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    Why is betonline at B+?

    What issue/s are holding them back from A status? They have *** as deposit. Do they slow pay? I have no idea why B+ rating. Please enlighten me

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    B+ is a very high rating. A is reserved for the best of the best who have proved themselves over a long period of time.

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    I think the only reason they are B+ is because they advertise here. C shop for me.

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    so would you consider betonline to be betphoenix's equal or are all B+ rated books not the same?

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    Betonline is a lot better then BetPhoenix

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    BO is better than BP IMO. I've played at both and if I HAD to go back to one it would be BO but it will never happen.

    A B book that is an advertiser here might be a C shop to me. A B book that doesn't advertise might be an A book. As long as SBR is accepting advertising dollars from these books they will be unable to give an unbiased review of the operation.

    SBR does not equal consumer reports of the online sportsbook word.

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    Slow payouts just like BP but will not limit winning players quite as quickly.

    BP offers reduced juice which is a huge incentive compared to BOL who does not offer reduced juice to new players nor do they offer any type of player incentive aside from little promos such as the "wilt effect" which offer the player little to no value.

    BP has a much lower hold % on big ML's.

    If I had to choose one I would rather play at BP but in my opinion neither book offers any reason to be a B and only receive these ratings because they pay to be sponsors at SBR. 2-3 weeks for check withdrawals from these 2 books is absurd compared to the timeframe many other books deliver in.

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    I ask this all of the time--why isn't BetOnline an A book, esp now with software issues behind us?

    We pay *** and Moneybookers and usually ** and ** in less than a day. And we ALWAYS pay.

    We also have higher limits than most other books.. who else is offering 10k on NBA spreads and 5k on totals? Who else runs totals for EVERY college bk game (only A books if at all)? Who else does a dime line out to 200 for MLB? Who else (for ALL players incl US) gives game day Champions League MoneyLine, Spread and Total limits at $2500? Hell we still even have open parlay spots for seven days.

    Who else has concession bets (Wilt effect, Nil nil, What the Puck, Shutout Bailout, Halftime Surrender, etc)?

    Who else bonuses up to $900 on deposits?

    We're best for bonuses, best for MLB (hands down for prices/limits combo), most deposit options (can even take money orders), have a choice for user interfaces, been in business forever and always pay.

    Fishhead puts us ahead of Bodog (probably in part 'cause we do book to book, they don't); we're doing everything we can to get to an A.

    Short of moving to Costa Rica

    Alex
    Last edited by BetOnline; 02-17-11 at 03:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetOnline View Post
    Who else runs totals for EVERY college bk game (only A books if at all)?
    You're an A as far as I'm concerned, but you definitely don't do this. There were at least 6-7 games last night that CRIS was offering totals on that you weren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpcat View Post
    Slow payouts just like BP
    BOL pays out much, much, much faster than BP in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetOnline View Post
    I ask this all of the time--why isn't BetOnline an A book, esp now with software issues behind us?

    We pay *** and Moneybookers and usually ** and ** in less than a day. And we ALWAYS pay.

    We also have higher limits than most other books.. who else is offering 10k on NBA spreads and 5k on totals? Who else runs totals for EVERY college bk game (only A books if at all)? Who else does a dime line out to 200 for MLB? Who else (for ALL players incl US) gives game day Champions League MoneyLine, Spread and Total limits at $2500? Hell we still even have open parlay spots for seven days.

    Who else has concession bets (Wilt effect, Nil nil, What the Puck, Shutout Bailout, Halftime Surrender, etc)?

    Who else bonuses up to $900 on deposits?

    We're best for bonuses, best for MLB (hands down for prices/limits combo), most deposit options (can even take money orders), have a choice for user interfaces, been in business forever and always pay.

    Fishhead puts us ahead of Bodog (probably in part 'cause we do book to book, they don't); we're doing everything we can to get to an A.

    Short of moving to Costa Rica

    Alex
    How about the College of Charleston @ the Citadel game????
    Bookmaker: -450/+370 3%
    the Greek: -500/+400 Books hold 3.23%
    Betonline: -500/+350 Books hold 5.26%
    5dimes: -500/+435 Books hold 1.98%

    You guys are raping players!!!!!

    Why not inform the players about loyalty points being cancelled until 2 weeks after canceling the program?

    Why did it take you guys 12 business days to FEDEX me a check 2 weeks ago?

    Honestly you think you should be an A book when you can not deliver payouts in a timely fashion and all you offer players is dimelines in bases (which just about everybody offers) and higher betting limits?

    What is the point of high betting limits if you guys have reportedly been limiting winning players accounts?

    Is it not true that you guys have ties to disgraced book BetOnSports who stole players funds and ran? Do you think this makes you guys a trustworthy book for high limit players to leave a large balance with?

    Don't get me wrong several months ago I thought you guys were on course to being an A book but you guys have drastically veered off course over the last 3-4 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForgetWallStreet View Post
    You're an A as far as I'm concerned, but you definitely don't do this. There were at least 6-7 games last night that CRIS was offering totals on that you weren't.
    This is one reason you're not an A.Get totals on all the games & then get back to us

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    I went back to betonline today, after a two month hiatus. And I find that all my loyalty points have been wiped out. I understand that betonline can finish the program, but the points already earned should be valid. They did not send any notification, I get their weekly newsletter and not a mention. Not a big deal, but I am not happy with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetOnline View Post
    I ask this all of the time--why isn't BetOnline an A book, esp now with software issues behind us?

    We pay *** and Moneybookers and usually ** and ** in less than a day. And we ALWAYS pay.

    We also have higher limits than most other books.. who else is offering 10k on NBA spreads and 5k on totals? Who else runs totals for EVERY college bk game (only A books if at all)? Who else does a dime line out to 200 for MLB? Who else (for ALL players incl US) gives game day Champions League MoneyLine, Spread and Total limits at $2500? Hell we still even have open parlay spots for seven days.

    Who else has concession bets (Wilt effect, Nil nil, What the Puck, Shutout Bailout, Halftime Surrender, etc)?

    Who else bonuses up to $900 on deposits?

    We're best for bonuses, best for MLB (hands down for prices/limits combo), most deposit options (can even take money orders), have a choice for user interfaces, been in business forever and always pay.

    Fishhead puts us ahead of Bodog (probably in part 'cause we do book to book, they don't); we're doing everything we can to get to an A.

    Short of moving to Costa Rica

    Alex


    You have a $500 a week payout limit at *** (even though you can deposit 20k a day via this method). This needs to be at least 10x higher, preferably 20x. Sporstbook.com (d-) has no wd limit via this method. Carib allows 5k per day.

    You have not once offered all NCAAB totals, only this week did you start offering all but the added games.

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    Was a loyal customer at betonline.com for years (mostly horses) then was locked out of racebook without reason. Learned later is was some D-bag Pete Mitchell didn't like me for some reason. D rated book in my opinion.

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    I like Betonline, but I agree the juice they charge on Moneylines is not competitive.

    One positive that should be mentioned is that BOL will transfer with other books, unlike BP. And if you are a good customer they will bring you down to Panama and show you a good time.

    BAUS

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    Betonline was good to me, but never got chance to cashout

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    i like betonline but claiming the software issues as being solved is a joke LOL

    this software sucks (sorry but it is worse than 90% of books I know of)

    -stash

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    [quote=sharpcat;8864331]How about the College of Charleston @ the Citadel game????
    Bookmaker: -450/+370 3%
    the Greek: -500/+400 Books hold 3.23%
    Betonline: -500/+350 Books hold 5.26%
    5dimes: -500/+435 Books hold 1.98%

    A bit off topic, but how do you calculate a book's hold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    i like betonline but claiming the software issues as being solved is a joke LOL

    this software sucks (sorry but it is worse than 90% of books I know of)

    -stash
    Is it better or worse than the greeks software in your opinion....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetOnline View Post
    I ask this all of the time--why isn't BetOnline an A book, esp now with software issues behind us?

    We pay *** and Moneybookers and usually ** and ** in less than a day. And we ALWAYS pay.

    We also have higher limits than most other books.. who else is offering 10k on NBA spreads and 5k on totals? Who else runs totals for EVERY college bk game (only A books if at all)? Who else does a dime line out to 200 for MLB? Who else (for ALL players incl US) gives game day Champions League MoneyLine, Spread and Total limits at $2500? Hell we still even have open parlay spots for seven days.

    Who else has concession bets (Wilt effect, Nil nil, What the Puck, Shutout Bailout, Halftime Surrender, etc)?

    Who else bonuses up to $900 on deposits?

    We're best for bonuses, best for MLB (hands down for prices/limits combo), most deposit options (can even take money orders), have a choice for user interfaces, been in business forever and always pay.

    Fishhead puts us ahead of Bodog (probably in part 'cause we do book to book, they don't); we're doing everything we can to get to an A.

    Short of moving to Costa Rica

    Alex
    If you get the software issues fixed and do FED EX check payouts 1-3 day time frame def A book in my opinion. Everything else is A+....One example of software issues I can not see the lines of bets that I have pending...FRUSTRATING!!!

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    Made first deposit there today. Asked to the legends 100 % cash bonus per their better bonus guarantee. 100 extra is 100 extra.....needed another book for baseball upcoming

    thx for all your input

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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty maron View Post
    Is it better or worse than the greeks software in your opinion....
    Greeks software is among the best, who cares if it is stone old?
    It never times out or loads slow, and the site is always up. They also highlight new lines/changes...if every software would be like that, that'd be awesome.

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    tried betonline....its not for me....im just going to mega load on greek and stay there. F trying anything else

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    I am so sick of Marshal Miller or whoever the **** it is that keeps emailing me this garbage spam about their casino. A+ books DO NOT email their clients SPAM. Hell, it is a rarity to get an email from BETJM, Greek, 5Dimes or most any other book unless I email them first. I went in to live chat last week asked to be taken off the email list and phone list and I have unsubscribed every email they have sent to no avail.

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    I believe BetOnline is due for an upgrade to A-......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PD77 View Post
    I am so sick of Marshal Miller or whoever the **** it is that keeps emailing me this garbage spam about their casino. A+ books DO NOT email their clients SPAM. Hell, it is a rarity to get an email from BETJM, Greek, 5Dimes or most any other book unless I email them first. I went in to live chat last week asked to be taken off the email list and phone list and I have unsubscribed every email they have sent to no avail.
    Never gotten spam from greek or 5 dimes.

    Marshall actually helped me with an issue I had. He responded very quickly to my emails...pretty pleased in response time

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    Quote Originally Posted by PD77 View Post
    I am so sick of Marshal Miller or whoever the **** it is that keeps emailing me this garbage spam about their casino. A+ books DO NOT email their clients SPAM. Hell, it is a rarity to get an email from BETJM, Greek, 5Dimes or most any other book unless I email them first. I went in to live chat last week asked to be taken off the email list and phone list and I have unsubscribed every email they have sent to no avail.
    You should play at bookmaker.

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    Well it was fun but I prefer 5dimes or the Greek. No redeposit for me here. my interest in this thread and the site is closed

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    I had no idea they offered dimelines. I may have to check them out

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    Quote Originally Posted by dark star View Post
    This is one reason you're not an A.Get totals on all the games & then get back to us
    We ARE running college totals on all games EXCEPT added and extra unless they are televised.
    Ping me if you see one missing--don't expect to.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    You have a $500 a week payout limit at *** (even though you can deposit 20k a day via this method). This needs to be at least 10x higher, preferably 20x. Sporstbook.com (d-) has no wd limit via this method. Carib allows 5k per day.

    You have not once offered all NCAAB totals, only this week did you start offering all but the added games.
    This, plus, check payouts need to be quicker than 10 business days. But consider me a big fan otherwise..........especially of your customer service, its light years ahead of everyone else imo.....polite CS that actually knows what the fk they are talking about and can actually handle issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peeig View Post
    This, plus, check payouts need to be quicker than 10 business days. But consider me a big fan otherwise..........especially of your customer service, its light years ahead of everyone else imo.....polite CS that actually knows what the fk they are talking about and can actually handle issues.
    checks at 10 business days is way too long when it should really be 2-4 business days. in that regards betonline seems to be acting more like the betphoenix group than the greek/jamaica group.

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    I've only had a positive experience with them. Good lines, fast replies on issues, bonuses, etc. The only thing that bothers me is their high fees on withdrawals, but that's not something to prevent them from an A status.

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    all my points have vanished

    I gave these guys alot of action, and made several large (losing) deposits along the way. I worked my way up and had a point balance of 183,531 which was all wiped out. I was aiming for 200,000 points so that I could get a $1000 freeplay. Without warning they terminate the program and take my points down with it.

    "A" books would never do this.

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