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    tofuman
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    with the baseball season coming up where should us ex-matchbookers go?

    [assuming US resident]
    with the baseball season coming up where should us ex-matchbookers go for the best lines?
    playing at places like thegreek, betjam, Legends, etc is just throwing money away.

    betmaker the new replacement exchange?
    anyone received payment from them yet?

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    5dimes is the obvious choice if you can't access Pinny, then Betonline. YouWager had some decent lines as well last season.

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    Canada, or Mexico

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtneer1212 View Post
    5dimes is the obvious choice if you can't access Pinny, then Betonline. YouWager had some decent lines as well last season.
    5dimes is for losers, not long term winners. have you seen the posts on here about trying to get paid when you actually win? the only people satisfied playing there thinking they are getting a discount are those who lose money long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    Canada, or Mexico
    or UK right? they got pinny.
    however just moving there won't do the trick, you need to become a citizen right?
    or is just an address in the UK good enough for pinny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tofuman View Post
    or UK right? they got pinny.
    however just moving there won't do the trick, you need to become a citizen right?
    or is just an address in the UK good enough for pinny?

    just the address mate,you dont need to be a citizen

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    Quote Originally Posted by tofuman View Post
    5dimes is for losers, not long term winners. have you seen the posts on here about trying to get paid when you actually win? the only people satisfied playing there thinking they are getting a discount are those who lose money long term.
    5D will still always pay. They will just limit you to death, or disable your account. And that's after Tony rips you a new a-hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    Canada, or Mexico



    Quote Originally Posted by tofuman View Post

    5dimes is for losers, not long term winners. have you seen the posts on here about trying to get paid when you actually win? the only people satisfied playing there thinking they are getting a discount are those who lose money long term.
    just wondering, what does '' x book is for losers, not long term winners'' mean? how can you detect this? already %95 of bettors lose in long-term. (book doesn't matter) if pinnacle is winner bettors place where would be banktupt or if matchbook winner bettor place who lose there?
    A lot of bettors prefer 5dimes beacuse they have nice props...

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    Betmaker, only choice now for US citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gangeriver View Post





    just wondering, what does '' x book is for losers, not long term winners'' mean? how can you detect this? already %95 of bettors lose in long-term. (book doesn't matter) if pinnacle is winner bettors place where would be banktupt or if matchbook winner bettor place who lose there?
    A lot of bettors prefer 5dimes beacuse they have nice props...

    book DOES matter
    because at many books you just can't get good enough odds for decent sized stakes
    margins in this caper are very thin and unless you are getting the cream of the odds you are up against it
    you can't afford to be betting -110 lines if you are expecting to win

    5D would have a much lower %age of long term winners than would Pinnacle, Matchbook and Betfair

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    Quote Originally Posted by gangeriver View Post
    just wondering, what does '' x book is for losers, not long term winners'' mean? how can you detect this? already %95 of bettors lose in long-term. (book doesn't matter) if pinnacle is winner bettors place where would be banktupt or if matchbook winner bettor place who lose there?
    A lot of bettors prefer 5dimes beacuse they have nice props...
    What he is referring to is that 5Dimes (like 95% of sportsbooks) is quick to limit you to peanuts if they believe you to be sharp. Your point is a good one, though; most players aren't going to be profitable even at the lowest juice outs.

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    I don't think 5D object to 'sharp', rather steam followers. If you're originating (and maybe communicate that fact) they're happy enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post


    book DOES matter
    because at many books you just can't get good enough odds for decent sized stakes
    margins in this caper are very thin and unless you are getting the cream of the odds you are up against it
    you can't afford to be betting -110 lines if you are expecting to win

    5D would have a much lower %age of long term winners than would Pinnacle, Matchbook and Betfair
    I have mentioned ''book'' Betfair anf MB are exchange
    yes maybe book does matter, but between %90-98 because most of bettors take parlays, buy points (especially americans) and most of bettors take only chalk favs. and home teams. pinnacle clients, sbobet clients , 5dimes clients or bet365 clients it doesn't matter. I think there are lots of factors about become a winner or loser.
    I take profitable props bets in 5dimes however pinny doesn't offer.
    I think a clever bettor should has a few book accounts and he should choose the best line while taking a bet.

    Quote Originally Posted by jgilmartin View Post
    What he is referring to is that 5Dimes (like 95% of sportsbooks) is quick to limit you to peanuts if they believe you to be sharp. Your point is a good one, though; most players aren't going to be profitable even at the lowest juice outs.
    definitely juice is so important

    %51,3 breakeven with -105
    %52,5 breakeven with -110
    %53,5 breakeven with -115
    my point is; there are different type of bets and different leagues, everything is not US sports moneylines and full time totals. quarter bets,prop bets,player bets. (I hate player bets) , different leagues
    europan basketball is by biggest market and most of books offer 30 cent lines.I mean, if you find pros line you make money.

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    Betonline
    BetJam
    BetPhoenix
    Heritage
    JustBet
    BoDog

    Amongst others...for me at least

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    5Dimes and Betjam will be just fine for bases, but will miss matchbook

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    Quote Originally Posted by gangeriver View Post
    definitely juice is so important

    %51,3 breakeven with -105
    %52,5 breakeven with -110
    %53,5 breakeven with -115
    my point is; there are different type of bets and different leagues, everything is not US sports moneylines and full time totals. quarter bets,prop bets,player bets. (I hate player bets) , different leagues
    europan basketball is by biggest market and most of books offer 30 cent lines.I mean, if you find pros line you make money.
    No shit.

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    Betjam is fine, last season they had some weak lines on dogs vs. teams the squares like.
    Think the dimeline goes up to around -190.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgilmartin View Post
    No shit.
    wake up and look at the complete picture. USa is not world

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    Quote Originally Posted by gangeriver View Post
    wake up and look at the complete picture. USa is not world
    Clearly neither of us understands what the other is saying. No hard feelings.

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    Betmaker - should be similar to matchbook as long as plenty of people join!

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    Bet Jamaica has always been the best outside of Matchbook over the years.... Can't see anything changing this year, though there were rumors that Greek might offer a dime lime for MLB this year.

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    can someone please explain the theory of the dimeline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq764 View Post
    can someone please explain the theory of the dimeline?
    -105/-105 instead of -110/-110

    +105/-115 instead of +100/-120 ...etc

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    aRen't 5dimes lines better tahn betjamaica?

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    5dimes is the best overall for bases with their overnight lines, betjam 2nd, matchbook will definitely be missed for game day bets

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    Gotta be Betonline or 5Dimes.

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    5Dimes overnight lines

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    I am guessing 5Dimes????

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    betmaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kindred View Post
    betmaker
    Why? Let them prove themselves first. BM management (as good as their rep is) may decide they don't really want to run an exchange.

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    SBR compares baseball site nicely here: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Best+MLB+lines/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    Canada, or Mexico
    the u.k is the best option ,not only is it totally legal, it is also tax free, but americans still have to pay tax on world income, in canada the legality is a grey area and the taxation is all complex

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArunSh View Post
    Betmaker - should be similar to matchbook as long as plenty of people join!

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    Rebatewager will be coming out with one but no idea when.

    The other books mentioned here all good

    One poster made a comment about just giving non USA address to join Pinnacle

    There is way more to it than that including proof of all documents that go to a verification process

    Funding again has to be non USA banks , etc

    Finally cannot log on with USA ip address

    It's a lot of work

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