[yisman]

Did someone say major?

That means it's big chalk first round parlay time.

	Pending	12 Team Parlay
				Pending	5/26/13 5:05am ATP Tennis 261 Milos Raonic -1135* vs Xavier Malisse
				Pending	5/26/13 5:05am ATP Tennis 274 Kevin Anderson -1650* vs Illya Marchenko
				Pending	5/26/13 8:00am ATP Tennis 290 David Ferrer -4000* vs Marinko Matosevic
				Pending	5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 101 Novak Djokovic -5500* vs David Goffin
				Pending	5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 165 Rafael Nadal -13500* vs Daniel Brands
				Pending	5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 197 Stanislas Wawrinka -1350* vs Thiemo De Bakker
				Pending	5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 226 Richard Gasquet -1250* vs Sergiy Stakhovsky
				Pending	5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 233 Ernests Gulbis -1250* vs Rogerio Dutra Silva
				Pending	5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 242 Tommy Robredo -1500* vs Jurgen Zopp
				Pending	5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 258 Nicolas Almagro -1600* vs Andreas Haider-Maurer
				Pending	5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 322 Marin Cilic -1150* vs Philipp Petzschner
				Pending	5/26/13 6:30am WTA Tennis 501 Serena Williams -5900* vs Anna Tatishvili

Comes out to roughly -110. I meant to confine it to Sunday's matches, but I got a bit carried away.

[Hawke]

Malaise can beat raonic

[adila1401]

This is usually a recipe for disaster..Gl man but I would rather just try an underdog instead of sweating all these heavy favs..gl to u though, hope u pull through!

[baconbets]

raonic
anderson
bautista agut
sousa

about -145

[yisman]

raonic
anderson
bautista agut
sousa

about -145

will try that as well

I don't normally do big chalk parlays, but it's a tennis major tradition.

[shabang]

Accepted Date	Risk	To Win		Status	Wager
5/25/13 11:19pm	$400.00	$412.86			Pending	7 Team Parlay
					Pending	5/26/13 5:05am ATP Tennis 261 Milos Raonic -1135* vs Xavier Malisse
					Pending	5/26/13 5:05am ATP Tennis 274 Kevin Anderson -1650* vs Illya Marchenko
					Pending	5/26/13 8:00am ATP Tennis 290 David Ferrer -4000* vs Marinko Matosevic
					Pending	5/26/13 8:00am ATP Tennis 306 Jeremy Chardy -1500* vs Benjamin Becker
					Pending	5/26/13 8:00am ATP Tennis 354 Roger Federer -2200* vs Pablo Carreno-Busta
					Win	5/25/13 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Junior Dos Santos -470* vs Mark Hunt
					Win	5/25/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1009 Velasquez wins inside distance -370* vs Not Velasquez inside distance

[secret007]

165 Rafael Nadal -13500* vs Daniel Brands

does this bet affect your payout at all? this is not even 1.01

[Hardcoar]

will try that as well

I don't normally do big chalk parlays, but it's a tennis major tradition.

I suppose if there were ever a time to shizzle favorites-@-shitty-odds parlays, it would be Grand Slam time.

On second though there is no such time though. It's still FKing retarded as ever...

That said, I do hope your parlay wins, and at the very least, it's not unlikely to!

[baconbets]

the first round is definitely the most dangerous time to make big parlays on favorites, as it can be difficult to anticipate what kind of form the wild cards and qualifiers are in.

in general though, it isnt just because the stakes are higher in a grand slam, but because of the 5 set match that the better player tends to win in a grand slam. does anyone think federer would lose to kei nishikori in a 5 set match? this is also why you tend to get the best value on the men's side in a grand slam, since 2 set sprint upsets are still possible on the ladies' side in a grand slam.

[yisman]

I suppose if there were ever a time to shizzle favorites-@-shitty-odds parlays, it would be Grand Slam time.

On second though there is no such time though. It's still FKing retarded as ever...

No, it's not. I win most of these, and they come to around even money.

[Hardcoar]

Blindly shoving every favorite you can find at the lowest odds you can find in a huge parlay is not going to be a long term winning strategy. If you've enjoyed long term success with this strategy I am impressed though...

[yisman]

Blindly shoving every favorite you can find at the lowest odds you can find in a huge parlay is not going to be a long term winning strategy. If you've enjoyed long term success with this strategy I am impressed though...

A)It's not blindly.
B)I didn't pick every favorite.
C)I have enjoyed long term success. Been doing this for several years.

[baconbets]

favorites are a good value in a 5 set match. there were a few people picking l mayer over seppi in another thread. they were right, mayer was "a good value" at +380 because he took seppi to 6-4 in the 5th set. but you dont get partial credit for finding value. you get full credit for winning the bet and no credit for losing it.

[yisman]

that's what gets very frustrating about picking underdogs in majors.

Many times I have had a big underdog (not +1000 underdogs, big as in +200 to +400 range) force a fifth set and lose in the end. It's not that uncommon, really.

[yisman]

raonic
anderson
bautista agut
sousa

about -145

Kudos, cash here

Win	4 Team Parlay
					Win	5/26/13 5:05am ATP Tennis 261 Milos Raonic -1135* vs Xavier Malisse
					Win	5/26/13 5:05am ATP Tennis 274 Kevin Anderson -1650* vs Illya Marchenko
					Win	5/26/13 5:05am ATP Tennis 281 Joao Sousa -400* vs Go Soeda
					Win	5/26/13 6:30am ATP Tennis 301 Roberto Bautista-Agut -420* vs Gilles Muller

[Hardcoar]

that's what gets very frustrating about picking underdogs in majors.

Many times I have had a big underdog (not +1000 underdogs, big as in +200 to +400 range) force a fifth set and lose in the end. It's not that uncommon, really.

Which is why Jerzy invented 1:st set betting.

[baconbets]

for monday:

li na
torro flor
klizan
kuznetsov

about +135

[yisman]

for monday:

li na
torro flor
klizan
kuznetsov

about +135

thanks, will try that one. Pays almost 2/1 for me, male Kuznetsov, right? One match is on Tuesday.

here's one I just put together

1. 5/27/2013 6:30 AM ATP Tennis 165 Rafael Nadal* -15000 vs Daniel Brands
2. 5/27/2013 9:30 AM ATP Tennis 226 Richard Gasquet* -1900 vs Sergiy Stakhovsky
3. 5/27/2013 8:00 AM ATP Tennis 233 Ernests Gulbis* -1300 vs Rogerio Dutra Silva
4. 5/27/2013 5:00 AM ATP Tennis 242 Tommy Robredo* -2100 vs Jurgen Zopp
5. 5/27/2013 6:30 AM ATP Tennis 258 Nicolas Almagro* -2100 vs Andreas Haider-Maurer
6. 5/27/2013 6:30 AM ATP Tennis 293 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga* -1400 vs Aljaz Bedene
7. 5/27/2013 7:00 AM ATP Tennis 322 Marin Cilic* -1400 vs Philipp Petzschner
8. 5/27/2013 5:00 AM WTA Tennis 530 Roberta Vinci* -1000 vs Stephanie Foretz-Gacon
9. 5/27/2013 5:00 AM WTA Tennis 565 Agnieszka Radwanska* -1000 vs Shahar Peer
10. 5/27/2013 9:30 AM WTA Tennis 754 Maria Sharapova* -3000 vs Su-Wei Hsieh

[Hardcoar]

"Both" Kuznetsovs are male. Their names both start with an A (Alex and Andrey). The woman's name's Kuznetsova.

It's confusing, I know...

[yisman]

"Both" Kuznetsovs are male. Their names both start with an A (Alex and Andrey). The woman's name's Kuznetsova.

It's confusing, I know...

No, it's the same name. Kuznetsov and Kuznetsova.

The a is just added in Russian to indicate a female. So I was making sure he didn't leave off the A.

[jimmy007oc]

Pending

5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 197 Stanislas Wawrinka -1350* vs Thiemo De Bakker

Man, this game will play on Tuesday sucks

[Hardcoar]

...

Alex and Andrey Kuznetsov are both male. Go check their reproductive organs out.

Svetlana Kuznetsova is female, I believe.

Are you aware of the trio's existance? As in, all three of them?

[ohumad]

...



Svetlana Kuznetsova is female, I believe.

For reference:

[yisman]

...

Alex and Andrey Kuznetsov are both male. Go check their reproductive organs out.

Svetlana Kuznetsova is female, I believe.

Are you aware of the trio's existance [sic]? As in, all three of them?

Yes, I am well aware. And you obviously didn't comprehend my post.

Kuznetsov and Kuznetsova is the same name. In Russian, an A is added to the end to indicate a female.

So I was making sure he was referring to Kuznetsov and not Kuznetsova, because they both had matches scheduled for today.

[Hardcoar]

Uh huh.

And there are still two Kuznetsovs in this tournament.

Alex and Andrey.

[yisman]

one is not playing today, so no risk of confusion

[yisman]

the 10 teamer was an easy winner. None of the players even were pushed that much. The 12 teamer has Djokovic and Wawrinka still remaining.

Win	10 Team Parlay
					Win	5/27/13 6:30am ATP Tennis 165 Rafael Nadal -15000* vs Daniel Brands
					Win	5/27/13 9:30am ATP Tennis 226 Richard Gasquet -1900* vs Sergiy Stakhovsky
					Win	5/27/13 8:00am ATP Tennis 233 Ernests Gulbis -1300* vs Rogerio Dutra Silva
					Win	5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 242 Tommy Robredo -2100* vs Jurgen Zopp
					Win	5/27/13 6:30am ATP Tennis 258 Nicolas Almagro -2100* vs Andreas Haider-Maurer
					Win	5/27/13 6:30am ATP Tennis 293 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga -1400* vs Aljaz Bedene
					Win	5/27/13 7:00am ATP Tennis 322 Marin Cilic -1400* vs Philipp Petzschner
					Win	5/27/13 5:00am WTA Tennis 530 Roberta Vinci -1000* vs Stephanie Foretz-Gacon
					Win	5/27/13 5:00am WTA Tennis 565 Agnieszka Radwanska -1000* vs Shahar Peer
					Win	5/27/13 9:30am WTA Tennis 754 Maria Sharapova -3000* vs Su-Wei Hsieh

[Tsonga]

nice work - good picks

[drfunkmaster]

penetrating monaco so far.

$0.00	Loss	10 Team Parlay
					Win	5/27/13 9:30am ATP Tennis 146 John Isner +105* vs Carlos Berlocq
					Win	5/27/13 8:00am ATP Tennis 174 Lukas Rosol -255* vs Pere Riba
					Win	5/27/13 8:00am ATP Tennis 178 Fabio Fognini -590* vs Andreas Beck
					Win	5/27/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 194 Kei Nishikori -1250* vs Jesse Levine
					Win	5/27/13 8:00am ATP Tennis 206 Robin Haase -290* vs Kenny De Schepper
					Pending	5/27/13 9:30am ATP Tennis 210 Jerzy Janowicz -150* vs Albert Ramos
					Win	5/27/13 6:30am ATP Tennis 293 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga -1400* vs Aljaz Bedene
					Loss	5/27/13 8:00am ATP Tennis 309 Juan Monaco -555* vs Daniel Gimeno-Traver
					Pending	5/28/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 130 Philipp Kohlschreiber -440* vs Jiri Vesely
					Win	5/27/13 5:00am WTA Tennis 629 Na Li -500* vs Anabel Medina Garrigues

[baconbets]

not recommended parlay for tomorrow:

cibulkova
kanepi
jankovic
dolgopolov
f mayer
garcia lopez

about +340

not for the faint of heart.

[tevari]

not recommended parlay for tomorrow:

cibulkova
kanepi
jankovic
dolgopolov
f mayer
garcia lopez

about +340

not for the faint of heart.

as you've hinted to, it wouldn't surprise me if any of those players lost tomorrow

[baconbets]

its so bad that it has to work.

[drfunkmaster]

Pending	7 Team Parlay
				Pending	5/28/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 118 Dmitry Tursunov +360* vs Alexandr Dolgopolov
				Pending	5/28/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 121 Bernard Tomic +220* vs Victor Hanescu
				Pending	5/28/13 6:30am ATP Tennis 130 Philipp Kohlschreiber -420* vs Jiri Vesely
				Pending	5/28/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 133 Tommy Haas -500* vs Guillaume Rufin
				Pending	5/28/13 5:00am ATP Tennis 137 Jack Sock +255* vs Guillermo Garcia-Lopez
				Pending	5/28/13 8:00am ATP Tennis 186 Maxime Teixeira +225* vs Lukasz Kubot
				Pending	5/28/13 5:00am WTA Tennis 661 Marion Bartoli -170* vs Olga Govortsova

[yisman]

now that would be a nice jackpot

I'm definitely betting Tomic.

[yisman]

tailed you and bacon, but splitting up the parlays depending on where I can get the best price