1. 03-14-13 10:34 PM #36
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    The way Federer is playing, Nadal would beat him on concrete, grass, sand, water, hard, carpet, anything.
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    I have a very unscientific theory on those courts. Larry Ellison and Rafa are supposedly good friends. I know that he openly roots for Rafa in matches. His money is behind the redesign of this whole facility. I think that he may have had a friend in mind when he had these courts resurfaced.
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  3. 03-14-13 10:39 PM #38
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    This is the company that does the surfacing for a lot of courts, including Indian Wells. They've used the same surface for something like 15 years. Have been some subtle changes over the past few years that have made it a little slower for sure.

    http://www.plexipave.com/
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  4. 03-14-13 10:52 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharp Snake View Post
    The way Federer is playing, Nadal would beat him on concrete, grass, sand, water, hard, carpet, anything.
    They've done it all already. Nadal won on water of course because it's like a slower version of clay


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  5. 03-15-13 04:12 AM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharp Snake View Post
    The way Federer is playing, Nadal would beat him on concrete, grass, sand, water, hard, carpet, anything.
    Hhhhhh , You are right !!! Iam praying because my internet connection lost before I place my bet , and my connection just got back !!! Thanks God
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  6. 03-15-13 05:00 AM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharp Snake View Post
    Yeah that Federer sure is a choke artist. Always gives up in the biggest moments.


    Quote Originally Posted by bigdrov1x View Post
    Tennis channel guys are blowing Fed right now, but I think Nadal may have the tactical advantage in this match. Heavy topspin to Feds backhand will be the determining factor in this match. It will probably be the factor in every match that they ever play again.
    Tennis channel guys blow in general, and each other in particular.

    They have no idea of the meaning of an "upset" either. They've probably never heard of market odds...

    Quote Originally Posted by ohumad View Post
    "INDIAN WELLS is played on a slow, sand based hard court. The extra sand mix chews the ball up
    and slows things down quite dramatically. However, it's usually quite low humidity, which means the
    balls [Penn ATP] tend to travel through the air much quicker. The venue is also open to the wind and
    extreme desert heat."
    In the evening this effect is diminished because it's colder so the ball travels slower/bounces less.

    I'm not sure what all the history is about the resurfacing but there was an interview last year where Fed says IW favours Nadal.
    Source please.
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  7. 03-15-13 05:01 AM #42
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    Was there something wrong with Federer physically?

    MIND = BLOWN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcoar View Post
    Was there something wrong with Federer physically?

    MIND = BLOWN
    playing worse than possible !!!!
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  9. 03-15-13 11:12 AM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcoar View Post



    Tennis channel guys blow in general, and each other in particular.

    They have no idea of the meaning of an "upset" either. They've probably never heard of market odds...


    Source please.
    I got it from this. This source doesn't cite sources itself haha.
    http://www.tennisform.com/includes/P...anWellsWTA.pdf

    More stuff but I've heard the category ratings can be flawed.
    http://www.plexipave.com/tennis/plexipave.html
    http://www.itftennis.com/technical/c...ification.aspx
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  10. 03-15-13 04:06 PM #45
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    Thanks man!
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