when you didn't make it and in fact bet a different bet entirely

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    Quote Originally Posted by face View Post
    i don't want to, but i guess you're going to be here a lot so i will explain.
    i made the thread wanting to talk about it. he posted in it and he was right. when i was watching the match i was thinking 'of course', and that his play made way more sense
    sure, i've made that play a lot too.
    yes, i understand that you were making a value play, me too, but it's a little easy to say duh it was an obvious play when you didn't make it and in fact bet a different bet entirely
    I didn't make it because I didn't feel it worthwhile to stake that much on 2-1 Nadal. As I could kill many sorts of scorelines at a good price by just taking Monfils to get a set. Just saying any person that barely watches tennis or is involved in it hearing the names monfils and nadal in final on a hardcourt (Outside of claycourts) would say make a guess of 2-1 Nadal.

    Anyway. Doesn't matter, just think it was thinking like everybody else really and you were bigging it up hard!!! lol

    He also posted no reason nothing. Obvious to anyone he thought. 2 big name player's, 1 slightly bigger name than the other... 2-1 to the slightly bigger name.... you know it, I know it, now let's drop it.

    Oh yeah and if you were thinking it, I do not like him, that's right, correct.

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    yea well he bumped it so i said nice hit
    anyway i hated my plays on the match (handicap and moneyline) instantly, i forgot monfils sometimes is erratic and takes sets off to get going (first set) and that nadal would be pissed and highly motivated like matt said (of course, it's the final, and he lost to him there)
    anyway, on to better stuff, no problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClutchOnandWin View Post
    Hardly a hard prediction.

    Monfils will come close but Nadal has that little bit extra mental edge. Bit obvious the most likely result was always going to be Nadal with Monfils snatching a set. Duh.

    Did he even give one concise reason? Nooooooooo. lol!
    Last time I checked 4.33>2.5... Just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by face View Post
    yea well i have seen him post insights and he is right a lot


    also you took monfils moneyline so there's that

    just be cool man, you seem like a smart guy
    The key word here is seem. It is almost always easy to find convincing arguments for both sides of every bet. But usually it is very difficult to pick the winner: last year only Matt was hitting it at a high clip with Hardcoar also being able to produce a decent profit. I am not nearly as good.

    Coming back to this douchebag, clutchandlose, he generates random long posts with little value. I do not mind that at all but he also behaves like his sh.t does not smell. Anyway, like you said on to the next one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frugalgambler View Post
    The key word here is seem. It is almost always easy to find convincing arguments for both sides of every bet. But usually it is very difficult to pick the winner: last year only Matt was hitting it a high clip with Hardcoar also being able to produce a decent profit. I am not nearly as good.

    Coming back to this douchebag, clutchandlose, he generates random long posts with little value. I do not mind that at all but he also behaves like his sh.t does not smell. Anyway, like you said on to the next one.
    Little value? Little value? Keep saying that bullshit, may be you think if you say it enough it will carry some weight! Fact of the matter is you've been jealous of my presence on here ever since I came, you can't handle that you know absolute jack all about this sport and can't take the fact people actually enjoy reading my posts.

    Several people have complimented my posts, keep trying to pain the picture I type up long-winded posts with little substance/meaning/value, because that's all you've got. People aren't swayed by what you say.

    Quotes "That's really interesting" - "Amazing insight" - "I really like your writeups" "Thanks for the insight" .... amongst a few, just off my head right now.

    How can somany people find my posts "value-able", yet you claim that they carry little value? May be because you aren't a very inquisitive person? Hmm? The little dude sitting on the side, observing, waiting to pounce with "let me police this situation, because I have no other significance in this world"..!

    I have a huge track record of good profit over the past few years of betting on tennis, so that's why I can't smell my shit before I flush my toilet. You need to just pipe down, because I will take you down.

    PS: Oh and we'll see how good my record stands at come a few months from now. I've made it my mission to post my every pick, so you can have yourself looking like a muppet of all sorts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frugalgambler View Post
    The key word here is seem. It is almost always easy to find convincing arguments for both sides of every bet. But usually it is very difficult to pick the winner: last year only Matt was hitting it at a high clip with Hardcoar also being able to produce a decent profit. I am not nearly as good.

    Coming back to this douchebag, clutchandlose, he generates random long posts with little value. I do not mind that at all but he also behaves like his sh.t does not smell. Anyway, like you said on to the next one.
    This.

    Clutch guy thinks he's a fuking know it all. He needs to shut his c0ck sucker

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    I'm not entering this discussion, but how can you say it was an easy prediction when market gives it about 1/4 shot? Nadal ML or Nadal 2-0 would have been the easier predictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClutchOnandWin View Post
    Little value? Little value? Keep saying that bullshit, may be you think if you say it enough it will carry some weight! Fact of the matter is you've been jealous of my presence on here ever since I came, you can't handle that you know absolute jack all about this sport and can't take the fact people actually enjoy reading my posts.

    Several people have complimented my posts, keep trying to pain the picture I type up long-winded posts with little substance/meaning/value, because that's all you've got.

    Quotes "That's really interesting" - "Amazing insight" - "I really like your writeups" "Thanks for the insight" .... amongst a few, just off my head right now.

    How can somany people find my posts "value-able", yet you claim that they carry little value? May be because you aren't a very inquisitive person? Hmm? The little dude sitting on the side, observing, waiting to pounce with "let me police this situation, because I have no other significance in this world" behaviour..!

    I have a huge track record of good profit over the past few years of betting on tennis, so that's why I can't smell my shit before I flush my toilet. You need to just pipe down, because I will take you down.

    PS: Oh and we'll see how good my record stands at come a few months from now. I've made it my mission to post my every pick, so you can have yourself looking like a muppet of all sorts.
    LOL. Another long post from this douchebag. I only read the first and last paragraph. So far you are generating random threads and you are not keeping a straight record last time I checked. Once you prove that you keep producing winners, I will be happy to apologize. But right now it looks like you are losing money, quite a bit actually. And you are not keeping a record, usually a sign of a douchebag toot wannabe. As for your previous winning record, it exists only in your imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcoar View Post
    Last time I checked 4.33>2.5... Just sayin'.
    So? lol

    You think he staked anything big on 2-1? Would he dare? No. Let him post his guesses. He's as insignificant to this forum as he is this world. Poor sod.

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    So it wasn't an easy prediction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugalgambler View Post
    LOL. Another long post from this douchebag. I only read the first and last paragraph. So far you are generating random threads and you are not keeping a straight record last time I checked. Once you prove that you keep producing winners, I will be happy to apologize. But right now it looks like you are losing money, quite a bit actually. And you are not keeping a record, usually a sign of a douchebag toot wannabe. As for your previous winning record, it exists only in your imagination.
    You seem to really have a problem with more than one 4 line paragraph? Do you ever like to read? Like properly? Or is it just picture books and pornographic magazines?

    Do you see that? Last time you checked. You're constantly in my thread, constantly watching my back and my every post. It showed by your random burst of laughter in my thread btw. Yeah that's right, it's the beginning of the season, you aren't that much of a narrow minded dipshit to think a few day's batch of results carry any meaning, do you?

    Again, it's just your type of try hard at school person's persona to pull me up on not "CONSTANTLY" updating my record after every pick. Is that all you've got??????? LIterally, you yourself know nobody updates their record between every pick. Not even your luver boy crush, Matt. You give me this vibe of the guy at school that was always trying to be the one that spoke for everybody, but in reality stood for no one and nothing! Shame. I swear if I ever saw your face in real life, I would do a better job than any plastic surgeon and rearrange it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcoar View Post
    So it wasn't an easy prediction.
    Yes it was. Go to your train station, get on any carraige and ask a random dude that barely watches any tennis to give you a prediction on that match and I'm sure they'd all say 2-1. This guy will only make predictions on commercial matches, where the player's are given maximum exposure. All I've seen him do is criticise others, he's not said one thing of any interest, at all. Infact, he is not even a generic poster, he's like a bot, until he has to try and act the big man. Mr Self Righteous, it makes me feel better, twerp.

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    Anyway, done with this topic. Catch you around face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClutchOnandWin View Post
    Yes it was. Go to your train station, get on any carraige and ask a random dude that barely watches any tennis to give you a prediction on that match and I'm sure they'd all say 2-1. This guy will only make predictions on commercial matches, where the player's are given maximum exposure. All I've seen him do is criticise others, he's not said one thing of any interest, at all. Infact, he is not even a generic poster, he's like a bot, until he has to try and act the big man. Mr Self Righteous, it makes me feel better, twerp.
    By others, you mean you ? Is this the royal we, mr. douchebag ?

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